2010/2011 NCAA Football Thread

[Hot Mega]

I guess you're missing my point. No one cares (except maybe you and other blue and gold fans). Back in the '40s, Army was a college football powerhouse. It isn't relevant today. Sorry, just the way it is.

What have you done for me lately? :dunno:

I'm not missing any point...you're just arguing from selective reasoning.

You point about Army would be pertinent if UM spent the years since the '40s with the same level of success (or lack thereof) as Army.

What have we done "lately"? Again, prior to hiring RR UM had the longest bowl streak in college football and had just beaten UF with the "mighty" Tebow ('08).:tongue: No other program could claim that bowl streak but UM. The last time prior to UM not going to a bowl was when the B10 stopped us in only allowing the league champ to a bowl irrespective of what the other programs accomplished. Fortunately that was changed in the late 70s.

I understand many are frothing at the mouth to try and kick the best college program in history while we are down ...But you're really pissing in the wind, swimming up stream and whatever else colloquialisms there are for fucking yourself in the process of trying to make a point. :o

 

[Jagger69]

I'm not missing any point...you're just arguing from selective reasoning.

You point about Army would be pertinent if UM spent the years since the '40s with the same level of success (or lack thereof) as Army.

What have we done "lately"? Again, prior to hiring RR UM had the longest bowl streak in college football and had just beaten UF with the "mighty" Tebow. No other program could claim that bowl streak but UM. The last time prior to UM not going to a bowl was when the B10 only allowed the league champ to a bowl irrespective of what the other programs accomplished.

I understand many are frothing at the mouth to try and kick the best college program in history while we are down ...But you're really pissing in the wind, swimming up stream and whatever else colloquialisms there are for fucking yourself in the process of trying to make a point. :o

You get me totally wrong, 'Mega. I have no particular reason to dog Michigan. I neither love nor hate them....I'm totally indifferent actually.

However, you set yourself up for criticism when you start thumping your chest about a school that has accomplished very little in recent years. I'm a Miami fan (and a Texas and Missouri fan for the record) and I have kept a really low profile about the Hurricanes the past few years. Why? Because to do otherwise would have made me appear to be a total shill....which is what you are beginning to resemble unfortunately.

I originally posted in response to the discourse between you and BI because I thought maybe we could have some lighthearted fun throwing some darts at each other during the offseason. I guess I was wrong.

Good luck to your Wolverines this upcoming season. :glugglug:

 

[Hot Mega]

You get me totally wrong, 'Mega. I have no particular reason to dog Michigan. I neither love nor hate them....I'm totally indifferent actually.

However, you set yourself up for criticism when you start thumping your chest about a school that has accomplished very little in recent years. I'm a Miami fan (and a Texas and Missouri fan for the record) and I have kept a really low profile about the Hurricanes the past few years. Why? Because to do otherwise would have made me appear to be a total shill....which is what you are beginning to resemble unfortunately.

I originally posted in response to the discourse between you and BI because I thought maybe we could have some lighthearted fun throwing some darts at each other during the offseason. I guess I was wrong.

Good luck to your Wolverines this upcoming season. :glugglug:

Thanks but don't get me wrong it is all lighthearted. Many people confuse the way I may convey a point with some notion of seriousness or bitterness.

It's all in fun..I wasn't thumping my chest over what UM has accomplished in the last 2 seasons but I won't stand for a Suckeye trying to mob my beloved university just because they've won recently. In that case, I just go to the facts and record book to back him off....

But c'mon Jag....you have to know when a Wolverine is attacked they will defend with the ferocity of...well, a Wolverine.:o

Gulo-Gulo:glugglug:

 

[lurkingdirk]

I think we should all meet in a neutral, college football free zone, and drink beer together.

I'd recommend anywhere in Michigan.



Seriously. I'm a Notre Dame fan. I've got so much reason to brag.

 

[smoknn]

And this is the same team that nearly lost to a backup freshman QB.

