I hope ...

Ok I'm not really a fan of your 'creativity'. It's not exactly flattering. You could argue that the original make-up in the ddf shoot is not flattering either but the clown face that you have painted on my face is much worse. We get the point without you putting photos of me around the net looking like that.
Some people have a little too much fun. While some men may argue "oh roll with it," I completely understand that any doctored picture could come back to haunt any model. He could have made the point without the almost realistic edit, a cartoon edit (so it clearly looks fake -- possibly Marge's head atop or something) would have been better for the point.

Side Note: For copyright reasons, more cartoonish would also clearly fall under protected parody, instead of a more likely copyright violation as they were made more realistic in the ones he actually posted.

For everyone: Obviously I have no control over make-up or outfits during shoots, I agree that the make-up was really heavy in this shoot... too much for my liking... but it's not my choice - it is the choice of the photographer and make-up artist. You should email ddf about their make-up choices.
Way ahead of you there! I've already sent my complaint to them after seeing the set, and I totally understand how you had no control over it. Sadly enough, naturally beautiful women like yourself don't need make-up. I sure wish the publishers would get that. Maybe just a little highlight in the lips, a little shine so your face comes out in the contrast that occurs with photography and videography, but nothing more.

But as I mentioned, your curves come through regardless, and I don't mean just your breasts. You're a drop dead gorgeous raven, and there is no argument there -- any man would melt to press his lips upon yours. But your figure is what drives men like myself wild. To make my point, understand I just re-watched your beach seen with Christy Marks this past week (I travel away from my wife during the week, so women like you are a staple since my wife is shy to be photographed, for career affecting reasons). Even when Christy Marks drops her top, I'm still oogling that red one-piece hugging your body. I won't go into more details, but your figure, side-to-side, prevents my eyes from wandering in any scene you are in.

But since most of the material you guys have is much more 'amateuristic' it's not such a big deal to have a change once in a while. There is a lot of new content of me coming out at the moment and this kind of heavy styled make-up is in the minority of that content.
But unlike the overwhelming majority of models, your beauty is without fault, regardless of the circumstances and details added. I now wish I wouldn't have ever mentioned and made the "heavy" comment about make-up. I sure wish people wouldn't have taking it in ways I did not mean. My apologies for giving them that avenue. I meant it more as a "here's a publisher that was stupid, but still cannot take away from Angela's pure beauty."

On another note - the reason it looks so heavy for you guys is because you are not used to me wearing so much. Models like Merilyn (Anya) Sakova and the new stuff of Ines Cudna are wearing this amount of make-up in almost every shoot so it doesn't look so weird.
I won't comment on Merilyn specially other than she is a lovely and uniquely figured woman, although many men missed that early on or -- worse yet -- focused solely on her oversized breasts. I.e., it's clear her popularity has increased with her increased (extremely heavy) use of make-up. So yes, I completely agree with your assessment that it is "standard" for women like herself, for various reasons.

As far as Ines Cuda, I've always thought she's worn way too much. But I've seen some close-ups and I know why they do it.

In any case, it's completely sad that your natural beauty was not appreciated by your artist and publisher. I cannot stress that your facial appearance is without question, naturally. Add in the fact that your figure and proportion head-to-toe is what your title is all about. You are the classic, voluptuous frame, one that men don't get tired of after a few months either. Especially when they complement the intertwine of their bodies against yours and cannot detract their eyes from the enchanting view above your neck as well.

My major problem with this make-up is that it heavy on both the eyes and the mouth. For me, classy make-up has always focussed on big eyes OR big lips - but both at the same time is a little... well you guys already know. I'm sure there are some fans out there who like it, so at least I can make a few guys happy with this shoot.
Not to get even more intimate in my thoughts, but the most beautiful women in the world are the ones that look just as stunning when they first wake-up in the morning. It's the same reason why I want to make love to my wife every morning, and only more so, after 15 years. She is just as beautiful as when the great majority of other women are -- as other men put it -- at their "ugliest."

It's also why I really don't go for an overwhelming majority of models -- with regards to the face as much as the body. You are ultimately blessed in both, head-to-toe. Sorry to see it wasted by such publishers, but I still enjoyed the set regardless.

Just like an eclipse cannot erase the sun's beauty, but only present it in yet another beauty of its own.

BTW I am going to tease you and say that this weekend I did some fucking amazing photo shoots with another amazing model (you'll have to guess) you guys are going to blow your ball sacks off when they start circulating the net. This is a much awaited pairing but it is a big secret so get the brain cogs ticking and turning!
Too late. That's what happens when I watch that aforementioned scene with that red one-piece hugging your body. Nothing against the extremely beautiful and curvy Christy Marks, but sometimes some figures are presented that I cannot take my eyes away from. :uohs:
 

Angela White

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I've always wondered, Ange, does your arse get made-up before a shoot as well? Perhaps a brush of rouge, here, to bring out the colour in your cheeks, or a strike of bumliner, there, to define your bumline, maybe even a daub of bumshadow, whatever that stuff's for. I've always wondered.
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I've wondered the same thing.


:1orglaugh:1orglaugh Are you guys serious? LOL.

No I only ever have make-up on my face (and in most Abby Winters shoots I have NONE on my face either - If I ever have anything it is just a little mascara).

Most make-up artists use the same brushes for all their models so probably not a good idea to start using them on 'intimate' areas (I'm sure they would clean them every day though).
 

Angela White

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Re: I hope ...

Way ahead of you there! I've already sent my complaint to them after seeing the set.

Good on you! Thanks Prof! :thumbsup: I get so many emails and messages complaining to me about this or that outfit/set/make-up but no-one ever writes to the right people: the websites! In fact, the same sometimes goes the other way too... I get many more compliments and praise but if fans don't send it to the company as well as me then the company doesn't realise my popularity and thus may not be enthusiastic to hire me again (not that that would ever happen since I am so amazing ;))... See it's not ALL about boobs and masturbating ! LOL

Sadly enough, naturally beautiful women like yourself don't need make-up. Maybe just a little highlight in the lips...

I actually thought that the first two shoots that came out for DDF were much better because the lips were much more subtle - I was still wearing a fair amount of make-up but for me it was the lips in this third shoot that is the real killer (It was actually a different make-up artist who worked on that shoot so you can really see how KEY a good make-up artist is and the HUGE difference it can make to a shoot)

But as I mentioned, your curves come through regardless, and I don't mean just your breasts... Even when Christy Marks drops her top, I'm still oogling that red one-piece hugging your body. I won't go into more details, but your figure, side-to-side, prevents my eyes from wandering in any scene you are in......

But unlike the overwhelming majority of models, your beauty is without fault, regardless of the circumstances and details added. I now wish I wouldn't have ever mentioned and made the "heavy" comment about make-up. I sure wish people wouldn't have taking it in ways I did not mean. My apologies for giving them that avenue. I meant it more as a "here's a publisher that was stupid, but still cannot take away from Angela's pure beauty.

Thanks for your support! Its sometimes hard to know how to take those kinds of compliments because it seems you love my body more than I do! LOL. Don't get me wrong my body is ok but it's quite easy for me to stand in front of the mirror and pick out the things I want to work on... motivation for the gym I suppose! LOL

Don't worry about the comment you made! I would like to encourage comments and, yes, even the criticism - just not the 'come-back-to-haunt-me' doctored photos (but that is sorted now so I wont mention that again). Any criticism is good because it helps me to be a better model and that is what I am striving to be.

I won't comment on Merilyn specially other than she is a lovely and uniquely figured woman, although many men missed that early on or -- worse yet -- focused solely on her oversized breasts. I.e., it's clear her popularity has increased with her increased (extremely heavy) use of make-up. So yes, I completely agree with your assessment that it is "standard" for women like herself, for various reasons.

As far as Ines Cuda, I've always thought she's worn way too much. But I've seen some close-ups and I know why they do it.

"Unique" is definitely the right word to describe Merilyn! I have not seen another model with her proportions. It is interesting that she has become more popular with more make-up... But i think she looks good with a lot of make-up on (whereas I prefer the in between look on me - some make-up, but either focussing on the eyes - my preference - or the lips: Not both!).

I'm a big fan of Ines Cudna but her look has changed quite drastically over the years. For me she has gone from cute to sultry - It depends on you preference on what you like better but I think I prefer her cute.

Angie xox
 

Angela White

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Re: ????

Well, I can't speak for Bumfield but I certainly am. I never joke where women's arses are concerned.
Oglero :eek:

:1orglaugh Well I hope that solved the mystery! :tongue: Do you think that companies should be paying more attention to body make-up?

The only time I have had any body make-up was during a Bahamas shoot where all the girls needed a little because we had been attacked by noseeums! We had to cover some of the bites for the video so it didn't look like we had pimples.
 
Didn't someone here win a Voluptuous title?

As usual, apologies in advance for a long post ...

Good on you! Thanks Prof! :thumbsup:
I know how much the channel publishing the media, let alone anyone "producing" many aspects, totally goes against the will of the subject. Colleagues of mine in both the traditional media and adult industry can tell some tales. Hell, it's no different being an author of a book or magazine article, as editors will sensationalize titles and even cut out statements and paragraphs that cause the point to be utterly missed or even changed (there is a reason why I have not written for several publishers since the '90s).

I get so many emails and messages complaining to me about this or that outfit/set/make-up but no-one ever writes to the right people: the websites! In fact, the same sometimes goes the other way too... I get many more compliments and praise but if fans don't send it to the company as well as me then the company doesn't realise my popularity and thus may not be enthusiastic to hire me again (not that that would ever happen since I am so amazing ;))...
Although I've been a tiny voice in the wilderness, I do try my best.

See it's not ALL about boobs and masturbating ! LOL
If desire, lust and instinct were reduced to merely that, then what would we live for? In fact, there is so much to erotica and life that people miss, and often misrepresent as "big tits" here and "big nut" there. But, alas, it is for each and everyone of us to discover in our own way.

I like to write (if you cannot tell ;) ).

I actually thought that the first two shoots that came out for DDF were much better because the lips were much more subtle - I was still wearing a fair amount of make-up but for me it was the lips in this third shoot that is the real killer (It was actually a different make-up artist who worked on that shoot so you can really see how KEY a good make-up artist is and the HUGE difference it can make to a shoot)
I understand the need for make-up on skin in photography. I'm not professional, but my hobby for the last 2 years has been in the pursuit of becoming a serious amateur, including indoor and fill flash (using multiple sources), etc... Although I do have to say, I often see some shots are really novice ones (and there's no excuse with 16-64GB SD/CF cards these days that can take thousands of RAW shots, let alone 1 out of every 10 or 20 high-qual JPEGs that could be posted without edit).

Taking photos of various individuals, and editing the RAW shots, one can see how make-up makes all-the-difference for many. It's hard to bring out select highlights that are clearly visible by the naked eye, although the last few years of CCD/CMOS sensory and on-board image processing technology, in a little, low-power dSLR, are shocking compared to 35mm film just a few years ago.

I still love shooting my wife's face with no make-up except a little lipstick. I have difficulty seeing otherwise. Now maybe it's because I've been waking up to her in bed for over a dozen years, and I've fully admitted that she turns me on more now than when I first met her at 18.

There are women who look better with make-up, but they are typically not the women I go for. All women are beautiful in their own way, it's just that the more natural they are (especially how they look with no make-up), the more voluptuous (in the real, lustful sense, not just the "big tits in passing view") they are and the more they going to appeal to myself. I am no catch and God knows any woman would say I shouldn't be choosy, but I am and I always will be, because that's what makes me happy (as others should as well).

Thanks for your support!
No, please don't thank me. You'll come to realize that your thanks to all of us is in the splendor of your existence, your sharing it with us, men who love the figure and presence of all that is woman, with some of the most beautiful, such as yourself, gracing us with your presence. Men should not be thanked for merely channelling their lust, their instinct, in a way that women can enjoy as well (or we hope you enjoy, although you have to speak up when you do not or do not find it complementary). God help us if every man did that, then more women would not have issues with sharing their bodies with more men, even if just from afar and in fantasy.

I don't mean to get spiritual, but the withholding and containment of one's lust was never and is never natural. It is a result of irresponsible men who needed "rules" to keep themselves in-line, instead of recognizing the obviousness of the truth (one could easily discuss the folly of male-dominated history and why this resulted, where equality would have changed much for the better -- ironically, for the male even more so). Erotica is a natural law, it must exist, it should exist for all. Instead, it is left to the people who want to label it for "outcasts," so it gets entirely too dominated by people who will pay for more "outcast" views (at least here in the US). But that's another tangent.

The fact that you share yourself with us is our reward. No need to thank, just comment when you agree, and let us know when you do not. At least with myself (although I'm sure others) because I'm not going to be "offended" for you merely stating your feelings. Your stock as a beautiful model and, even more so, a pure lady of enchantment is not going to be diminished by offering up such any more than when my wife decides she's going to change my view on something (i.e., argument ;) ).

Its sometimes hard to know how to take those kinds of compliments because it seems you love my body more than I do! LOL.
The line of men that think like I do is not short. Or did someone not win a recent Voluptuous title?

You posed in high school. How many guys you were going to school with came up to you and told you ... (please excuse the vulgar phrases here) ... they "couldn't stop jacking off to you?" A lot of men keep it inside. Here in the US, I still haven't met a man who didn't think Monica Lewinski was attractive when I asked them in private, but damn if they wouldn't say it in front of others, let alone ridiculed the few who would admit it in front of others. Again, I don't know how it is for those Aussies and their media, but the US media is pretty brutal on not only women, but the men really support it publicly more than I'd like.

Any woman who isn't a hardbody is considered "having a little extra" no matter how fit and form she is. Women who, God help us, have a wider figure (which things like the Body Mass Index, BMI, utterly ignore -- and it is medically challenged every year as being only a "median" not a rule) are automatically considered "fat." Doctors have been saying for decades the "quick test" is the protrusion of the stomach, how much fat overhangs. If you're under 2.5cm (1"), you're very fit and healthy, and even some over 1" is normal for a breeding woman.

Hell, even over in the Denise Milani thread, someone was saying her little inner stomach bulge was soft and needed to go away. She's got a wider, but extremely slender figure (insanely slender when viewed from the side) with that tight, toned stomach, but I guess unless it's a ripped 6-pack, people think otherwise? Josh Whedon is often credited with having extremely beautiful women in his series and shows, and yet it's because he insists that women "show a womanly form." I always like to use Jewel Staite as an example, where she was +20lbs. from her most skinny in the Firefly series, but had lost it afterwards (when she wasn't on a Josh-related payroll) and it showed in the movie Serenity.

Don't get me wrong my body is ok but it's quite easy for me to stand in front of the mirror and pick out the things I want to work on... motivation for the gym I suppose! LOL
Here's the thing. I learned early on that women age and weight fluctuates. It's one of many views I picked up on by age 15 (the age I often say is the age where my views and values became largely concrete).

I cannot emphasize enough that I am no catch. My "luck" with women was never one of my looks. Although I have no deformities and was fairly athletic in my youth (I almost got back to similar about 2 years ago, but have been on-the-road too much as of late -- hard to do in your mid 30s), I don't attribute it to being on the football team or anything else either. And God help me it's never been the "I go after the grateful type" (not only did that piss me off, not only did some assholes have to recant that when I ended up dating the "thinner" women they liked, but many of them would later recant because they'd later date, or in 2 cases, marry former girlfriends of mine). It's because when I see beauty that is flawless, and transcends age and weight (at least to a point, I'm not going to say all age and weight doesn't impact), I'm totally into such women.

In other words, when I see what I want, I go for it. I see that woman in a room and she is my first choice. She's not my second or third, and women notice such. No one wants to be the "latter choice you take home." When I have such, I don't let her say anything to the contrary of my desire and lust. I know there is so much media telling women otherwise out there, especially in the US, but ironically there are allegedly "hot" actresses who have body double (and not just for age, like Julia Roberts in Pretty Woman), have a tummy on a straight or pear/spoon shaped body that doesn't hold weight well, etc... Women who don't have wider, hourglass figures that hold weight well and distribute it womanly. Other women who are short, but narrow and show any bit of fat, whereas stocky apples put it in their bust or hips.

I met my wife at 18. She was a shorter, stockier apple (with a nice hourglass set of hips, just not as much rear as some would say is a hourglass) that was starving herself to maintain 125-130lbs. with diet pills and caffine. She was a 36C-24-34. Within a couple of years, she leveled out to 160lbs. and a nice, beautiful 38D-26-36. She's been as heavy as a 42F-30-38 before, unhealthy and over 200lbs. (that's my only issue, her health), but only for health reasons I like her under 175lbs. I really enjoy her 38/40D-26/28-36/38 figure. I remember making love to her when her breasts where perkier, and I love how much softer they have become as they loose some round volume.

In fact, when I hit 18, I dated several late 30 - early 40 year olds, just so I could know what to expect. The reality is that once I found the killer body and beautiful view atop that I enjoyed, it really didn't matter what age and weight. Hence when I met my wife, I knew I would be satisfied eternally. Although one thing I didn't expect is how well she'd learn my body over time (and one of the reasons I changed from being unsure about monogamy before marriage to completely relishing in it, at least for myself -- but that too is another tangent).

Don't worry about the comment you made! I would like to encourage comments and, yes, even the criticism - just not the 'come-back-to-haunt-me' doctored photos (but that is sorted now so I wont mention that again). Any criticism is good because it helps me to be a better model and that is what I am striving to be.
Yeah, I thought those were clearly ones that could 'come back to haunt you' since they looked realistic.

"Unique" is definitely the right word to describe Merilyn! I have not seen another model with her proportions.
I didn't want to get into it, but to me, she's a bit too much of an apple (I told you I was picky, unrealistically so for my looks). Yes, she has breasts. Yes, I'd completely love to enjoy my favorite "safe sex" with her. But, again, I'm one of those idealists that have this view of a voluptuous woman, with a perfect set of hips, the right softness to her width, something that not merely fits perfectly for my pelvis, but should I engulf her entire body into and intertwined with mine.

It is interesting that she has become more popular with more make-up... But i think she looks good with a lot of make-up on (whereas I prefer the in between look on me - some make-up, but either focussing on the eyes - my preference - or the lips: Not both!).
I know a lot of men that feel that way, and don't enjoy her face as much without. Frankly, I think she should go natural, be herself -- just like any woman -- and let the men do their folly. Some men just love to pick on little things, often discrediting a woman they actually do lust for, heavily. One of my favorites -- and a rare, thinner woman -- is Shay Laren (that hourglass is sweet for such a reduced frame, and her hips come out well despite the lack of width), and there's no end to the comments on the asymmetrical size and shape of her breasts.

I'm a big fan of Ines Cudna but her look has changed quite drastically over the years. For me she has gone from cute to sultry - It depends on you preference on what you like better but I think I prefer her cute.
I always loved Ines natural. She has a nice, natural complexion and one that does not need to be touched. Her mother was absolutely striking as well.

I'm not one to pick favorites, but your womanly form is so voluptuous in the full sense, I cannot comment without getting too far into it. ;) I'll just leave it as I did before. I saw your beach scene with Christy Marks, a very beautiful woman with a heavenly figure as well. And even when Christy's top was dropped, and you were still in your red one-piece, my eyes were all over that figure of yours, and not even a glance at Christy's. Nothing against Christy, not even trying to 'draw a comparison' or 'say who's more beautiful,' but sometimes one cannot stop lusting for perfection when it is so clearly presented like you were off-your-feet in that segment.
 
Forgot to finish an important point ...

I forgot to finish an important point, largely about not being a catch myself ...

My wife, to this day, sometimes gets pissed when I start talking about how much I love her body. She thinks I'm lying. I get so fucking worked up when I do it. She knows this. She questions if it's me just fooling myself to get horny. She wonders if it's because of monogamy and I force myself to do it. I don't force myself to do anything. I've always been like this. And maybe that's how I got women. I get so worked up with their beauty. I go after what I want.

When I dated before her, it was the same with my friends and lovers. I would get worked up. What women saw as complements, possibly fake, it was real. It was them. It was showing themselves what they don't value enough about their body, every part. That's the only thing I can think of that is how I had my lovers, my friends, my partners at times. It wasn't about weight, some where thin, some were fuller. Hell, I totally oogle Maria Moore (I love that BBW's proportions, her looks, her devilish smile ;) ).

In the case of my wife, I never "believed" in monogamy before I got married. Today I have monogamy because my wife is the best looker and lay, and no one is going to tell me otherwise. If my wife wanted another man in the bedroom I'd so do it, and have no interest in adding another woman in return. Because when you have the best, at least in one's own eyes, why would you want more? The only "more" I want to do is try to please her in return. Especially after 15 years with the same woman, who knows everything about me, in and out of bed. That's just a bonus. I don't think I believe in "monogamy" today, I just live it because it's the best for myself.

I won't comment how many times I've found myself "worked up" about yourself when I've been on-the-road, away from my wife, during the week. Damn I just went all over this post with all sorts of various comments. Sorry about that.
 
Angela, I was blown away when I found recent pictures of you several minutes ago. I noticed you when you first hit Voluptuous years ago, but I almost didn't recongize you when I saw this set. I think that I last saw your pictures 3(?) years ago. You have only gotten hotter as you have aged.
 

Angela White

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Angela, I was blown away when I found recent pictures of you several minutes ago. I noticed you when you first hit Voluptuous years ago, but I almost didn't recongize you when I saw this set. I think that I last saw your pictures 3(?) years ago. You have only gotten hotter as you have aged.

Thanks Guitar! Which photo set did you see? Do you mean the one above?

Angela White is on "Fat Pizza"?????

Yep sweety, they had re-runs in Australia for the last couple of months. It's a TV comedy.

You can buy the series that I am in here:

http://www.madman.com.au/actions/catalogue.do?method=view&releaseId=9105

My character name is Ruby aka Porn Star 'Mama Jugs'

xoxoxox
 
A woman ...

Angela, I was blown away when I found recent pictures of you several minutes ago. I noticed you when you first hit Voluptuous years ago, but I almost didn't recongize you when I saw this set. I think that I last saw your pictures 3(?) years ago. You have only gotten hotter as you have aged.
A woman can change significantly in physical appearance from age 18 to 21. I noted this in my wife as well, as I met her at 18 and married her at 21.

Changes all for the better in both cases (not that they weren't the cream at 18 either ;) ).

All I know is that her most recent Voluptuous title was well deserved.
 
Photographer Bernd Daktari Lorenz?

Angela:

While I selfishly have your ear, would you mind commenting on your experience working with photographer Bernd Daktari Lorenz?
I leave it to you to either post in this thread or post in a new "Talk" thread I started, so it doesn't distract from these "Babe" section threads:
http://board.freeones.com/showthread.php?t=273034

Thanx for reading regardless!
 

Angela White

Official Checked Star Member
Re: Photographer Bernd Daktari Lorenz?

Angela:

While I selfishly have your ear, would you mind commenting on your experience working with photographer Bernd Daktari Lorenz?
I leave it to you to either post in this thread or post in a new "Talk" thread I started, so it doesn't distract from these "Babe" section threads:
http://board.freeones.com/showthread.php?t=273034

Thanx for reading regardless!


Done :D;)
 
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