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Yes, and add to that, Cutler and Flacco defenders will say their QB's have the worst offensive lines and/or awful receivers and/or stupidest coaches, yet still argue the QB play is consistent year in and year out and worthy of top 10 consideration. Plus they are the only ones saying either we...

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You brought up the Saints offense, and my reply was... give the Saint offense to Flacco and they would be cellar dwellers. Neither Holmes or Wallace are "great receivers". My point is... send either to Flacco and their numbers will go down, just like Holmes numbers dropped when he got with...

You said receivers quit on routes, so I asked a simple question. Have you ever seen Flacco tear into a receiver for giving up on a route? I never said he should constantly yell or yell on the field. Flacco must share some of the blame for the offense being the way it is. He isn't a diamond...

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Well said and I agree. Forget regular season. Flacco is on national stage every post season where everyone gets to see him not do his stuff. Have you ever seen Flacco really tear into a receiver for giving up on a route? I have a bunch of Ravens games saved on hard drive and I see a QB...

Seemingly you can't see that big picture. Carolina's QB is one reason why their offense is better than Chicago's. Also let's keep it 100% in reality. No coulda shoulda's Carolina was the worst team in the league. First you say they're Pro Bowlers, then turn right around, and say they're...

No, that's twisted logic. It means playing more hasn't helped. He's had every opportunity to get better. For example: he hasn't missed a year or bunch of games due to injury so his game suffers. All the QB's mentioned above were better players than Flacco is today, many , many years ago. Send...

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Flacco and Cutler have had years to show what they can do and so far I haven't seen much. Both teams (Bears and Ravens) are division contenders with glaring weakness at the QB position. Easy to blame other offensive players, but if they are as good as suggested, they would make the players...

Never missed a game... then he should be playing much better than he does. Yeah blame everyone on offense besides Flacco. Funny how that's never a point when talking about the Manning's, Brees, Brady or Rothlisberger; They always seem to have great new players, that plug right in and start...

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You're making my point. Cutler and Flacco have been around for awhile, plus have great defenses, and they haven't won. No way I could rank Cutler or Flacco in top ten QB's. What you see is what you get with them. Bet both would love to have had a year like Cam had last year. A link to what...

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Cam Newton's rookie year was as good or better than either. A rookie ran and threw for more yards than established pros. Cutler and Flacco been around for awhile + have great defenses, and they haven't / can't win.

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