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those budgets are separate, there is no connection because the IOUs in social security are what the US gov owes the people that paid into the system where as the majority of national debt is what the us treasury/gov owes to private banking stock holders and to other countries, the social...

j3_LSmQw9rU you will never see a complete and thorough audit of the fed in our lifetime, and the three points I have to correct Ben and many other fed critics on is the fed doesn't just "create money out of thin air" they must always have a debt instrument to monetize like a bond, bill, note...

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/14/opinion/why-i-am-leaving-goldman-sachs.html?_r=2&pagewanted=1 a pretty good article on why having a conscious and being a Goldman Sachs employee are an impossible combination

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can you rephrase your question x, are you implying that the national debt is tightly connected to the social security trust fund?

I'd have no problem paying into a medical model that I knew with 100 percent certainty was going to be run honestly and truly for the benefit of the people but unfortunately I know better and I know what this healthcare act is really about, now I have no choice but to pay into it just as being...

the borrowing from many has been going on since 86 up til the present

most of the homeless walking around in the US today are male veterans

the social security trust fund has been looted, what should have been a 4 trillion surplus is now nothing more than IOUs sitting in the fund which the gov gets to doublebook and count as an asset and as I have stated, means testing for social security will start to happen within a few years and...

Ted Cruz SMH does anyone know who his wife is, the bitch is a managing director at Goldman Sachs, phonies as the days are long

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the majority of US debt is owed to the private stockholders (conglomerate of banks) of the federal reserve, the fed is the number one buyer of US debt and has been for many years

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sorry Mariah, the fed can't be let up on because that is where the major financial decisions are made and that is the main source of our economic woes :) and Mongo, I know this might be hard for you to take in but perhaps, just maybe, the bureau of labor statistics are cooking their numbers and...

lol hey xfire, that shill alex jones won't even go into detail on the banking system like I do and mongo the unemployment rate is over 12 percent and has not dropped and that Dodd Frank act has done nothing to protect consumers, the head of the CFBP is run right out of the private federal...

the financial stimulus did not work for the people, it worked well for the mega banks that got bailed out and the federal reserve chairman til this day will not provide congress with a specific list of where the money actually went and I don't know what financial regulatory reform you are...

"If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." - George Orwell

neither of those two have stayed true, whatever good they might have done in the past has been overshadowed by their present state of greed, if you want to talk about true leaders of the civil rights movement, then lets talk about Malcolm X, MLK, Medgar Evers and Booker T Washington to name a...

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wow, its good to see this thread still going strong, excellent submissions by all :)

Jackson, Sharpton and Farrakhan are sell outs shills , they are disgraceful jokes IMO

but I do agree that with Obama is it a slower steady implosion, Romney would have turned the controls to warp speed ahead

wars will never end, there is too much money being made off of them, the affordable care act would have ****** even if Mittens had gotten elected because neither him nor Barack have the final say on it and the mega corporations are still doing whatever they want, it does not matter if a dem or...

and we should start to see Means testing for Social Security benefits beginning at around 2015

the kinks will get worked out eventually, the gov needs this money to go into another slush fund since the social security trust fund is pretty much tapped out

lyndon b johnson gerald ford jimmy carter ronald reagan george bush sr bill clinton george bush jr barack obama all these douches over the last 50 years and not one of them has ever suggested nationalizing the private federal reserve, SMH

that douche Carter signed the Depository Institutions Deregulation and Monetary Control Act of 1980 which gave the private federal reserve the power monetize ANY debt instrument, not just an obligation of the US government, indeed Carter and Clinton signed off on two of the worst pieces of...

throw the hidden tax of inflation onto this because of an increased money supply and it was very big

yes and will remain high no matter who is president, donkey or elephant

hey Mariah u should done some research on Opium production in Afghanistan, before and after the sending of troops

why hasn't any of these cult leaders ever talked about nationalizing the private federal reserve which would benefit the people greatly in the long run

the rise of the national debt has more to do with the complete delinking of the dollar from a gold and silver measurement back in 71 by Nixon but the Reagan administration definitely did not help matters, the biggest tax increase in US history was ****** under Reagan

http://www.usdebtclock.org/ its looking better everyday

drone strike are still going on today ******* innocent civilians, of course Libya is not the same as Iraq and Afghanistan but he still authorized destructive military action there that is still continuing til this day so to say the military has not "done" anything incorrect and yes a hot war...

his administration had no problem lending support to help wreck Libya and they were just as committed to going into Syria

the US military industrial empire has continued to expand under Obama as it was under Bush, Obama has done nothing to scale down the size and scope, the US still has over 180 military installations throughout the world, our current commander in cheat will not take any steps to shrink it and I...

they both ramped up spending, both are dirtbags that complement each other well IMO

so total worldwide derivatives are now tipping the counting scale at 1.4 quadrillion but so what, its just blips on a computer screen ;) http://www.dennistubbergen.com/archives/3420/derivatives-market-1-2-quadrillion

yes Blue, deficits are rising and continue to do so at record levels, I know there are tons of news articles that claim that deficits have fallen, are falling or are the lowest in X amount of years but guess what people, those articles are lying to you and anyone who takes these toilet papers as...

political lies are a regularity nowadays and have been for a long time and anyone who thinks deficits are falling, needs to go back and do some homework

fed stimulus = more QE = more money printing = more dollar devaluation = more loss of purchasing power over the long term for anyone hold the majority of their assets in US dollars

the main reason for the health care act push was the revenue stream it would generate, as I have stated before, the social security trust fund is filled with IOUs so the powers that be need a another slush fund to pull from, this is why the IRS will be handling the collection of this money, just...

the right to privacy is a thing of the past, we are living in a fish bowl, the trick is not to become fish food