Automotive things going-on

[georges]

The key to EV sale on a major percentage is creating the electric infrastructure first. And that will really cost, so some president has to have the balls to lean into that topic first.

In some countries, EV are more costly to maintain than a gasoline vehicle and computerized vehicles doesn't age too well and aren't more performant than gasoline vehicles. A friend of mine who work at a Mercedes Benz dealership told me that the electric vehicle sales weren't that big. I don't think that everybody is keen on electric vehicle and not they aren't more environmentally friendly than a gasoline car since you can't recycle their batteries and their autonomy fall short when compared to a gasoline one. Quality of build is another topic that was discussed with him, the golden era from Mercedes Benz is long long gone same with Audi and BMW where in the mid 90's until early 00's, they were at the highest level. Repairability is another factor when you buy a car, not everybody is ok to spend money on a car that you can hardly repair. You can hardly repair the body frame of an electric car and it isn't made as robust as the cars of the 1980's or the 1990's.

 

[Supafly]

You're right. That is why Hbrid-driven cars could gap the bridge well, having small engines that provide the electricity or give the extra push when needed.

 

[Pornfan99]

Ooooweeee!! 1965 Shelby Daytona replica!

The listing, for $62,500:

https://autos.yahoo.com/scoop-1965-shelby-daytona-sale-193000120.html

Although .. I don't WTF the .. hobbyist was thinking, putting a 6.2LTR GM V8 in a Shelby product..

 

[tvstrip]

In some countries, EV are more costly to maintain than a gasoline vehicle and computerized vehicles doesn't age too well and aren't more performant than gasoline vehicles.

I thought that in all countries EV's are always more expensive to maintain/repair than ICE cars. It would make sense, since you literally have over a century of technology and refinement, along with an abundance of technicians and repair shops which also would drive down the price.

After all, if EVs were cheaper, then almost everyone would be driving one today.

 

[Pornfan99]

Ahhhh - the good old days! This one-minute Pontiac Trans Am (!) ad was on my YT start page. Great camera work on the car. (The brunette is nice, too!)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUz5VZ1yUZQ

 

[georges]

I thought that in all countries EV's are always more expensive to maintain/repair than ICE cars. It would make sense, since you literally have over a century of technology and refinement, along with an abundance of technicians and repair shops which also would drive down the price.

After all, if EVs were cheaper, then almost everyone would be driving one today.

But fact is that very few people are, EV are a money pit, irrepairable and performance wise poor performing vehicles.

 

[Pornfan99]

"EV are .. performance wise poor performing vehicles."

Uh .. are you sure about that?? Check out the Lucid Air's 0-60MPH time! And, the GM Hummer has a crazy-fast 0-60MPH time for weighing THREE TONS.

 

[tvstrip]

I have a subcompact ICE, and I drove over 425km roundtrip to visit friends this Xmas. I still had 1/4 of a tank left when I got back home. From my understanding, the standard EV wouldn't be able to make that trip. And to physically fill up the gas tank from empty, takes maybe 5 minutes, tops. I think it takes 30 min to charge an EV?

I imagine the inconvenience of these frequent fillups is going to be a source of complaints.
And while people in houses can just charge the car overnight, those living in condos/apartments are not likely going to have their personal charging stations. I'd have to check, but the more frequent charging has to also eat into any "savings" you get over a gas fillup.

I'd say EVs have a long way to go to win over ICE drivers. No way people are going to changeover unless the law forces them to.

 

[georges]

"EV are .. performance wise poor performing vehicles."

Uh .. are you sure about that?? Check out the Lucid Air's 0-60MPH time! And, the GM Hummer has a crazy-fast 0-60MPH time for weighing THREE TONS.

You can't travel 600km with an EV and you don't have torque unlike a big block v8 or unlike unlike an Audi A8W12 or a Mercedes V8 or V12 or a BMW V12. Eletronic auto gearboxes are rarely good, exception made of the tiptronic or the gearbox found in the cadillac seville sts made from 1997 till 2003. And if you are not into electronic gearbox, then then the torqueflite A727B, the ford C6 and the Turbohydramatic TH 400 are the most bulletproof automatic transmissions ever made. For manual transmissions, the Mopar A833 , the Ford Toploader and the Muncie M22 Rockcrusher are the ones to consider if you are into bick block V8 engines applications. For a sports car, the ZF 6speed or the Richmond 5 speed is enough.

 

[tvstrip]

Do Tonneau Covers Improve A Truck's Gas Mileage?​

https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/new...-gas-mileage/ar-AA1wKTLU?ocid=nl_article_link

This was interesting. I thought the difference would have been much more significant.

 

[Mr. Daystar]

Do Tonneau Covers Improve A Truck's Gas Mileage?​

https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/new...-gas-mileage/ar-AA1wKTLU?ocid=nl_article_link

This was interesting. I thought the difference would have been much more significant.

I saw the same question asked of the "Mythbusters" show. Without reading the article first, I wanna guess.

The said that with a closed tailgate, and no cover, the aerodynamics don't change much, because when traveling, the air sort of forms a rotating mass in the bed, so as you drive air flows over the cab, and then over the mass in the bed, which allows the air to flow efficiently over it, end beyond the truck itself.

Am I close?

 

[tvstrip]

I saw the same question asked of the "Mythbusters" show. Without reading the article first, I wanna guess.

The said that with a closed tailgate, and no cover, the aerodynamics don't change much, because when traveling, the air sort of forms a rotating mass in the bed, so as you drive air flows over the cab, and then over the mass in the bed, which allows the air to flow efficiently over it, end beyond the truck itself.

Am I close?

The article basically just goes into the results. The mythbusters go into more detail as to why they results were what they were. I think the science behind it would be too much for an msn article.

 

[Mr. Daystar]

The article basically just goes into the results. The mythbusters go into more detail as to why they results were what they were. I think the science behind it would be too much for an msn article.

After reading the article, I see what you mean. I also remembered it wasn't about an open bed or cover, but about tail gate up or down, when at hi-way speeds. Mythbusters said that at hi-way speeds a swirling vortex occurs in the bed, from, and air flows over the cab, and across the swirling vortex, flowing past the gate. Now at slower, or city speeds it isn't going to make much of a difference, because you don't need aerodynamics at 25mph, and it's a truck. They also did one about windows open, versus air conditioning affecting miles per gallon. Even without the hot little red head, Kari Byron, it was a pretty informative show.