1 year later, Obama still blames bush

Rivera is a relief/closer not a starter. He has a role where his skill is crafted for...Apples and oranges.:2 cents:


Yeah he is a closer but he will get called out of the pen in a moments notice if the Yanks are up by 1 or even lose the lead (especially in the playoffs) and this situation arises.

But choose another pitcher, if it makes you feel better.


And Obama sought the job. He kept saying it was the worst economy in 70 years. So he asked for and received the situation. He didn't inherit shit!
 
Yeah he is a closer but he will get called out of the pen in a moments notice if the Yanks are up by 1 or even lose the lead (especially in the playoffs) and this situation arises.

But choose another pitcher, if it makes you feel better.

Let me try it again. The pitcher analogy doesn't apply for obvious reasons.


And Obama sought the job. He kept saying it was the worst economy in 70 years. So he asked for and received the situation. He didn't inherit shit!

Inherit...(2nd definition)

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/inherit
 
Let me try it again. The pitcher analogy doesn't apply for obvious reasons.

Oh it applies very well thank you. Mainly because any athlete with an ounce of competitive spirit or pride would never make such a ridiculous statement.

Oh and BTW. Mariano Rivera sought the job as well.










How timely. I am very pleased that this little squabble made you rush to find a definition to try and buttress your argument.

Most inheritances fall into people's laps. And by most reasonable definitions it is a challenge that Obama has to tackle. Not an inheritance per se, being that he so wanted the task. That is about as convincing, unbiased and engraved in stone as a wiki entry.

God! I can't wait for November. :1orglaugh
 
Oh it applies very well thank you. Mainly because any athlete with an ounce of competitive spirit or pride would never make such a ridiculous statement.

Oh and BTW. Mariano Rivera sought the job as well.



How timely. I am very pleased that this little squabble made you rush to find a definition to try and buttress your argument.

Most inheritances fall into people's laps. And by most reasonable definitions it is a challenge that Obama has to tackle. Not an inheritance per se, being that he so wanted the task. That is about as convincing, unbiased and engraved in stone as a wiki entry.

God! I can't wait for November. :1orglaugh

I know the deifinition but wasn't sure you did....So I provided one for you.

But I can see you are now beyond the point of backing up your claims now and just engaging the gymnastics.
 
I know the deifinition but wasn't sure you did....So I provided one for you.

But I can see you are now beyond the point of backing up your claims now and just engaging the gymnastics.

I have been known to tackle the issue of inheritances once or twice in my life.

:rofl:
 
A few comments:

-It is a cold day (at least in the North East), so everyone is posting!

-Mike - You're absolutely right regarding Supply Side. I re-read and the way I presented it was a mistake.

-Mike - Stop teasing Mega. I know you're just poking him to see what he will say next.

-Blue - I'm Mets Fan, but I LOVE your Mariano analogy.

-Mega - Wow, there is no reasoning with you. My recommendation for you is to quit while you're behind. (I have a bet that you will reply and argue this email. So, please do ...I will be $20 richer. If you do, you'll only make the people who enjoy antagonizing you happy though.)

Well, I have a customer coming in 1/2 hour. :)
 
One year later and Bush's followers are still brainwashed morons.

hahahaha. no kidding.

And just for the record, we're dealing with a number of messes that will take decades to fix. :glugglug:
Sit back and have a beer, my friends. One year? People will keep blaming him for a hell of a lot longer than one year.

Also, in case you haven't noticed, Reagan has been out of office for 21 years, yet his idiocy continues to make our lives worse. His radical pet neocon Scalia just ruled that corporations have feelings too.

Until the radical neocons Roberts and Alito are retired or dead, I will continue to blame Bush for every back-assward decision the SC hands down.
 
A few comments:

-It is a cold day (at least in the North East), so everyone is posting!

-Mike - You're absolutely right regarding Supply Side. I re-read and the way I presented it was a mistake.

-Mike - Stop teasing Mega. I know you're just poking him to see what he will say next.

-Blue - I'm Mets Fan, but I LOVE your Mariano analogy.

-Mega - Wow, there is no reasoning with you. My recommendation for you is to quit while you're behind. (I have a bet that you will reply and argue this email. So, please do ...I will be $20 richer. If you do, you'll only make the people who enjoy antagonizing you happy though.)

Well, I have a customer coming in 1/2 hour. :)


Will do Monica.

It is funny to see people post that one side is completely wrong or the other side is. I like your quote about "darkness".

Those who think Bush/Reagan are the only "idiots" overlook Clinton/Obama's idiocy as well.

The are storm troopers or a political system. Speak out again Obama, you must be a Bush supporter. Speak out against Bush, you must be an Obama supporter.

Mindless.
 
A few comments:

-It is a cold day (at least in the North East), so everyone is posting!

-Mike - You're absolutely right regarding Supply Side. I re-read and the way I presented it was a mistake.

-Mike - Stop teasing Mega. I know you're just poking him to see what he will say next.

-Blue - I'm Mets Fan, but I LOVE your Mariano analogy.

