2012 Ford Mustang Boss 302 - Black Key or Red Key?

[Hot Mega]

Change your PCM by switching keys.:clap: That said, I'd probably wait for a couple of years to own one...to save myself allot of

You hold two keys: One has a black Boss logo, the other red: Either will start your 2012 Mustang Boss 302. Slide the all-black key into the lock cylinder, give it a twist and you’re treated to 444 ponies worth of smooth, streetable driving joy. Or choose red – the TracKey – and you have a competition-ready track car.

A joint project between Mustang engineers and Ford Racing, TracKey adds a second set of powertrain control module (PCM) software to a customer’s Mustang Boss 302, activated by a specially programmed vehicle key. When invoked by TracKey, the new TracMode software alters more than 200 engine management parameters, increasing low-end torque and turning the potent but well-mannered stock Boss into a competition-ready track car. Remove TracKey and start Boss with the standard key, and all factory engine settings are restored for a comfortable drive home from the course.

http://www.topspeed.com/cars/ford/2012-ford-mustang-boss-302-ar94925.html

 

[Not Sure]

A stock GT already has over 400 horsepower and is over 10 grand less. No thanks.

 

[Hot Mega]

A stock GT already has over 400 horsepower and is over 10 grand less. No thanks.

Well, if you know anything about Mustangs (or car enthusiasm in general) you'd know that when you decide to buy a Boss Mustang, you're not just buying it for it's additional performance premium.

I mean, how many average drivers of a 400 HP car are actually going to use that performance in a way that makes a difference anyway?

 

[Not Sure]

Well, if you know anything about Mustangs (or car enthusiasm in general) you'd know that when you decide to buy a Boss Mustang, you're not just buying it for it's additional performance premium.

I mean, how many average drivers of a 400 HP car are actually going to use that performance in a way that makes a difference anyway?

I use the 290hp I got now quite nicely, thank you. I had a '99 GT that had 260hp. I used to think that was a lot of power.

 

[Hot Mega]

I use the 290hp I got now quite nicely, thank you. I had a '99 GT that had 260hp. I used to think that was a lot of power.

What? To get you from one stop light to the next in 100ths of seconds quicker?

My point is, most individuals who buy into limited production cars do so more so for the exclusivity than the performance.

A guy thinking about how much money he can save by buying a GT instead of a Cobra, Saleen, Boss, Steeda, Roush, etc., etc., frankly isn't the guy they're targeting to sell those to.:2 cents:

 

[Not Sure]

What? To get you from one stop light to the next in 100ths of seconds quicker?

My point is, most individuals who buy into limited production cars do so more so for the exclusivity than the performance.

A guy thinking about how much money he can save by buying a GT instead of a Cobra, Saleen, Boss, Steeda, Roush, etc., etc., frankly isn't they guy they're targeting to sell those to.:2 cents:

I know why people buy these cars. I was only suggesting that for myself I would rather have the performance per dollar value of the GT. If they put a 440hp Boss 302 out when the 4.6 was still in the GT and was only pushing out a mere 300 hp I might have a different opinion.

As for needing 300 horses, if you ever drive on the freeways in Southern California you will be more than glad to have the power to actually be able to get on. They kinda drive like maniacs around here.

 

[Hot Mega]

I know why people buy these cars. I was only suggesting that for myself I would rather have the performance per dollar value of the GT. If they put a 440hp Boss 302 out when the 4.6 was still in the GT and was only pushing out a mere 300 hp I might have a different opinion.

As for needing 300 horses, if you ever drive on the freeways in Southern California you will be more than glad to have the power to actually be able to get on. They kinda drive like maniacs around here.

That's just it...most of the people who are going to buy a R-Code Cobra, Boss, etc. are not using them to haul ass up and down the FWY to the plant everyday. And they aren't buying them worrying about a dollar value either as your GT is only going to go down in value...many of these cars go down-up in value.:2 cents:

 

[Facetious]

'70 Boss 302 or no Ford at all.

Well . . maybe the '67 427 GT 500.

 

[E-Ann-Hilden]

Still a fan of the upcoming Camaro Z28, but the Mustang GT is a great deal performance wise. It is shame that they gave the still slightly better BMW M3 the nod in the comparison in a few auto mags. Dollar for Dollar it is a great car!

 

[Hot Mega]

'70 Boss 302 or no Ford at all.

Well . . maybe the '67 427 GT 500.

^^ Racist.:yinyang:

 

[Facetious]

I'm just partial toward non electronic muscle cars of the day . . real vinyl, real steel . . . cars that an EMP weapon couldn't knock out. :glugglug:

 

[meesterperfect]

'70 Boss 302 or no Ford at all.

Well . . maybe the '67 427 GT 500.

pics of both:

i always said if youre gonna drive a car might as well drive a mustang.

