Islam

[sean miguel]

is it a beautiful and peaceful religion as some in the west portray it as?

Or is it oppressive as practiced and incompatible with western liberal democracies?

Here's my own litmus test: insult the prophet muhammhad to a muslim with a ***** in their hand vs. insulting Christ to a christian with a ***** in theirs.

Who would you take your chances with, you tolerant fucking libs?

 

[Jack Davenport]

Fuck Islam.

 

[Johan]

is it a beautiful and peaceful religion as some in the west portray it as?

Or is it oppressive as practiced and incompatible with western liberal democracies?

Here's my own litmus test: insult the prophet muhammhad to a muslim with a ***** in their hand vs. insulting Christ to a christian with a ***** in theirs.

Who would you take your chances with, you tolerant fucking libs?

Neither. I'm not into insulting people for their beliefs.

I'd say Islam is oppresive. But just like every other religion.

Religions are just tools created by the powerful few to extend thei control over the powerless masses. It's also a mean that was used back in the days to answer the questions that science couldn't answer at that time.
If there one thing that Karl Marx was right about it's the role of religion in society : Religion is opium for the people. By that, he meant that what religion do to the people is similar to what opium do to an individual : provide pleasant illusions, reduces the pain but also reduces the willingness to confront tyranny, to stand up and fight for their rights.
On that his damn right : religions order you to obey the law, to show some respect for the powerful and, if you happen to live a life that does not matches what you would have wanted it to be, do not rebel, be patient 'cause God/Allah/Yahwe will provide you with a eternity of total happiness after you died. But if you try to rebel yoursefl, you will end up in Hell, a place even worst than the life you had.

 

[sean miguel]

Neither. I'm not into insulting people for their beliefs.

but then go on to insulting their beliefs.

before you edited:

fuck islam
fuck christianity
fuck buddhism
fuck hinduism

or whatever you said.

be consistent, Johan, and treat islam with the same disdain you treat christianity and you'll be credible.

 

[xfire]

***** to a *** fight, please exercise your 1st Amendment rights over there ----->>>> before I exercise my 2nd Amendment rights in yer ass.

 

[Johan]

but then go on to insulting their beliefs.

before you edited:

fuck islam
fuck christianity
fuck buddhism
fuck hinduism

or whatever you said.

That's why I edited myself.

be consistent, Johan, and treat islam with the same disdain you treat christianity and you'll be credible.

Actually, judging the way Islam is treated here I feel like I don't have to do my part. Also most of my positive comments on the issue are more about muslims than about islam itself. Religions and their leaders and high ranked priests are to be fought but the average believers are victims, not criminals. They are victims of the greatest scam in History and therefore shouldn't be blamed for believing in a lie.

When a terrorist blows himself in the middle of a crowd, who's more guilty for the deaths he caused : the terrorist himself or the ideologue who brainwashed him in trusting that Allah wants him to do that ?

 

[acenipplelicker]

trump wil fix em good

 

[Supafly]

You can't judge Islam in General, as you can't judge Christianity in general, or other religions.

There are many people like you and me in each, and there ISIS, the KKK, Church Shooters, Saudi, Iran, Dubai lawmakers who suppress women etc, there religious zealots in the USA who are on the warpath against women's rights over their own body, and much more.

 

[meesterperfect]

Denouncing Muslims for the crimes commited by them in Europe is a normal reaction.
Most of the so called refugees are young males with low skills and education so obviously there is going to be crimes committed by them.
Thats not excusing it, only pointing out the obvious.
Just like if you transferred millions of poor and uneducated hood rats of the USA there, there will be crime.
So it's really got nothing at all to do with religion.
And the EU continues to allow the refugees to pour in knowing full well what will happen.

But when it comes to bad feelings toward Muslims regarding terrorism most people either cant or refuse to see the truth.
Most people cant see that their feelings are a result of a big propaganda machine that was created sometime during the 1st Clinton presidency and put into full effect during Bush and continues stronger than ever under Obama.

