American Reputation

[Friday on my mind]

Nobody is saying that. Blacks are just as capable as whites, or Asians, or anyone else, of making those kinds of decisions and thoughts. However, it is true that during the last election, blacks (as a voting demographic) largely voted for Obama, and indications are that the overriding reason was racial solidarity. That is simply how it happened. What is says is debatable, but I don't believe that anyone argues that is implies that blacks cannot think of grander concepts. Myself, I think it simply says that, as a group, they voted alike. Nothing more, nothing less.

Blacks in prior presidential elections to the last one had been voting at about 90% democratic.With Obama on the ticket that may have been up a couple % points.They would have voted for Hillary at over 90% as well or any other democrate.The republicans have no one to blame for the very low support they enjoy among minorities but themselves.They adopted a policy of racial wedge issues in the 60s to attract a larger white vote and that worked to win them several elections.Republicans realize this and have made some attempts to be more inclusive by such things as naming Steele as the head of the RNC,but they are still being held hostage by their evangelical aging white right wing base who really has no interest in being a big tent even if that is political suicide.

 

[wds125]

Coming from an American here.. But we have been a joke for many years. I will quote the great Eddie Izzard, Hope I get this right
Americans if you travel remember two things. First your canadian and two Scooby Doo.

The current president of the U.S is biggest mistake this country could have made as to our
standing in the world! It has made us look like a weak country with all his stupid apologizing!!

 

[GregCentauro]

The current president of the U.S is biggest mistake this country could have made as to our
standing in the world! It has made us look like a weak country with all his stupid apologizing!!

Have you ever been abroad? :1orglaugh

The rest of the world likes to be included - not bullied.

 

[georges]

I can only speak for England but most of the time feelings about the USA don't break down across party lines. I can think of a number of British right wingers who would be happy to employ a similar approach to economic matters as the republican party, but in no way does stop them from disliking the USA.

On the point about african americans and their voting behaviour, are you under the impression that this segment of society is incapable of thinking about what a candidate can do if elected and can only make decisions based on visual stimuli? Again, relying on personal experiece of black people in america I have found them extremely capable of making choices that are not based on racial affiliation. Indeed I have had some very pleasurable encounters precisely because of this. Yum.

The African Americans voted for a black guy called Obama and who was supported by Reverend Jesse Jackson, so it was mainly before all a visual stimuli rather than a rational or justified vote. The promises Obama has made were and still are unfulfilled, they are more a bunch of unrealistic socialist bullshit than something else. In the French presidential election, the Africans and the Arab people coming from the Magrheb who hated and still hate Sarkozy voted for Segolene Royal because she was looking more sympathetic and was personally less individualistic than Nicolas Sarkozy. Community Organizers are very commonplace among African and Arab communities especially in Europe, for example in France, they are also the ones who encourage their own population to vote for a system that assists people who don't want to work by giving them social and financial helps as well as flats and this in priority before the french born and bread citizens. Socialism and communism are like the plague and have no place in developped countries, 30 years of socialism have ruined France morally, economically and culturally. There is a fourth point on which France has been ruined but I am not going to enter a debate that can cause too many harm or that will get into labelling people with stickers. Voting for the sake of voting is completely stupid and definitely not helping your country, some people base their votes on the popularity of a candidate (the perfect example is Obama) and others base their votes on what the candidate brings to the country or what he has done in the past. Obama has done nothing stellar in his state of illinois when he was a senator. I can't wish success to someone who is a proven community organizer nor someone who knees in front of a saudi official or someone who shook Chavez's hand. Those are little incidents but they are enough to tell me who is Obama and how patriotic he is. You can be an Obama apologist/fangirl but you well never convince someone who is reasoned and who is logic that Obama is a great president nor a true leader.

 

[jasonk282]

Well glad to see the racial thing has stopped:thumbsup:

 

[GregCentauro]

I can't wish success to someone [...] who knees in front of a saudi official

... While kissing and holding hands is alright...?

...or someone who shook Chavez's hand.

 

[SiCo]

Well glad to see the racial thing has stopped:thumbsup:

To be fair, race does come into play don't you think? In hindsight, Nazi Germany's reputation and image is very much connected to segregation and alleged ethnic disparities.

I know from what news coverage I watched during Obama's election, that there was a lot more hope amongst African nations based on his ethnicity. That hope may very well be extended to America as a whole for being the people who elected him.


:2 cents:

 

[jasonk282]

To be fair, race does come into play don't you think? In hindsight, Nazi Germany's reputation and image is very much connected to segregation and alleged ethnic disparities.

I know from what news coverage I watched during Obama's election, that there was a lot more hope amongst African nations based on his ethnicity. That hope may very well be extended to America as a whole for being the people who elected him.