But, yes, Alabama will be really really good next year.

nearly...nearly....we nearly lost to tenn....no other team was ever close bama ruled in 2009..i see nothing in the way in 2010...and nearly only matters in horseshoes or bombs:wave2:

 

[Jagger69]

Thanks but don't get me wrong it is all lighthearted. Many people confuse the way I may convey a point with some notion of seriousness or bitterness.

It's all in fun..I wasn't thumping my chest over what UM has accomplished in the last 2 seasons but I won't stand for a Suckeye trying to mob my beloved university just because they've won recently. In that case, I just go to the facts and record book to back him off....

But c'mon Jag....you have to know when a Wolverine is attacked they will defend with the ferocity of...well, a Wolverine.:o

Gulo-Gulo:glugglug:

Fair enough. I've had enough fun though....and not being a Big 10 guy (yet at least....wait until Mizzou joins you guys!) I think I'll let BI carry the anti-Wolverine ball for now. He's way more qualified than I am anyway.

Besides, I'll be trading barbs with Will soon enough so I guess I should put my Big 12 hat back on. The 'Horns should be tough again this year and OU without Bradford? Not sure what they will bring but I'm sure they'll be tough. I don't see any other serious threat to our dominance of the Big 12 South so it should be at least another major BCS invite for my beloved Longhorns again this year. Hook 'em!!! (Don't look now but who is number 2 on your all-time list...and gaining? )

Have a good weekend. :glugglug:

 

[Baill Inneraora]

UM STILL has the most all time wins (877) and the highest winning percentage (0.735) in college football history.
:hatsoff:

Rome racked up a lot of wins BC. They had solid home victory against Carthage and impressive road victories against the Celts in Gaul, the Britons and the Egyptians.

Much like how UM ran up impressive victories in the 1800’s against teams like Albion, the Detroit Athletic Club, Racine, Hillsdale and Kalamazoo.

However, I don't think anyone would argue that Italy won WWII based on what they did BC.

 

[Hot Mega]

Rome racked up a lot of wins BC. They had solid home victory against Carthage and impressive road victories against the Celts in Gaul, the Britons and the Egyptians.

Much like how UM ran up impressive victories in the 1800’s against teams like Albion, the Detroit Athletic Club, Racine, Hillsdale and Kalamazoo.

However, I don't think anyone would argue that Italy won WWII based on what they did BC.

Again, that would be a point if UM hadn't gone on by today's standards and claimed a national championship, had the longest bowl streak until very recently, still competed to go to BCS bowls, beat programs OSU can't beat (SEC), etc.

This decade OSU has won 8 games, the previous decade we won 7 and tied 1..since 1980 we've won 15 to OSU's 14. In that time we've won a 1 national title OSU has won 1. So the whole ancient history angle just doesn't hold water. Sorry.:wave2:

 

[Baill Inneraora]

Again, that would be a point if UM hadn't gone on by today's standards and claimed a national championship, had the longest bowl streak until very recently, still competed to go to BCS bowls, beat programs OSU can't beat (SEC), etc.

This decade OSU has won 8 games, the previous decade we won 7 and tied 1..since 1980 we've won 15 to OSU's 14. In that time we've won a 1 national title OSU has won 1. So the whole ancient history angle just doesn't hold water. Sorry.:wave2:

That was the one where you split the election with Nebraska
instead of settling on the field, right?


OSU 5-3 in BCS games

UM: 1-3 in BCS games and hasn't won since the 2000 Orange Bowl

 

[Hot Mega]

That was the one where you split the election with Nebraska
instead of settling on the field, right?

There have been several teams that have finished with undefeated seasons who didn't play for the BCS title since so it STILL isn't settled on the field per se.

In '97 "Judgement Day" weekend...UM was slaughtering No. 2 PSU 34-8 in Happy Valley while Nebraska was illegally kicking a football to avoid being upset by Missouri.

The only reason UM wasn't unanimous in both polls at the end of the Bowls was because two SEC jokers ("Feel" Fulmer and Danny Sheridan) miraculously voted UM 4th in the coach's poll in order to help Nebraska get to No. 1 in that poll.