Ive had 2 in my life.
a 66 fastback but with a v6.......but it looked awesome.
and a 95gt- 5spd, black on black interior(not charcoal), 98 17inch cobra rims and a custom paint job metallic red with triple clearcoat.
real beauty, i loved that car.
looked just like this one:
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl...t:429,r:6,s:201&tx=137&ty=81&biw=1280&bih=961

 

[meesterperfect]

this thread got me looking at pics of current mustangs, camaros and challengers.
i like the challenger best
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_6wgT0BQgSag/Ssy3ThmI4YI/AAAAAAAABO8/meruxlZ5h-Q/100_1058.JPG

 

[Facetious]

this thread got me looking at pics of current mustangs, camaros and challengers.
i like the challenger best
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_6wgT0BQgSag/Ssy3ThmI4YI/AAAAAAAABO8/meruxlZ5h-Q/100_1058.JPG

I just saw a dealer advertisement on TV earlier . . $10,000 off the sticker price of any Challenger . . . still, I'd much rather go the classic car route as they can usually be repaired by a relative layperson whereas with electronic cars, that isn't the case.

Nice '66 you had there . .I vaguely remember my eldest brother's metallic dk green 66 FB GT.

 

[BioDefenseGrad]

I'd like to see buick come out with the new grand national rear or awd. Perhaps with a reworked and turbocharged version of the Camaro 2lt bored out to 3.8 liters for tradition.

If they could keep it under 40k it would sell and give buick some extra cache.

 

[ArsErotika]

I love everything about the new breed of muscle cars... except all the mass. I realize that all cars nowadays have bloated due to safety requirements. But a performance car, especially a muscle car, is supposed to be able to get out of its own way. And hauling around 4,000+ pounds is no way to go about it. Granted, you put several hundred HP and Torque and it will move, and in a hurry. But changing direction becomes a real adventure. Never mind stopping. I know they're doing a decent enough job given all the fat, but an all around *driving* enthusiast is going to want the car to work in all areas, not just a straight line. That said, I still think they're damn sweet. The looks, the sound, the raw power. What's not to love?

 

[Hot Mega]

I love everything about the new breed of muscle cars... except all the mass. I realize that all cars nowadays have bloated due to safety requirements. But a performance car, especially a muscle car, is supposed to be able to get out of its own way. And hauling around 4,000+ pounds is no way to go about it. Granted, you put several hundred HP and Torque and it will move, and in a hurry. But changing direction becomes a real adventure. Never mind stopping. I know they're doing a decent enough job given all the fat, but an all around *driving* enthusiast is going to want the car to work in all areas, not just a straight line. That said, I still think they're damn sweet. The looks, the sound, the raw power. What's not to love?

That's why Ford offers productions like the R-Code Cobras, FR500xxx, etc. Also, since there are so many performance versions of the Mustang made by it's tuner associates that Ford also has to be careful not to compete with them per se. I would say mainly Saleen as they are an actual OEM....

I'd like to see buick come out with the new grand national rear or awd. Perhaps with a reworked and turbocharged version of the Camaro 2lt bored out to 3.8 liters for tradition.

If they could keep it under 40k it would sell and give buick some extra cache.

If Buick came out with another GNx I would buy it on the spot. Grand Natonal...meh.

 

[georges]

I would rather get an original 302 boss from 1969 or 1970 or if not a ford, a 1968-1969 cougar xr7 eliminator with gt e package and the 427ci side oiler/428 ci scj engines

 

[shimmy2]

i would rather ride my bike than drive a GM product

 

[Rey C.]

I would rather get an original 302 boss from 1969 or 1970 or if not a ford, a 1968-1969 cougar xr7 eliminator with gt e package and the 427ci side oiler/428 ci scj engines

An original Mustang Boss 302? Wow! How much does FreeOnes pay moderators anyway?! You fellows are livin'
large! I'm not sure if you can find an original Boss 302 (1969-70) for less than $100K. A few years ago, a pair of them sold for over $500K. I mean, there were less than 10,000 of them originally built... although I've read that there are over 20,000 of them in existence now. You really can't compare a modern mass produced car (even a specialty model) to what is essentially a museum piece. I'd rather have an original Series 1 E-type than a modern XK8. But like with the Boss 302, I'm a few hundred thousand $ short so I had to settle for the XK8... until I get hired by FreeOnes, that is. Then I might go for a Series 1 and an XJ-220! :1orglaugh

I believe this new Boss is priced somewhere around $40K? And although I'm not a huge fan of Mustangs or Camaros, I've read nothing but good things about this latest offering from Ford. Sure, you could buy a more standard model and maybe do the mods yourself. But in doing so, you'll pretty much void the warranty and you also take the chance that the value will be negatively affected. A lot of people shy away from heavily modified cars (myself included).

From reading the OP, it sounds like you can get a streetable car with one key and a (real) track day car with the other. For that money, I think that's pretty damn impressive. Good job, Ford! :clap: