Ban on Gun Ownership?

Will E Worm

Conspiracy...
The Supreme Court said Tuesday it will decide whether the District of Columbia can ban handguns, a case that could produce the most in-depth examination of the constitutional right to "keep and bear arms" in nearly 70 years.

The justices' decision to hear the case could make the divisive debate over guns an issue in the 2008 presidential and congressional elections.

City officials said the law is designed to reduce gun violence, noting that four out of every five homicides this year was committed with a gun. Opponents of the ban pointed to the level of violence to make their case that Washington residents should be allowed to have guns to protect themselves in their homes.


http://apnews.myway.com/article/20071121/D8T1OEUO0.html

Another freedom taken away? :rolleyes:
 

Facetious

Moderated
I haven't kept up on all the technical legislation recently, but I thought that handguns were already banned in The District of Criminals. :dunno:

'nuff of judicial fiat ! ~

All the best ~
 
The question is really about whether the 2nd Amendment was about the need for a militia to guarantee the security of the nation or about the rights of the individual to own guns.
The wording of the Amendment itself suggests to me that it was the former.Usually legal opinion goes on the principle that what somebody writes down on a document is the definitive meaning rather than any interpretation.
And "the right to bear arms" didn't mean the same thing before 1800 as it does now.
 
Fingers crossed, but I'm really skeptical. I'm sure they realize how much hinges on this decision. This could pave the road for more bans or the striking down of a lot of pointless laws. This is one of those things where I'll watch with my hands over my eyes... probably more intense than a Hitchcock movie.
 

L3ggy

Special Operations FOX-HOUND
Is tha bannation of Gun ownership a bad thing? :confused:
 

Legzman

what the fuck you lookin at?
it'll never pass
 

Phaeton

Banned
What kind of compensation would the US Gov. give to the owners of the guns this legislation would make illegal?

There must be thousands of people who have thousands of dollars invested in their collections.

I am against firearms of all sorts but it would cost trillions to buy back and destroy all the contraband, and in the end a savant with a home made .22 could rob 20 banks.

Good idea, poor, poor execution.
 

ChefChiTown

The secret ingredient? MY BALLS
There must be thousands of people who have thousands of dollars invested in their collections.

That's a really good point. That's exactly why banning guns is stupid. Not everyone owns a gun so they can shoot it. Some people cherish the "collection" aspect and they're going to get fucked if this bill passes (which I don't think it will).
 
If This Stupid Law Pass's, The Government Won't Compensate The Gun Owners. Not A Penny!! You'll Have A Date To Turn Them In, Or You'll Most Likely Be Convicted Of A New Felony. Some Say Gun Control Works??? Ask The People Of China, Japan, Russia, Germany, How Good It's Worked For Them!!!! And I Know There's Others! As I Said In Another Thread About This, My Opinion Is If This Pass's And They Make The Law For ALL America, We Will Have A War Right Here Over It!! :glugglug:
 

Facetious

Moderated
Why TF would ANYBODY advocate the loss of Second Amendment Rights in an increasingly domineering political atmosphere ? ! WHY ? . . .Demikan or Republikrat ?

Me thinks that you needs to study your history !
 

Facetious

Moderated
The disarming of a populace has always been followed up with a tyrannical form of govt.
You anti's must sure like your bondage fettish !
 
The disarming of a populace has always been followed up with a tyrannical form of govt.
You anti's must sure like your bondage fettish !

The problem is, as a thinking, sane, rational tax payer, it is incomprehensible that my rights and freedoms are even considered to be restricted by some stupid two dimensional politician that wants to blame the woes of a fucked up cultural system in the US on guns, particularly handguns.

Why is Chuck Schumer, or Hillary or Rudy or Diane Fienstein thought to have a viewpoint that is more important than mine? They really have no clue or perception to what the heck they are doing. Their distorted little brains come up with a ban on guns as their problem of solving the internal problems of the US.

Absolute stupidity. I am so tired of the line, arsenal, as in the report of the kid with 30 BB guns recently or total misuse of the term "assault rifle", (already illegal in the US), as meaning anything that remotely represents a fully automatic military rifle.

It is basic common sense to understand that responsible people who are engaged in sport that Chuck, Hillary, Rudy, and Diane don't approve of, are not evil, mentally ill, or deviants of any sort.

I am personally against politicians that spend huge amounts of taxpayer dollars on wasteful lunches, dinners, and other expenses that normal people don't enjoy, and think a citizens review of their actions are necessary to make sure tax dollars aren't wasted crap we don't pay for.

Is something out of balance here?
 
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Phaeton

Banned
If firearm owners are not willing to give up their weapons, then don't expect Iran to give up their nukes.

Taking away ownership; be it land or otherwise, is what breeds terrorists.
 

Facetious

Moderated
AFA said:
I am so tired of the line, arsenal, as in the report of the kid with 30 BB guns recently or total misuse of the term "assault rifle", (already illegal in the US), as meaning anything that remotely represents a fully automatic military rifle.

Assault weapon | Cop killer bullets | Junk guns | Plastic guns | Pocket rocket | Saturday night Special and
MORE !!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.boomershoot.org/general/ScaryWords.htm
:hammer:
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:1orglaugh
 
Assault weapon | Cop killer bullets | Junk guns | Plastic guns | Pocket rocket | Saturday night Special and
MORE !!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.boomershoot.org/general/ScaryWords.htm
:hammer:
:eek:



:1orglaugh

I like this one:
Junk guns.
Used in reference to inexpensive handguns, “junk guns” is not only a deceptive term, it is also elitist. Affordable guns are an accessible means of self-defense for those with low incomes, especially people who live in poor, unsafe neighborhoods. Please note that politicians commonly talk about banning “junk guns” yet they themselves are typically afforded the luxury of armed guards. Again, it is elitist. See also “Saturday Night Special”.

They wanna disarm us? I say they can go first. :)
 
I think some of you are only reading the title of this discussion and not the article. There is no all encompassing gun ban legislation being discussed here. This is about a supreme court case against DC as to whether a ban on handguns that is already in effect is actually unconstitutional. If the supreme court finally breaks down the amendment as meant for individual ownership vice state militia, then it will open a lot of doors for other pointless laws to be challenged.

Personally I would love to see the ban on machine guns lifted... not the restrictions on purchase, although the $200 tax stamp and the few months it can take to process the paperwork, but the ban on manufacturing new machine guns. IMHO this would create a HUGE market for gun owners who have been getting ass raped on prices of "pre-ban" machine guns.

I'm totally cool with a background check and waiting period. I don't see this as an infringement because, in the end, I will have the gun. It's really the only way to keep guns out of the hands of criminals. I would even welcome the implementation of this system on all guns (rifles, shotguns, etc) as a trade off for some other laws being dropped.
 
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