2014 Corvette Stingray

[saschaxx]

The Vette is excellent value for the money, thats for sure !
I´m myself not such a great car-fan, I prefer motorbikes.

But whenever I need something to go REALLY fast I got ONE choice only, ...thisone : ww.weineck-power.de

And the weineck-cobra has being beaten only ONCE, ...by a superpowered 911. ( over 1000 HP ) .

Mr. Weineck himself construct´s Cobras up to about 1100 cui + more but 1800 DIN-HP, ...wich is above 2000 US-HP.

 

[Rey C.]

Yeah, but it's unfortunately also the quality you get when buying a vette. You can't expect real quality for that price.

It's not noble. It's just power and performance.

It's a misconception that Vettes have quality problems any worse than other sports cars in their price range or above. And if you've actually sat in a newer Vette or ridden in one, you'll know that the fit & finish is actually quite good. Gisele has a very sharp one. She was going to take some footsie pictures for you... until I told her that you were making fun of her car. Now, no footsies for you! :tongue: A couple of years back, Ferrari 458's began catching fire around the world like bongs at a frat party - and we're talking $220K cars! Jags have always had a spotty quality rep. And if you own a Lotus, it's going to break down in some odd way. If it hasn't yet, you just haven't driven it enough. Most exotics and hard edged sports cars have some quality issues, including Porsches, Ferraris and especially Lamborghinis.

One of the reasons I'd choose a Vette over most trailer queen exotics is because you can heavily modify a Corvette with race quality parts, without having to get a second mortgage on your house. And with that 50/50 f/r weight balance, it's damn near a race car that you can drive on the street.

I have been in one and it was great fun. The noise was amazing. The 911 Turbo is my weapon of choice though.

Sweet cars, those are! And they're amazing performers. :thumbsup: But they're knocking on $150K. You can get a well optioned Vette for about $60K.

 

[jlm555]

The new Corvette is awesome!

 

[saschaxx]

Yep it is.

But the prob. in the US is : One is NOT allowed to drive the car above 75mls/hr. As far as I know in some states 60mls/hr. only ... so most ppl. do NOT have any experience about their handlings of the car .

Over here you`re allowed to go 300 mls/hr, ( if your car can make it ) , it´s legal. :angels:

 

[lurkingdirk]

Yep it is.

But the prob. in the US is : One is NOT allowed to drive the car above 75mls/hr. As far as I know in some states 60mls/hr. only ... so most ppl. do NOT have any experience about their handlings of the car .

Over here you`re allowed to go 300 mls/hr, ( if your car can make it ) , it´s legal. :angels:

In the town I live there is a track at a tire manufacturing company. If you sign the forms, and pay a minimal fee (10$), you can go on the track, no speed limits. It's a big track, and people go incredibly fast on it. You can't drive the car fast on the road, but there are possibilities all over the place for driving very fast (legally).

 

[Bloodshot Scott]

American muscle FTW. I'd push the shit out of it.


That said overall it reminds me of the second generation Viper (which isn't a problem for me).

2nd Gen> Viper: https://www.google.com/#hl=en&safe=...44,d.aWc&fp=e43332cbcd29e018&biw=1024&bih=673

 

[Bloodshot Scott]

Although It reminds me quite a bit of the second generation Viper I'd still push the living hell out of that.

So while I've heard the second gen Vipers control like "slop" you could still pocket a good $20 stacks, cop a '93 Northstar Allante and have a couple sick whips.

Or you could just go cop a mids '00s XLR and be even more original:

:drool2:

 

[ArsErotika]

Adding to Dirk's post.

I live near Watkins Glen where can be found almost weekly during race season. Like many tracks around the US, and the world for that matter, they open to clubs during the days when no racing is being held (which is most of them). The fees can be higher (several hundred $), but with that you get instruction as you are working your way up in experience until you're signed off to drive solo. No speed limits, but not actual *racing*... ie door to door competition. There are safety and liability issues to contend with when talking about everyday folks without racing licenses who happen to have street cars begging to be taken off the leash.

To wit... there are a lot more Corvettes than Ferraris, Lambos, etc to be found at these events. Owners of a Vette are far likelier to wring it out than those of the ridiculously expensive and *fragile* exotics. For the price of one Ferrari, you can afford to own a new C6, modify it with all sorts of safety and go-fast parts (keeping it street legal of course... there's commuting to do), and risk bending, breaking, or wadding it up... and still have money left to fix it or replace it.

If I were to buy a stupid fast car, it would be a Vette.



(Though I'd buy a Lotus Elise or Exige before that, simply for the featherweight handling, which I enjoy more. But my garage would have room for both cars. Oh yes.)

In the town I live there is a track at a tire manufacturing company. If you sign the forms, and pay a minimal fee (10$), you can go on the track, no speed limits. It's a big track, and people go incredibly fast on it. You can't drive the car fast on the road, but there are possibilities all over the place for driving very fast (legally).

 

[mokbel69]

I'm not the car nut I used to be, but for a long time a corvette was a car I wanted. There aren't too many on the roads over here as it's expensive to get them converted to Right Hand Drive. Going by GM's press and the styling of the car, seems they are going more for international markets so will be interesting to see if they make a right hand drive version. But I could never afford one anyway unless I won lotto so even if they made a RHD version and I could get one imported, it no longer looks like a corvette so I don't know if I would buy one. It's a bit of Ferrari, Nissan GTR and Dodge Viper rolled into one.

 

[saschaxx]

@ lurkingdirk :

It´s no problem in Germany to find a race-track. For example : The *Nürburgring* is open for anyone ...
If you made the Nürburgring 40 or 50 x , you should be getting better. This means, from now on you know the Nürburgring, ...and maybe another 2 or 3 racetracks. That´s all.
But anyway one should have control over the car in normal AND dangerous traffic situations, goin superslow or superfast . Why do you think ppl. come over here with Bentley´s , Lambo´s , Porsches, BMW´s from England, Sweden, Holland ....etc. just to find a free + open road. ( If we don´t have stop+go-bullshit ) .

 

[aesopRock]

2/10 Would not drive.

 

[The~Lone~Ranger]

http://www.complex.com/rides/2013/0...olet-corvette-stingray-has-arrived/corvette-2

I like it, much prefer the gunmetal? over the red. Dash looks nothing spectacular tho.

What's the price for it?



I like the style of the Lamborghini Aventador and the Koenigsegg Agera R. Then, there's the Ariel Atom which looks like a road worthy F1 car, hate the shape of Bugatti Veyron.

http://www.boldride.com/ride/2012/dmc-lamborghini-aventador-lp900-sv
http://www.koenigsegg.com/models/agera-r/

GT-R would probably be my car of choice if I had that much spare cash, even if I won Euro lottery, thats the most I would spend on a car. £74,480 list price for spring 2013.

 

[Rey C.]

Yep it is.

But the prob. in the US is : One is NOT allowed to drive the car above 75mls/hr. As far as I know in some states 60mls/hr. only ... so most ppl. do NOT have any experience about their handlings of the car .

Over here you`re allowed to go 300 mls/hr, ( if your car can make it ) , it´s legal. :angels:

Considering that most Americans *think* that they're better drivers than they actually are, it's probably a good thing that our speed limits top out at 70-75mph in most states. I've had high performance cars since I was a kid. And being a racing fan since I was about 6, somehow, I thought that I was a great driver. I didn't find out just how many (really) bad habits I had until I took a high performance driving course years ago. When I go to my local road course, the absolute funniest/worse drivers are the guys who show up with high performance cars (Porsches, Vettes, Ferraris, BMW M series, etc.) and cook the tires and brakes going into turns. Just to prove a point, one instructor took a 300 hp WRX STI out during a session and just whipped the crap out of a field full of cars that had nearly twice the horsepower. No different than a high dollar rifle (say a Weatherby with a Leupold scope), a car can't drive itself. The amazing performance only shows itself when it's in the hands of a skilled owner/driver. Put Sebastian Vettel or Lewis Hamilton in a bone stock Corvette and me in a race-prepped Porsche 911 Turbo and they'd beat my ass so bad on any road course that it wouldn't be funny. But I could beat both of them up, so nobody would ever hear about it!

If I was in the market for another high performance car, this new Vette is the one I'd go for (although I really do hate those taillights!). Massive engine torque, to launch you out of corners. Fantastic brakes, that won't fade after one or two laps. And a solid suspension, that will keep you nice & flat and pulling big G's. All that for about $54K (for a base model). :drool2:

And yeah, a lap or ten of the Nürburgring is every gearhead's dream.

 

[Rey C.]

i find corvettes too cliche. growing up it was about those, porsches, and lamborghini.

i kinda like the latter 2 above all. but id much rather own a delorean. then an 80s porsche, then an 80s lamb, then.. eh..

If Blue Countach ever comes back here, ask him how much it costs him to maintain his car. Even if/when you can find good deals on older performance cars, that's where they eat your lunch. I found a "good deal" on a mid 80's Ferrari 308 GTS (the "Magnum P.I." Ferrari) years ago. That model (4 valves and fuel injected) up through the 348 is my favorite modern Ferrari. $20 grand made it seem like a steal. Then I started looking into what needed to be done to it. It was right at needing 30K mile service - and it wasn't something that my regular mechanic could accomplish. I checked with the nearest Ferrari dealer and the estimate came out to about $20K. So $20K for the car and another $20K to have it serviced! Just replacing the clutch was $4K! :eek: So you'd sink $40K into a (at that time) 20 year old car that only had about 230hp and *might* (on a good day) be worth about $35K to $50K. When my WRX was bone stock it had that much horsepower - now it has about 300hp. But let's face it, who buys a Ferrari for the horsepower? People buy those cars (and others, like the ones you're talking about) for the Prancing Horse badge on the front. They are sweet! But I wouldn't set my retirement back 5 years to own one.

 

[saschaxx]

Considering that most Americans *think* that they're better drivers than they actually are, it's probably a good thing that our speed limits top out at 70-75mph in most states. I've had high performance cars since I was a kid. And being a racing fan since I was about 6, somehow, I thought that I was a great driver. I didn't find out just how many (really) bad habits I had until I took a high performance driving course years ago. When I go to my local road course, the absolute funniest/worse drivers are the guys who show up with high performance cars (Porsches, Vettes, Ferraris, BMW M series, etc.) and cook the tires and brakes going into turns. Just to prove a point, one instructor took a 300 hp WRX STI out during a session and just whipped the crap out of a field full of cars that had nearly twice the horsepower. No different than a high dollar rifle (say a Weatherby with a Leupold scope), a car can't drive itself. The amazing performance only shows itself when it's in the hands of a skilled owner/driver. Put Sebastian Vettel or Lewis Hamilton in a bone stock Corvette and me in a race-prepped Porsche 911 Turbo and they'd beat my ass so bad on any road course that it wouldn't be funny. But I could beat both of them up, so nobody would ever hear about it!

If I was in the market for another high performance car, this new Vette is the one I'd go for (although I really do hate those taillights!). Massive engine torque, to launch you out of corners. Fantastic brakes, that won't fade after one or two laps. And a solid suspension, that will keep you nice & flat and pulling big G's. All that for about $54K (for a base model). :drool2:

And yeah, a lap or ten of the Nürburgring is every gearhead's dream.

@Rey C. You´re not so wrong man .... A *high performance driving course * should be obligate for anyone, NOT ONLY for drivers in the US , while driving a high-performance sportscar . That should be a MUST . I had 2 of them, one for bikes, one for cars . Both on the Nürburgring, I don´t live very far from it . Well, that makes you learn a LOT .... and you meet a lot of very interesting ppl. ...like Mr. Weineck for example , Walter Röhrl ...etc.
This time I owned a Mercedes 450 SEC , slightly modified. I NEVER believed what one is able to do with that heavy ol cow ...I was much more interested in my bike , I knew it´s not slow but I still learned a LOT about it .
And to make a main-maintenence on a Ferrari or Lambo, ....yep, its also here almost the price of a *normal* car ..sometimes more.