49ers-Raiders game violence

Everything you say is true. I still think that the NFL is a subtle form of brainwashing. People get conditioned to watch it and they don't dare swim against the tide.

Taking the X-Games seriously? That's an interesting way of putting it. I don't know how seriously I take it, it's just waaay more entertaining to watch. The individual events require more of a gut-check (moto-cross pole vaulting? What twisted genius invented this?), and you don't get Terrell Owens types or that Keyshawn whatever-his-last-name-is types.

One thing I tell every prospective girlfriend that comes along is, I will do whatever she wants to do on Superbowl Sunday.......even if it means watching the Superbowl. :dunno:

What I meant by taking it seriously is this...could you picture someone going nuts over an X-Games competitor? A lot of NFL fans watch for one reason, and that's to cheer on their favorite players. I could be wrong about this, but in the X-Games it seems like a majority of the competetors are interchangable and the fans don't know much about them.

Agree 100%
I sure as hell wouldn't, but I think that it has to do with ignorance, excessive pre game drinking, a gang like mentality that identifies with particular teams and a high percentage of a blue collar workforce who find themselves w/out a job and little hope for the future... it's a dangerous tonic!

Yeah, I think you're right about all of that. To me, football is just a sport and a form of entertainment. To too many others, it is a near-religious experience that they take way too far.

European futbol fans are far worse.

Of course. I've heard the stories about Nazi salutes, urine bombs, riots and the whole nine yards. But I think that passion stems from nationalism more than the actual sport of futbol, right?
 
With all the propaganda brainwashing that the NFL does -- the intricate dance of Christianity and Military hurrah -- it's no wonder why there's so much violence going on. You'd think given the recent Giants fan tragedy that Bay Area sports fans might be a little aware of violent behavior?

I guess that's asking too much.
 

Jagger69

Three lullabies in an ancient tongue
And no i'm not a fan of either, i'm a Rams fan and can't wait foe them to get back to L.A. where they belong!!

Holy shit! You mean I'm not the only L.A. Rams fan left in the world???!!! Last I heard, we were dropping faster than WWI veterans.

Ram fan here. :thumbsup: And they're staying in St. Louis, thank you very much.

Ahh, yes, the LA Rams.... nice memories

Better memories:



Greatest offense in NFL history. I do wish we would go back to the old uniforms, too. They rock. The ones we have now are awful.

what the fuck's wrong with people these days?

4 times in the stomach?
last time I shot a guy at a football game I had enough sense to get him in the chest at least twice.

:1orglaugh I'd rep you if they'd let me!!
 
I'm from Northern California and its a stupid fucking rivalry by two groups of fans that are living in the past!

And no i'm not a fan of either, i'm a Rams fan and can't wait foe them to get back to L.A. where they belong!!

Speaking of living in the past...
 
Or about Football in general? C'mon guys, it's a boring fucking sport and all of you are living in the past. 30 seconds of huddle for a 5 second play? Yeah, that's macho. Primadonna asshole wide receivers making more in 5 years than I'll make in my life?

If I was a billionaire TV mogul I'd expand X-Games and similar formats, find a channel to show them on Sundays, and start whittling away at the NFLs fan base.

Let's watch real atheletes for a change.

Good luck with that. The NFL players and owners just got done arguing about the best way to split $9B+ in revenue amongst themselves, and they haven't lost a single fan yet, despite the fact that apparel, concessions and ticket prices have not gone down a cent.

NFL fans will stay loyal to the NFL no matter what. By my estimation its because most of them are stupid meatheads that don't seem to realize that the league and the players couldn't give less of a shit about the fan base. Keep buying $100 nosebleed seats, and $250 "authentic" jerseys, idiots.
 
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