:2 cents:

No I don't think so. To make a blanket statement that.....

The African Americans voted for a black guy called Obama and who was supported by Reverend Jesse Jackson, so it was mainly before all a visual stimuli rather than a rational or justified vote

is just wrong. There are conservative African Americans out there that did not vote for Obama. Hell the RNC chairman is African American.

 

[Shorty V]

My advice to all citizens of the US of A would be: stop worrying about the reputation of your country.
The earthly paradise doesn't exist, not in America nor elsewhere! It's all the work of man (and woman!), so errors & mistakes are to be made.

Just be ur self and love thy neighbours!

And thy neighbour's neighbours, and thy neighbour's neighbour's neighbours, and thy neighbour's neighbour's neighbour's neighbours .... and ....

Yeah, all right Shorty, don't delay with the point.

 

[SiCo]

No I don't think so. To make a blanket statement that.....
is just wrong. There are conservative African Americans out there that did not vote for Obama. Hell the RNC chairman is African American.

I'm not so sure we're talking about the same thing. I'm referring to international standing based on who a country elects.

 

[jasonk282]

I'm not so sure we're talking about the same thing. I'm referring to international standing based on who a country elects.

Yea we are talking about two different thing.

 

[JayJohn85]

Sorry to burst your bubble, but when a clueless fuckhead calls me a flamer? Doesn't mean much. Sorry Champ, no bueno.




Blind rage? Ha. Don't flatter yourself. Try nauseated annoyance. I've dealt with simple minded Eurotrash like you for years, and one thing always rings true of your ilk; you're a never-ending parade of deluded morons who have convinced yourselves of your undeserved intellectual superiority, whilst the truth is that you're nothing more than naive, ignorant troglodytes. Go ahead and continue telling yourself that you're right, that you're superior, that you know all, but the truth is unchangeable; you're a fool. A blind, disconnected, irrelevant simpleton, with no clue of what is really happening in the world. Your head is buried in the sand, and time is passing you by. I pity you. I truly do. To live in a world, and have no idea of what is truly around you? Sad... Just sad.

woah lulz someone has a inferiority complex but hey time will tell. Just wait till we get our superstate you guys keep trying to block, yep just waiting till the brits wake up and stop being your lapdogs.

 

[wds125]

Have you ever been abroad? :1orglaugh

The rest of the world likes to be included - not bullied.

If the rest of the world wants to be included they can take Obama and his merry band of leftist Democrats befor they bring down this country!

 

[Hot Mega]

If the rest of the world wants to be included they can take Obama and his merry band of leftist Democrats befor they bring down this country!

Can we let him fix the mess created by GWB and his rightist band of fuck ups first.:o

 

[GregCentauro]

If the rest of the world wants to be included they can take Obama and his merry band of leftist Democrats befor they bring down this country!

You mean like before it is like Sweden and everybody knows how to spell? :1orglaugh

 

[Facetious]

No offense author but are you attempting to castrate U.S. ? :hammer:

Re: "American Reputation" ? :shy: This reads like a wimpy, lilly livered seventh grader whose worried about being accepted by his or her peers !... "American Reputation" :1orglaugh Boo Hoo our reputation is at risk ! Sheesh! Let that get out and you deserve to get trampled !

Self Preservation and Personal Well Being so that I don't have to be anybody else's burden are my motives for the time being, if that threatens, offends, upsets others, well, ' can't help ya.

I Hope that everything works out for everybody in this strange strange world we live in... master jack !

 

[whoremaker]

woah lulz someone has a inferiority complex but hey time will tell. Just wait till we get our superstate you guys keep trying to block, yep just waiting till the brits wake up and stop being your lapdogs.

Are you related to smoknn, by any chance?

 

[JayJohn85]

naw I just love getting a rise outta folks lulz.

 

[SiCo]

No offense author but are you attempting to castrate U.S. ? :hammer:

Re: "American Reputation" ? :shy: This reads like a wimpy, lilly livered seventh grader whose worried about being accepted by his or her peers !... "American Reputation" :1orglaugh Boo Hoo our reputation is at risk ! Sheesh! Let that get out and you deserve to get trampled !

Self Preservation and Personal Well Being so that I don't have to be anybody else's burden are my motives for the time being, if that threatens, offends, upsets others, well, ' can't help ya.

I Hope that everything works out for everybody in this strange strange world we live in... master jack !

"No offense"? Hmm. Benefit of doubt given.

It's after statements like this that I remind myself of the old adage, 'No man is an island'.

(I've got no beef with 7th graders either.)

 

[JayJohn85]

"No offense"? Hmm. Benefit of doubt given.

It's after statements like this that I remind myself of the old adage, 'No man is an island'.

(I've got no beef with 7th graders either.)

Yea its called trade.