-Mega - Wow, there is no reasoning with you. My recommendation for you is to quit while you're behind. (I have a bet that you will reply and argue this email. So, please do ...I will be $20 richer. If you do, you'll only make the people who enjoy antagonizing you happy though.)

Well, I have a customer coming in 1/2 hour. :)


It is interesting that the thinking of this post is not isolated to the originator.

http://www.kurtschemers.com/obama-still-targeting-bush

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0209/19208.html

This is an interesting post on how Obama is pointing the finger and adding some to the pile as well.

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/1593150/obama_blames_bush_for_deficits.html

Some other ones:

This one points out that Obama was in office before 2009, just not as president (and has the sound bites of him blaming Bush)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBp3ZpjyseA

A Faux News Clip (barf!)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dx9CkVqVzq4

ABC Clip - He actually likens himself to Bush
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-IIlMM_QKY

Clip from the last State of the Union
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiaUdzsgvq0

You're right, its darn cold outside and I figured I would take the Reader's Digest approach. I think it is "retarded" to need to show evidence of the obvious. You would need to be training for the "Special Olympics" 7x24 to miss the fact that Obama continues to blame Bush.

A good response or discuss is - Is Obama right in doing so?

One could argue that 2004-2006 Bush's financial plans appeared to be working.

One could argue Bush was not paying for two wards and retarded for sending out checks to everyone.

...Just having fun with this post.
 
I wasn't going to do that - it was too easy, huh?

Did anyone notice the creator of this listing was banned? I just caught it. LOL!

Peace.
 
Again the claim is, 1 year later, Obama still blames Bush....Thanks for posting links so by the time I'm done you can see what the problem is with them and your efforts to back up the blame charge.

It is interesting that the thinking of this post is not isolated to the originator.
Of course it's not. No campaign is. This is an obvious card being played by GOPers to knock critics of the Bush administration of the path of exploring how bad the country was mismanaged under his administration by blaming the blamers for blaming. Consistently so, there are plenty of people making the claim and using poor examples to illustrate it. As with any campaign if something's said enough there quite enough simple minds to buy it. Irrespective of whether they even back their claim up with relevant example.

No different from the campaign launched by GOPers on the press....preemptive attack in order to make the issue the press instead what they should rightfully covering. Not new stuff nor particularly clever.

In the above link, the only place the name Bush is mentioned in relationship to blame in the entire link is everywhere the blogger says it. Obama mentions the words, Bush, blame, previous administration, etc. exactly zero times combined. Proving again just because someone claims something doesn't make it so.

Obama cites the circumstance we found ourselves in as a completely reasonable means of lending perspective to a circumstance.


The claim Obama blames Bush a year later? That link cites statements from 2/24/09. Case closed.
This is an interesting post on how Obama is pointing the finger and adding some to the pile as well.

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/1593150/obama_blames_bush_for_deficits.html

The claim, Obama still blames Bush 1 year later the above link is from March 2009. Case closed.
Some other ones:

This one points out that Obama was in office before 2009, just not as president (and has the sound bites of him blaming Bush)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBp3ZpjyseA
Clearly the office Obama is referring to is the Oval one. Would be nice though if he actually blamed Bush to be consistent with the theme of the campaign to blame Obama for blaming Bush. Stating circumstances and lending perspective may reflect something but doesn't automatically constitute blame. Not that we couldn't get enough of hearing from all Republican quarters about the recession Bush inherited or anything.

On this, Obama is flat wrong. Coakley wasn't a part of the incumbency of the last 2 or 8 years. She was beaten because she didn't think she would have to run a real campaign to win the seat. He is correct though when he discusses the palpable angst over the previous administration which swept allot of people into office including himself. So he blames Bush for him (among others) being in office. :dunno: Sounds about right.
ABC Clip - He actually likens himself to Bush
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-IIlMM_QKY

The same as my above comments.
Clip from the last State of the Union
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiaUdzsgvq0

McCain's camera cue just more evidence of the campaign to blame the blamer for blaming. It's obvious as daylight this is nothing more than an "echo chamber" campaign to try and drum beat the blame Bush theme against Obama.

Frankly, I wouldn't have a problem with a criticism of Obama for unduly blaming the previous administration. But I'm not going to criticize him for lending perspective to a circumstance. Nor am I inclined to ignore a reality just because GOPers launch a campaign to make people ignore the mistakes they championed to put us in this situation.

Try again, maybe you and Monica can team up this time with a couple of more friends.:thumbsup:
 
-Mega - Wow, there is no reasoning with you. My recommendation for you is to quit while you're behind. (I have a bet that you will reply and argue this email. So, please do ...I will be $20 richer. If you do, you'll only make the people who enjoy antagonizing you happy though.)

Funny you mention betting and behind since I've long since won a bet as to whether you would respond on point or just respond to keep from being quite.

I'm actually involved in a wager as to how many posts you'll make in this thread that point in every direction but the topic of the thread. From what I see, you still haven't supported your claim of Obama still blaming Bush. Mentioning the size of a deficit or debt when one took office doesn't constitute a blame. It's either a statement of fact or it isn't.
 
:confused:Obama has gave millions and millions of dollars to the rich so they can get their big bonus... He has not helpped the middle man at all... plus he is not helping the retired.. he will not raise social security for 2 more years..:ban: all I can say he is worse then bush... History will show that and he is already saying that he needs 8 more years... wow... :2 cents: I just don't understand how he thinks he is so good.. :fight:
 
:confused:Obama has gave millions and millions of dollars to the rich so they can get their big bonus... He has not helpped the middle man at all... plus he is not helping the retired.. he will not raise social security for 2 more years..:ban: all I can say he is worse then bush... History will show that and he is already saying that he needs 8 more years... wow... :2 cents: I just don't understand how he thinks he is so good.. :fight:

The "middle man" got a tax cut as soon as Obama took office...in relative time terms.

You want to do yourself a favor? Find out how the Gov. of your state is spending the stimulus money given to help get the "middle man" back working.
 
Frankly, I wouldn't have a problem with a criticism of Obama for unduly blaming the previous administration. But I'm not going to criticize him for lending perspective to a circumstance. Nor am I inclined to ignore a reality just because GOPers launch a campaign to make people ignore the mistakes they championed to put us in this situation.

Bingo.

But give the GOP credit - they are the masters of attack to deflect politics. And no matter how devoid of substance the attack might be, Democrats, instead of staying on point, too often take the bait and shift over to the defensive.
 
It is interesting that the thinking of this post is not isolated to the originator.

http://www.kurtschemers.com/obama-still-targeting-bush

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0209/19208.html

This is an interesting post on how Obama is pointing the finger and adding some to the pile as well.

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/1593150/obama_blames_bush_for_deficits.html

Some other ones:

This one points out that Obama was in office before 2009, just not as president (and has the sound bites of him blaming Bush)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBp3ZpjyseA

A Faux News Clip (barf!)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dx9CkVqVzq4

ABC Clip - He actually likens himself to Bush
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-IIlMM_QKY

Clip from the last State of the Union
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiaUdzsgvq0

You're right, its darn cold outside and I figured I would take the Reader's Digest approach. I think it is "retarded" to need to show evidence of the obvious. You would need to be training for the "Special Olympics" 7x24 to miss the fact that Obama continues to blame Bush.

A good response or discuss is - Is Obama right in doing so?

One could argue that 2004-2006 Bush's financial plans appeared to be working.

One could argue Bush was not paying for two wards and retarded for sending out checks to everyone.

...Just having fun with this post.

I think you hurt the detractor's feelings. He has resorted to lying and just bein mean because people don't agree with him.

So, there is no discussion on this thread. It has been reduced to venting. No acknowledgment of opinions, no acknowledgment of simple facts. Just arguing, lying, and venting.

I'm not going to read it any more. It is now for the thread zombies.
 
Old Soviet joke:

Moscow, 1953. Stalin calls in Khrushchev.

"Niki, I'm dying. Don't have much to leave you. Just three envelopes. Open them, one at a time, when you get into big trouble."

A few years later, first crisis. Khrushchev opens envelope 1: "Blame everything on me. Uncle Joe."

A few years later, a really big crisis. Opens envelope 2: "Blame everything on me. Again. Good luck, Uncle Joe."

Third crisis. Opens envelope 3: "Prepare three envelopes."
 
I think you hurt the detractor's feelings. He has resorted to lying and just bein mean because people don't agree with him.

So, there is no discussion on this thread. It has been reduced to venting. No acknowledgment of opinions, no acknowledgment of simple facts. Just arguing, lying, and venting.

I'm not going to read it any more. It is now for the thread zombies.

Old Soviet joke:

Moscow, 1953. Stalin calls in Khrushchev.

"Niki, I'm dying. Don't have much to leave you. Just three envelopes. Open them, one at a time, when you get into big trouble."

A few years later, first crisis. Khrushchev opens envelope 1: "Blame everything on me. Uncle Joe."

A few years later, a really big crisis. Opens envelope 2: "Blame everything on me. Again. Good luck, Uncle Joe."

Third crisis. Opens envelope 3: "Prepare three envelopes."

Problem solved. You two should get a room or at minimum your own thread and leave these to us bumbling, single celled life forms since we obviously can't communicate on the level of the M&M twins of semantics.

Maybe you can develop some film while you're at it.:thumbsup:
 
Problem solved. You two should get a room or at minimum your own thread and leave these to us bumbling, single celled life forms since we obviously can't communicate on the level of the M&M twins of semantics.

Maybe you can develop some film while you're at it.:thumbsup:

You are one bitter and childish dude.

I have a 4 year old that if you say he is being loud, he says "no, you're being loud." That is your argument. Then when people don't buy into that nonsense you just get mean.

I hope your mood improves.
 
You are one bitter and childish dude.

I have a 4 year old that if you say he is being loud, he says "no, you're being loud." That is your argument. Then when people don't buy into that nonsense you just get mean.

I hope your mood improves.

From the guy who has on a few occasions in this thread has sought to characterize me with less than flattering expressions including this latest hack.

But I'm "bitter":rolleyes:.....thanks for playing.

Exactly when did I insult you or your sister Monica?
 
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