All of the so called "****** Attacks" are manufactured by the US CIA. All of them.
Whenever you see the words Alquuueeaaada or ISIL or any other ****** group it is the West that is behind it.
The USA along with Britain, Saudi, Qatar , Isreal finance these ****** groups 100%.
They control them, they give them their orders, they arm them, and they pay them.

If anybody still can't see this by now they are either willfully ignorant or in denial.
All the ****** groups are backed by the United States.

So whenever you see on the fake news you watch that the muslims did this, the terrosts did that, ect it is the USA behind it every time.

C'mon anyway. Think about it. The Great US Military with all its money weapons and soldiers cant wipe out some poorly armed Alquada groups in Iraq, Syria, Yeman, Libya ect ect?
Bullshit. Not only dont they want to hurt a hair on their heads thay do all they can to protect them.
They are proxy armies used by the CIA and the Pentagon to create havoc and destabilize all the middle east countries they can.
The actual countries that are the worst and most radical are the ones the USA supports and sends weapons to so they can arm the ****** groups with. Saudis and Qatar being the top two.
Plus all this bullshit created by the USA makes for a great excuse to keep the Pentagon and the entire Military Industrial Complex rolling in money.
Money that is borrowed by the USA from the Federal Reserve at interest.

Its a feast for them all.

And in order to maintain it the US GOV must keep the boogeyman alive and well.
They must use their news media to ********* the People that Iran and Syria are a threat and Muslims want to **** your ********.
And most like the sheep they are fall for it all the way.

Our borders are wide open. If A-Rabs really wanted us dead they would be bombing **** everyday.
Government buildings.
Not stabbing a few people at the mall. Not shooting up a gay bar.
Its all fake. Its all propaganda to keep you afraid and angry.
To terrorize you and control your feelings.

All of this stuff. Every bit of it is manufactured.
The countries of the West- USA, Britain, France, Germany and their allies in the Middle East like Saudi, Qatar,Jordan, Israel are behind all of it.

So **** the fuck up already and see that you are being manipulated and stop being suckers.

There is no Muslim threat. The threat is from your own Government.

 

[zeeblofowl_1969]

is it a beautiful and peaceful religion as some in the west portray it as?

Or is it oppressive as practiced and incompatible with western liberal democracies?

Here's my own litmus test: insult the prophet muhammhad to a muslim with a ***** in their hand vs. insulting Christ to a christian with a ***** in theirs.

Who would you take your chances with, you tolerant fucking libs?

It is the same as Christianity they both are religions of assimilation and conquest formed by cowards to exploit the masses.

 

[Jack Davenport]

It is the same as Christianity they both are religions of assimilation and conquest formed by cowards to exploit the masses.

The day that Christians celebrate tomorrow and the kettles that are collecting money that goes to a lot of good causes.

Muslims don't do 1/10 of the charity work that Christians do.

 

[Mr. Daystar]

Neither. I'm not into insulting people for their beliefs.

I'd say Islam is oppresive. But just like every other religion.

Religions are just tools created by the powerful few to extend thei control over the powerless masses. It's also a mean that was used back in the days to answer the questions that science couldn't answer at that time.
If there one thing that Karl Marx was right about it's the role of religion in society : Religion is opium for the people. By that, he meant that what religion do to the people is similar to what opium do to an individual : provide pleasant illusions, reduces the pain but also reduces the willingness to confront tyranny, to stand up and fight for their rights.
On that his damn right : religions order you to obey the law, to show some respect for the powerful and, if you happen to live a life that does not matches what you would have wanted it to be, do not rebel, be patient 'cause God/Allah/Yahwe will provide you with a eternity of total happiness after you died. But if you try to rebel yoursefl, you will end up in Hell, a place even worst than the life you had.

BWHAHAHAHA,,,HAHAHAHAHA.......That's very funny!!!!!

