Are There Any Star Trek Fans Around Here?
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I have been a big Star Trek fan for years. I have seen all episodes of TNG, DS9 and VOY. I have never watched the TOS or ENT. TOS was too old for me, it was was made long before I was born. I didn't care for ENT because it was a prequel and so is the new movie btw
. My favorite series would have to be DS9:thumbsup:
. My favorite series would have to be DS9:thumbsup:
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Captain's looog...star date 4...6...NEEERD. I've wandered into...what seems to beee...a nerd occupied...thread. There are...geeks...and dorks all oveeer. They're talking about things...that I don't...understaaand. Their language is...unknown to meeee. Photons...Wooorf...Data...what are...these things?
It also appears as though I'm experiencing difficultieees...with my...speech. It's as though I'm being forced to talk like...William...Shatneeer...and I can't...help it. I'm frequently pausing without...wanting tooo...and the end of all my sentenceees...have a weird inflection that makes me seem...like a neeerd. Must...get...ooout. Can't...feel...cool...in...heeere. Fading...losing...no...nooo...
:falls to knees in defeat:
:waves arms and looks to sky in anger:
KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!!!
It also appears as though I'm experiencing difficultieees...with my...speech. It's as though I'm being forced to talk like...William...Shatneeer...and I can't...help it. I'm frequently pausing without...wanting tooo...and the end of all my sentenceees...have a weird inflection that makes me seem...like a neeerd. Must...get...ooout. Can't...feel...cool...in...heeere. Fading...losing...no...nooo...
:falls to knees in defeat:
:waves arms and looks to sky in anger:
KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!!! Trek is dead. Lord knows I have been a fan for going on 20 years. But the formula was sourred when enterprise came along. It has long been recognised the fans of trek dont care about what happened, they want to see whats going to happen, always going forward!
This new movie is the last nail in the coffin and the last insult to genes legacy. Even if it werent for the presence of simon pegg, a man who by all means my contempt and loathing extends so far as that I would not piss on him if her were on fire, moreso i would be holding the tank of kerosene and playfully toying with a lighter!
I have friends who expect me to go see this movie with them, they will have to go alone, I wont watch it, I wont and you cant make me! I wish I had something positive to say about this but I really dont.
The next movie should have been left to the crew of DS9, by all accounts my favourite show and Captain included! I simply must ask, Rick Berman, what the fuck were you thinking?!
This new movie is the last nail in the coffin and the last insult to genes legacy. Even if it werent for the presence of simon pegg, a man who by all means my contempt and loathing extends so far as that I would not piss on him if her were on fire, moreso i would be holding the tank of kerosene and playfully toying with a lighter!
I have friends who expect me to go see this movie with them, they will have to go alone, I wont watch it, I wont and you cant make me! I wish I had something positive to say about this but I really dont.
The next movie should have been left to the crew of DS9, by all accounts my favourite show and Captain included! I simply must ask, Rick Berman, what the fuck were you thinking?!
the new movie looks awful. a great show from the 60s with actual adults as actors and great scripts from the best minds in science fiction dumbed down for the paris hilton generation with a bunch of young prettyboys and CGI
I am, but I don't plan on seeing the new movie. Fuck prequels and fuck JJ Abrams
TOS was unreal for its time, Enterprise dorked with the history ...
TOS was unreal because of the socio-political envelope it could push, one outside of "real world setting," the only way they could. They made political and racial statements in a way that could not be taken directly or censored. Especially the first interracial kiss on network, prime-time TV. About the only thing the studios got was yanking the female 1st officer (who became the nurse, and then Gene's wife in real life).
Also, no one wanted to fund TOS. Thank God for Desilu. It's a really interesting story. Even if you didn't care for TOS, you should read up on its major impact from a socio-political standpoint.
As far as Enterprise, that was writers fucking with the history. The history of the creation of the Federation was fairly well detailed. Unfortunately, they fucked it. They messed with all sorts of things. Hell, some of the latter movies did it too, like First Contact. Oh well, too much variation from the full history that was long written before.
I'm going to go see the new movie. I'm getting old, but I'm still flexible enough to see things from a new perspective. I'll look for creativity. If I get "Gen Y's version of 90210 in space" (e.g., Stormship Troopers), I'll criticize it based on that. But if they actually introduce something new, different, unique and bring it together, then I'll be entertained.
If Hollywood's remakes and sequels are any indicator, I won't like this movie. They aren't creative. They aren't original. Haven't been in a long time. They take a similar storyline and apply it to characters. It's typically unoriginal. But I'm willing to give it a chance.
TOS was unreal for its time. It wasn't just a "Sci Fi." And it wasn't just a "Sci Fi" that challenged the "Big, Scary Monsters" typical Sci Fi plots of the time (although the 2nd pilot was pushed in that direction with the "big brain people" by the networks).I have been a big Star Trek fan for years. I have seen all episodes of TNG, DS9 and VOY. I have never watched the TOS or ENT. TOS was too old for me, it was was made long before I was born. I didn't care for ENT because it was a prequel and so is the new movie btw
TOS was unreal because of the socio-political envelope it could push, one outside of "real world setting," the only way they could. They made political and racial statements in a way that could not be taken directly or censored. Especially the first interracial kiss on network, prime-time TV. About the only thing the studios got was yanking the female 1st officer (who became the nurse, and then Gene's wife in real life).
Also, no one wanted to fund TOS. Thank God for Desilu. It's a really interesting story. Even if you didn't care for TOS, you should read up on its major impact from a socio-political standpoint.
As far as Enterprise, that was writers fucking with the history. The history of the creation of the Federation was fairly well detailed. Unfortunately, they fucked it. They messed with all sorts of things. Hell, some of the latter movies did it too, like First Contact. Oh well, too much variation from the full history that was long written before.
I'm going to go see the new movie. I'm getting old, but I'm still flexible enough to see things from a new perspective. I'll look for creativity. If I get "Gen Y's version of 90210 in space" (e.g., Stormship Troopers), I'll criticize it based on that. But if they actually introduce something new, different, unique and bring it together, then I'll be entertained.
If Hollywood's remakes and sequels are any indicator, I won't like this movie. They aren't creative. They aren't original. Haven't been in a long time. They take a similar storyline and apply it to characters. It's typically unoriginal. But I'm willing to give it a chance.
This is why most modern movies suck hairy, dingleberry-encrusted ass these days.
Aesthetically pleasing turds.
"Sure it stinks, and stained the floor, but MAN were those peanuts glorious!"
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Genie's out of the bottle hedonis and it can't go back.
No Sci-Fi or Fantasy film released these days (no matter how stellar the performances, no matter how brilliant the plot) can ever make it without CGI.
As far as the Trek film is concerned, I don't have high hopes but I'm open to being pleasantly surprised.
Trekkers, TOS, remakes and Simon Peg ...
First off, some of us call ourselves "Trekkers," although it has been debated:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trekker#Trekkie_v._Trekker
I honestly think Roddenberry got a good laugh out of that one, and I've always remember Nimoy's comments as the one's I've always followed.
Secondly, nothing bests TOS. The '66-68 series was well ahead of its time, pushed both the social fabric of the racist/sexist US media as well as redefined Sci-Fi as more than just man v. monsters.
Third, I'm going into the movie open minded. It's a new way of looking at the series. Hopefully they will be original. Although I hate nearly all sequels and remakes, things like Battlestar Galatica and Daniel Craig in the new 007 track do exist, and people honestly try to be original in any remake and/or continuation.
Fourth, if nothing else, I'm going for Simon Peg as Scotty.
Lastly, I still love the first Sci-Fi series done completely with CGI, Babylon 5. Unlike dozens of other space-based Sci-Fi shows, it was the first, major product that took advantage of CGI and obeyed Newtonian Physics.
I.e., Ships didn't "fly" and beams didn't "pulse."
First off, some of us call ourselves "Trekkers," although it has been debated:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trekker#Trekkie_v._Trekker
I honestly think Roddenberry got a good laugh out of that one, and I've always remember Nimoy's comments as the one's I've always followed.
Secondly, nothing bests TOS. The '66-68 series was well ahead of its time, pushed both the social fabric of the racist/sexist US media as well as redefined Sci-Fi as more than just man v. monsters.
Third, I'm going into the movie open minded. It's a new way of looking at the series. Hopefully they will be original. Although I hate nearly all sequels and remakes, things like Battlestar Galatica and Daniel Craig in the new 007 track do exist, and people honestly try to be original in any remake and/or continuation.
Fourth, if nothing else, I'm going for Simon Peg as Scotty.
Lastly, I still love the first Sci-Fi series done completely with CGI, Babylon 5. Unlike dozens of other space-based Sci-Fi shows, it was the first, major product that took advantage of CGI and obeyed Newtonian Physics.
I.e., Ships didn't "fly" and beams didn't "pulse."
The movie's even better the second time around IMO.
(Almost ashamed to admit this, but)ST:The Motion Picture literally put me to sleep. This one kept me on the edge of my seat both times. This is Star Trek on speed and I'm hooked. Already counting down to the sequel.
Even the alternate reality thing makes perfect sense to me now. Abrams has completely freed himself from the yolk called "canon", and can now literally take Star Trek where it's never gone before.
Film's major weakness though is Nero. I still don't quite get what his beef is. Khan Noonien Soong - there was a man with a legitimate grievance.
(Almost ashamed to admit this, but)ST:The Motion Picture literally put me to sleep. This one kept me on the edge of my seat both times. This is Star Trek on speed and I'm hooked. Already counting down to the sequel.
Even the alternate reality thing makes perfect sense to me now. Abrams has completely freed himself from the yolk called "canon", and can now literally take Star Trek where it's never gone before.
Film's major weakness though is Nero. I still don't quite get what his beef is. Khan Noonien Soong - there was a man with a legitimate grievance.
I heard it was good, and I'm going to see it, but I'll probably wait till it's out on DVD.
Elaborate please. (you can spoil the movie for me all you want in the process, my boycott of it remains steadfastly in place)
Why the boycott?