They were so far behind in points on both polls (understandably so) that it took shenanigans for them to be voted 1 in the coach's poll.

So they cheated to stay unbeaten and had to be cheated for (or at minimum have people suspend reason and logic) in order to get their share of that title.:hatsoff:

 

[CunningStunts]

nearly...nearly....we nearly lost to tenn....no other team was ever close bama ruled in 2009..i see nothing in the way in 2010...and nearly only matters in horseshoes or bombs:wave2:

Dude, please don't make statements like that... if you simply take a look at Bama's schedule in 10, you will see that it's going to be tough sledding. I went to UA and as big a fan as anyone, but repeating is VERY hard to do, especially in the SEC.

 

[titsrock]

I'd love to put my schlong on the table in between this OSU/UM smack talk...

But my team sucks :o ...until proven otherwise :weeping:

 

[D-rock]

One thing I do have to hand it to universities that were great way in the past is the fact they were good in a era where collegiate sports weren't regarded as a business practically or where the emphasis was placed on them like now.

Usually being good now just means one school recruits better than another or ends up cheating and getting away with it better than the others.

If all schools made players have the standards they need to meat at a place like Army or, and I grudgingly say this, Notre Dame, how well do you think they would do?

 

[titsrock]

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Dude. That's America in a nutshell. If you're not cheating, you're not gettin' ahead in life...that really ougtta be printed on dollar bills :yesyes:

 

[smoknn]

Dude, please don't make statements like that... if you simply take a look at Bama's schedule in 10, you will see that it's going to be tough sledding. I went to UA and as big a fan as anyone, but repeating is VERY hard to do, especially in the SEC.

im the guy who picked texas to win it all in 2009...i made this pick in sept...wrong was never so sweet...bama has got more talent on offence then i ever seen them have..and we know the defence is there..it always is...we may not be #1..but we gunna have something to say about who is :thumbsup:

 

[YumiYumi_1988]

I have reason to believe that Michigan State is 'closer' right now than Michigan.

 

[smoknn]

The latest issue of Sporting News has its predictions for next year.

Their Top 10:
1) Alabama - Julio Jones will make All America, then leave for the 2011 draft; Alabama will still have one of the top three defenses in the SEC; Mark Ingram will not post the numbers to repeat as the Heisman winner.
Schedule rating: 5/5 - Penn State visits in September, and the SEC rotation also brings in Florida.

2) Oregon - Oregon will rank No. 1 in total offense among BCS teams; Chip Kelly will become the next $4 million/year coach; Oregon will run the table in the Pac-10.
Schedule rating: 2/5 - Ducks visit Tennessee on 9/11 and the Pac-10 schedule sets up well.

3) Ohio State - Ohio State will still have the best defense in the Big Ten; Terrelle Pryor will become a solid passer through the offseason; Ohio State will return to the BCS Championship game...and lose again.
Schedule rating: 3/5 - A win at home against Miami could help Ohio State in the computer polls, as will games against Wisconsin, Iowa, and Penn State.

4) Boise State - The Broncos will beat Virginia Tech in October; Kellen Moore will be invited to NYC as a Heisman finalist; Boise will go undefeated in the WAC.
Schedule rating: 1/5 - Beating Virginia Tech in D.C. and Oregon State at home combined with an undefeated season could put them in the national championship game.

5) Georgia Tech - Josh Nesbitt will improve as a thrower and become the focal point of the offense as well as part of the Heisman trophy conversation; Georgia Tech will win the ACC again, and Paul Johnson will be hired away by an elite BCS school; Georgia Tech will again finish with a better record than Georgia.
Schedule rating: 4/5 - Georgia Tech hasnt separated itself enough from the rest of the ACC to expect upper-tier league games to be gimmies, and nonconference road games against Kansas and Georgia will be tough.

