Are You A Hawk Or A Dove?

Are You A Hawk Or A Dove?


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A dove is someone who opposes the use of military pressure to resolve a dispute; a hawk favors entry into war. Which are you?
 
I would say a little of both. I would prefer disputes to be handled without violence but I also recognize that in some disputes, violence is inevitable.
 

Mayhem

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Diplomacy should always be exercised vigorously. But you should always know when further diplomacy is pointless and be ready to knock the other guy in the teeth.
 

Rattrap

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With a few exceptions, 'military pressure' has almost always been about sending men to die to line some rich folks' pockets. The military industrial complex is one hell of a money-making machine, and all it needs is fresh meat and an insane (at least in the US) portion of our taxes to keep it going.
 

bobjustbob

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Diplomacy should always be exercised vigorously. But you should always know when further diplomacy is pointless and be ready to knock the other guy in the teeth.

Agree 100%. If those guys think we won't bring in the forces then they we are at their mercy. Gotta flex your muscles sometimes.
 

georges

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a little bit of both
 
At first, I will always be in favor of a peaceful solution. But if it fails, if the other country don't wanna negociate, then you gotta make them pay the price of their lack of cooperation.
 

PlasmaTwa2

The Second-Hottest Man in my Mother's Basement
:sing: I'm a little bit country, I'm a little bit rock and roll...
 

vodkazvictim

Why save the world, when you can rule it?
It depends.
Sometimes the use of military force will only excacerbate a situation.
Other times a peaceful solution is impossible.

I'd say that we should prefer a peaceful solution where possible, but a peaceful solution is often only possible because the enemy knows that you can effect a military solution if necessary.

With a few exceptions, 'military pressure' has almost always been about sending men to die to line some rich folks' pockets. The military industrial complex is one hell of a money-making machine, and all it needs is fresh meat and an insane (at least in the US) portion of our taxes to keep it going.
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a little bit of both
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With a few exceptions, 'military pressure' has almost always been about sending men to die to line some rich folks' pockets. The military industrial complex is one hell of a money-making machine, and all it needs is fresh meat and an insane (at least in the US) portion of our taxes to keep it going.


I would add that historically Empires can't seem to go more than a generation (~25 years) without going to war with someone, usually another Empire.

During the Vietnam War era I remember a History or Poli-Sci Professor (Wish I could remember his name or book title) doing the TV rounds talking about a book he wrote on history of war. He said "Of the ~2000 wars that they have good records on, about half started by accident! Usually with tough talk or saber rattling meant to avoid war!
 
A dove is someone who opposes the use of military pressure to resolve a dispute; a hawk favors entry into war. Which are you?

The way you have it defined, we can choose between being a limp wristed hippie peace-nick, or a war mongering, bloodthirsty fool who doesn't care about the facts, and instead, just wants an excuse to go to war. Can't there be anything in between?

If I had to define myself, I would say I'm a dove - but a very strong one. I don't want to go to war until the last resort. At the same time, I believe in making sure all my enemies and potential enemies all know that I am more than capable of opening up a huge can of whoop ass on them if they push me too far.
 
I'm a peacock, captain! You gotta let me fly!

Diplomacy should always be exercised vigorously. But you should always know when further diplomacy is pointless and be ready to knock the other guy in the teeth.

This, 100%. Maintain peace through diplomacy as much as possible, but be prepared to act if shit goes straight to hell.
 

Rey C.

Racing is life... anything else is just waiting.
Neither and both. It depends on the situation. If diplomacy has a chance, I say use that until it has no chance of working. But if the republic's safety and security are truly at risk (not some make believe bullshit like what the neocons gave us with Iraq), then I believe in the concept of "total war" (excluding the use of nuclear weapons). It is the worst kind of war, but history has shown that it is the most effective kind of war. From Julius Caesar to William Tecumseh Sherman, "total war" has worked. And you do what works if you really need something to work - as distasteful as it may be.

IMO, the only ones who have the right idea about U.S. foreign policy, war and the aftermath of war (no nation building!!!) are libertarians (with a small "l" ;)).
 
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