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Actually, if you look at the post I was replying to, educational qualifications, intellect or presentation was clearly not the criteria - it was all about 'hotness'.

Actually Atar554 was pointing out your faulty reasoning as well. And I have no problem with that line regarding the job done, what I have a problem with (just like Atar554) was this line. Which you clarified later with this statement. And that's what you said wrong.

Right :drama:

Please do not confuse the military-industrial complex with real Americans.

I was highlighting the distinction between sole & any and I quoted your full statement right after I wrote 'any'. The millitary does as its ordered, just because they successfully executed a mission that Obama ordered them to do doesn't mean that he doesn't deserve credit for his policies. And...

I never said that you said the word any, I said that you changed your argument to 'sole' after giving Obama no credit. And that's not what the strawman argument was about, it was about your Bush statement. It's not semantics, formulating a policy is not the same as simply giving a go ahead...

Perry-Bachmann is a real possibility.

I already highlighted that bit. You weren't talking about 'sole' credit, you were talking about 'any' credit. And when did I say that Bush deserves no credit for ******* other terrorists? If I didn't then how is not a strawman? The only credit you are ready to give him is for 'signing...

Here comes another strawman. Nowhere did I mention the role of military in my reply so there is no question of attacking you for it,. And another strawman. First you assume that I am upset about something I never mentioned and then ask me why did I accuse you of it. Just wow. But as I have...

That's not what you said, stop the lying and deflection. Here is your quote. You weren't talking about 'sole' credit, you were talking about 'any' credit. Your first link is complete strawman (look up the term if you are confused), nowhere did I say that Bush doesn't deserve credit for the...

Are you arguing with yourself or is this another strawman? Who said that Bush doesnt deserve credit for his actions? :wtf:

And yet you can't quote where I said that. You are either delusional or have zero reading comprehension. That's not what I asked, I specifically asked why give Bin Laden any credit/blame at all since he wasn't the one who did the planning or carried out the ******. I didn't ask about the...

Could you quote the relevant bit.

Stormfront, FreeRepublic

Who is even claiming he was the sole hero but ultimately he is the CIC and it was his initiative to go into Pakistan (Republicans mocked him for it), to reinstate the Bin Laden desk at CIA while making Bin Laden a primary target (Bush on the other hand said he doesn't care about Bin Laden as...

Yup, its a beauty pageant alrite! You nailed it! :brick:

Nailed it. :clap:

Please provide a few examples. And why should there be a mention of her in this thread? Is she running for President, huh?

So now you are copy pasting bullshit from free-republic now? Really? :rofl2::rofl2: Try some facts to subside your phony outrage.:drama: http://www.factcheck.org/2010/04/obamas-private-army/ Why don't you like the free market? In case you are interested in the reasons, here is a good start...

If that's the case then why **** Bin Laden at all? What was he responsible for other than leading AlQaeda, the actual hijackers and the planners did the job, not Bin Laden. :drama:

Because the so called fiscal conservatives are not interested in 'controlling spending' - the biggest increase in spending over the last decade has been related to defense, yet not only have the establishment Republicans voted for further increases but so have the teabaggers. Here is a...

http://whatthefuckhasobamadonesofar.com/

It's not what you say anymore. It's how you say it. - The Way of the ***

Got to love Conservative consistency, eventually everything boils down to low taxes. Screw the earth, screw the science, screw the scientists, screw the next generation - as long as I can save couple of hundred at the end of the year then nothing else matters

DOA in Senate. The most idiotic bit about the bill is that it DICTATES what the Senate should do when the issue comes up again in six months. :1orglaugh

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2011/07/29/Clergy-arrested-in-Capitol-budget-protest/UPI-56331311937579/

Could be, I mean who in their right mind can argue against something as scientific as 'Intelligent Design' and 'An Evangelical Declaration on Global Warming' . :*****: Between, recently Koch Funded skeptics who hoped to disprove AGW ended up testifying saying that it exists...

You should really be careful where you quote these 'studies from' About the researcher.

Wow, just wow. Pelosi's pork is responsible for the debt now? Let's checkout some actual numbers, notice something there? It dropped dramatically after Dems took over Congress and you were saying? Backup link - http://i.imgur.com/2l77G.jpg I would rather say that the media has failed...

Right, that's where all your tax dollars are going, it all goes to illegals - never mind the wars and corporate handouts like Medicare Part D. :rofl2: And where are the spending increases coming from?

Don't worry, things have really improved since Hitler tried an extreme version of it. :*****:

Damn, looks like Obama wants to do a Reagan. :brick: In 1986, Reagan signed an immigration reform bill, the first in 20 years, that legalized the status for 1.7-million people. Edwin Meese, Reagan's former attorney general, characterizes what his boss did: "President Reagan called this what...

Right, Romney or Perry would never appoint corporatists czars in their cabinet. :sarcasm:

Maybe you should take another look at the post I was replying to, he was talking about liberals not Obama. And gotta love Conservative outrage, first Obama is a socialist-marxist who is out to destroy business, but if he appoints a corporate hack with ties to big business - he is suddenly the...

Did you miss this bit? Or as former Democratic Sen. Russ Feingold wrote, "Someone like Immelt, who has helped his company evade taxes on its huge profits - and is now looking to workers to take major pay cuts after his compensation was doubled - should not lead the administration's effort to...

Why would the 'lefties' support a right-wing Conservative ideology like Islam? Or are they confusing a call not to discriminate based on religion to supporting an ideology?

Why is that a bad thing considering that most of the poor reside in Conservative states?

So basically Conservatives support states Rights as long as all those states pass conservative policies. :*****:

:sarcasm: Except September 11 ofcourse.

Glenn 'Restoring Honor' Beck had this to say - http://gawker.com/5824624/glenn-beck-thinks-massacred-****-are-like-the-hitler-youth "And regarding - "who does a camp for **** that's all about politics?" Well, you do Beck. http://the912-project.com/2011/06/colorado-912-announces-patriot-camp/

And here is a pictorial presentation. Backup links http://lulzimg.com/i24/3dd85b.jpg http://i.imgur.com/bI05N.png

This thread would be about making sense of the whole subject and to post continuous updates of the ongoing drama. Let's start off with what happened over the last ten years that has led to the current predicament. Report from non-partisan Pew Fiscal Analysis Initiative.

What does this even mean? How many times in the past has the debt ceiling been raised and what has that done to economic recoveries? :rolleyes:

Are you referring to the debt?

No, because you made a general commentary on the economy and laid the entire blame on Obama. Sure the government is to blame but its interesting how there is no mention of the bankers who gambled away billions of dollars or corporations who lobby to ship jobs and squeeze the American worker...

Couple of points. The slowdown of the recovery was predicted by many economists which is turning out to be correct. Here is one among them published back in February. http://articles.latimes.com/2011/feb/23/nation/la-na-gop-cuts-20110224 Also, its demand that is holding back the overall...

Your commentary reminds of an old cartoon.

Thanks Mega :) I am pretty experienced at debating politics though, so let's see what they throw at me :D