6) Miami - Jacory Harris will play all of 2010 the way he played the first half of 2009; Miami will feature its most complete defense since 2002; An NFL team will pursue Randy Shannon as its next head coach after the 2010season.
Schedule rating: 5/5 - A prove-it year for Randy Shannon includes games against Ohio State and Pitt along with games against the top half of the ACC.

7) Florida - The Gators will throw better than they ever have under Urban Meyer, and QB John Brantley will be first-team All-SEC; Florida will take a step back on defense with key personnel losses and the departure of defensive coordinatior Charlie Strong; If Steve Addazio coaches the Gators in 2010, they will lose three games in the regular season
Schedule rating: 2/5 - The Gators have to travel to Tuscaloosa, but the nonconference schedule will be awful until Florida State truly rebounds.

8) TCU - TCU's defense will rank among the top three in the nation; RB Matthew Tucker and QB Andy Dalton will form the MWC's most dangerous duo; TCU will roll through the Mountain West but fall short of a BCS bowl.
Schedule rating: 1/5 - Schedule was incomplete as of press time. If TCU can nail down a game with Oregon State, it will improve an awful nonconference schedule that includes SMU and Baylor.

9) Nebraska - Cody Green will win the starting QB job from Zac Lee in spring practice; The Huskers will win the Big 12; DT Jared Crick will follow the lead of Ndamukong Suh and become the most dominant player in the Big 12.
Schedule rating: 1/5 - Texas visits Lincoln and Oklahoma is off the schedule. Their toughest nonconference test is a trip to Washington.

10) Wisconsin - The Badgers will make power football cool again; QB Scott Tolzien will be the nation's bestt game manager; Chris Borlan is the Big Ten's next star linebacker.
Schedule rating: 2/5 - Bret Bielema's best team yet gets UNLV, San Jose State, Arizona State and Austin Peay in nonconference play and a Big Ten schedule with no game against Penn State.

#1 boise and v. tech play in sept #2 boise is not gunna outcoach anyone in that game..and may get exsposed as a team that is much better in the wac...boise has had some good coaching...to go along with a lot of luck..and a few good players...but..first game..v,tech...sooo not a cakewalk

 

[titsrock]

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smoknn, not sure where you dug up that post from, but, given all the turmoil at Oregon, do you really think they are still the #2 team in the nation? Ahead of Ohio State, a team they were soundly beaten by?

Given that VaTech isn't ranked on this list, and who knows if they are even in the Top 25, when Boise State beats them, I'm sure you'll be quick with the 'ol "Well, Virginia Tech really isn't any good this year..."

 

[Baill Inneraora]

At the pub last night, they had on the Miss America pagent.

We all booed when the Michigan tramp was on.

On another note.


Michigan to release response to NCAA

Buzz up! 268 PrintCHICAGO (AP)—Michigan will publicly release its response to NCAA allegations of major rules violations against coach Rich Rodriguez next week.

Athletic director David Brandon says there will be “total transparency” and that any school-imposed sanctions will be revealed in the report, which will be sent to the NCAA on May 24 and made public the following day.

Brandon spoke Monday in Chicago, where he was attending Big Ten meetings this week.

The NCAA said in February that Rodriguez “failed to promote an atmosphere of compliance within the football program.” It also said he didn’t track what his staff was doing or make sure his players were following NCAA rules, particularly those limiting the time spent on practice and football-related activities.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=ap-michigan-ncaa


How bad are they that they cheat and STILL only finish 8-16?

 

[smoknn]

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smoknn, not sure where you dug up that post from, but, given all the turmoil at Oregon, do you really think they are still the #2 team in the nation? Ahead of Ohio State, a team they were soundly beaten by?

Given that VaTech isn't ranked on this list, and who knows if they are even in the Top 25, when Boise State beats them, I'm sure you'll be quick with the 'ol "Well, Virginia Tech really isn't any good this year..."

are you kidding?? thats not my list..i was just pointing out v tech and boise dont play in oct. they play in sept and this may be the first team they played in years..coaching is not gunna win that game..the better team is going to win .i think v tech will be ready to play this game...something oregon and tcu wasnt last year:wave2: