A question of history

it`s likely that women have given men blowjobs since the days of the caveman, but I wonder about other sex activities. Did the Romans indulge in bondage? Would ancient egyptians have enjoyed a gangbang? Did they have nipple clamps in medieval times? What would the Tudors have used as vibrators?
 

GodsEmbryo

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Great question. I don't think it was ever that different, we're just more open about it. It's no coincidence prostitution is called the oldest job in the world for example, simply because there has always been a demand for it because of men and their desire. And since your username is Marquis de Sade I'm sure you know men always had a lot of fantasies and desires.

There's lots of stuff on the internet about the topic.

Sex in the ancient world Pompei (vid)
Ridiculous Sex Myths From History
Medieval sexual behaviour
An Illustrated History of Sex Toys
A brief history of human sex

Etc.
 

Rey C.

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Great question. I don't think it was ever that different, we're just more open about it. It's no coincidence prostitution is called the oldest job in the world for example, simply because there has always been a demand for it because of men and their desire. And since your username is Marquis de Sade I'm sure you know men always had a lot of fantasies and desires.

There's lots of stuff on the internet about the topic.

Sex in the ancient world Pompei (vid)
Ridiculous Sex Myths From History
Medieval sexual behaviour
An Illustrated History of Sex Toys
A brief history of human sex

Etc.

Very interesting references, GodsEmbryo. Here's another. Standard Roman Sexuality

"...Walters makes a crucial distinction between 'males' and 'men': 'Not all males are men, and therefore impenetrable.' In particular, he refers to the special nuance of the term vir, which 'does not simply denote an adult male; it refers specifically to those adult males who are freeborn Roman citizens in good standing, those at the top of the Roman social hierarchy -- those who are sexually impenetrable penetrators'"

On the History Channel last year, there was an interesting show about sexual practices (and taboos) in ancient Rome. It's obviously very hard to compare different cultures across thousands of years. But in many ways, it seems that the ancient Romans were actually more open about sex and nudity than we are (here in the U.S., anyway). But what was interesting about ancient Rome was that not all males were considered men. Rome had a culture that was very much class based. And unlike in the 20th Century U.S., there was really no such thing as "social mobility" in Rome; making lots of money or being popular did not change your social rank. And for a male to be considered a man, he had to be of a certain social standing and he had to possess dominant traits. So while a male of Equestrian or Senatorial rank could engage in homosexual acts, he would only be considered a "man" if he was the dominant partner in that relationship. Although Caligula, Nero and other emperors engaged in bi and homosexual acts, as well as incest, it was Nero's public displays of submissiveness with his castrated lover, Sporus, that created a scandal. And it is thought that it was Caligula's suggestion that one of his Praetorian guards was a submissive homosexual that helped seal his fate.
 

GodsEmbryo

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On the History Channel last year, there was an interesting show about sexual practices (and taboos) in ancient Rome. It's obviously very hard to compare different cultures across thousands of years. But in many ways, it seems that the ancient Romans were actually more open about sex and nudity than we are (here in the U.S., anyway).

you can expand the way people thought about nudity to the ancient world in general in fact. The ancient Greek considered the body as equally important as the mind, and therefore everyone should not only put effort in progress of the mind, but effort in progress of the body as well. We all know these images of Greek athletes competing in the Olympics naked. Lesser known is that students were mostly naked too during their education. Even in daily life it was common practice to be nude. Clothes were made in a way that it could be taken of rapidly so that when someone felt their clothes where in the way for what they were doing, they just put if of. This could be for working in the field, dancing, or as already mentioned sports. Women to. It was considered normal and no men was looking full of lust to the women.
Same for ancient Egypt. Some pharao's and their staff at the palace were known to be naked or scarcely clothed. The cult of the sun (=Aton) was something that made nudity something that was the equivalent of which was given by nature, and therefore beauty. And even away from the European lands (but I know less of the ancient history of those parts) in ancient Asia holy man were naked. In ancient Japan public bathing houses were open to both sexes, and so on.
It's amazing to see how a world where nudity was common has come into the present world where nudity is frowned upon.
 

Rey C.

Racing is life... anything else is just waiting.
you can expand the way people thought about nudity to the ancient world in general in fact. The ancient Greek considered the body as equally important as the mind, and therefore everyone should not only put effort in progress of the mind, but effort in progress of the body as well. We all know these images of Greek athletes competing in the Olympics naked. Lesser known is that students were mostly naked too during their education. Even in daily life it was common practice to be nude. Clothes were made in a way that it could be taken of rapidly so that when someone felt their clothes where in the way for what they were doing, they just put if of. This could be for working in the field, dancing, or as already mentioned sports. Women to. It was considered normal and no men was looking full of lust to the women.
Same for ancient Egypt. Some pharao's and their staff at the palace were known to be naked or scarcely clothed. The cult of the sun (=Aton) was something that made nudity something that was the equivalent of which was given by nature, and therefore beauty. And even away from the European lands (but I know less of the ancient history of those parts) in ancient Asia holy man were naked. In ancient Japan public bathing houses were open to both sexes, and so on.
It's amazing to see how a world where nudity was common has come into the present world where nudity is frowned upon.


I agree with you. It's also interesting that the Romans considered the Greeks to be fellow members of the civilized world (being that barbarians, by definition, were those who couldn't speak Latin or Greek), yet the unabashed nudity in Greek culture was frowned upon by the Roman elite. They believed that the Greeks (Athenians) were just a bit too freaky. :D

Like you, I think this is all VERY interesting.
 
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