 

[ritingfunny@yah]

I'm reminded of Keith Ellison, the first Muslim member of Congress. Shortly after he was elected, he appeared on Glenn Beck's CNN show, and Beck said, "No disrespect intended, but prove to me you're not a terrorist." Ellison had a lengthy, political response, but it should've been, "No disrespect intended, Mr. Beck, but prove to me you're not a member of the Klan. Prove to me you don't condone lynching black people, prove to me that you don't believe Jews are the devil, prove to me that you're not a ****, prove to me that you don't believe some women are witches, who should be burned at the stake, prove to me that you don't want to commit genocide against all Native Americans. Since you claim to be a Christian, surely that must mean you condone what other people have done in the name of Christianity. Lots of terrible things are done in the name of God, however you may choose to "worship" him. However, thinking eliminating Islam will eliminate the terrorism problem is like thinking ******* all Christians will put an end to the white supremacy movement. Islam isn't the problem. It's the people who cherry pick passages of the religious text to justify doing things that have nothing whatsoever to do with what's actually taught in said texts. Most importantly, if our strategy is to **** Muslims, we'd best be prepared to watch the terrorist numbers skyrocket.

 

[Jack Davenport]

I'm reminded of Keith Ellison, the first Muslim member of Congress. Shortly after he was elected, he appeared on Glenn Beck's CNN show, and Beck said, "No disrespect intended, but prove to me you're not a terrorist." Ellison had a lengthy, political response, but it should've been, "No disrespect intended, Mr. Beck, but prove to me you're not a member of the Klan. Prove to me you don't condone lynching black people, prove to me that you don't believe Jews are the devil, prove to me that you're not a ****, prove to me that you don't believe some women are witches, who should be burned at the stake, prove to me that you don't want to commit genocide against all Native Americans. Since you claim to be a Christian, surely that must mean you condone what other people have done in the name of Christianity. Lots of terrible things are done in the name of God, however you may choose to "worship" him. However, thinking eliminating Islam will eliminate the terrorism problem is like thinking ******* all Christians will put an end to the white supremacy movement. Islam isn't the problem. It's the people who cherry pick passages of the religious text to justify doing things that have nothing whatsoever to do with what's actually taught in said texts. Most importantly, if our strategy is to **** Muslims, we'd best be prepared to watch the terrorist numbers skyrocket.

This is cotdam horseshit.

When have Christians in just the past 10 years ( for example) ****** in massive numbers in the name of their religion as Muslims have?

Kindly point us to where Klansman have ******** 3000 in one pop. Or shoot up a shopping mall or night club in the name of Jesus Christ. White supremacy movement?
Can you point to any lynchings or cross burnings in the past year?

Stick your false equivalency up your twisted secular atheist liberal ass.

 

[pool_hustler]

The Great US Military with all its money weapons and soldiers cant wipe out some poorly armed Alquada groups in Iraq, Syria, Yeman, Libya ect ect?

No it can't. At least not rapidly. Why? Because 1) You can't wipe out an ideology with nothing more than military might 2) Elements of those groups are very widely dispersed and serve various purposes 3) They don't belong to any nation, so they can't be eradicated by eradicating a nation or its government 4) Their fighters aren't all congregated somewhere in open space like a set piece battlefield 5) If you take out civvies with them you only grow more of them.

Our borders are wide open.

No. They are not.

If A-Rabs really wanted us dead they would be bombing **** everyday.

How? They don't have an air *****. They aren't going to be rolling up in landing crafts on the Jersey shore. They aren't here in *****. We have huge national security agencies plus *************** constantly on watch monitoring threats.
In the places they have existed in ***** they have bombed **** just about every day (Iraq insurgency, etc)

If anybody still can't see this by now they are either willfully ignorant or in denial.

I'd certainly say the same about anyone who witnessed the towers coming down but doesn't think there is a (radical) Muslim threat.

 

[meesterperfect]

There is no reason to deabate any of this with you because you will not accept the reality that all these ****** groups made up of mercenaries are offshoots of Alqaeda and they take their orders from The US GOV.

1) They are used by the US as proxy armies to destabilize certain Middle East countries as in Iraq, Libya, Egypt, Syria ect ect.
2) They are used as a boogeyman as an excuse for never ending wars by the US GOV to keep the MIC rolling in never ending money all borrowed from The Federal Reserve.
3) They are used as a boogeyman to keep us all freaked out so we will think we need The GOV to protect us from them.
Problem Reaction Solution.
4) They are a tool to justify the mass immigration into Europe in order to destabilize those countries as well.
5) They are used as the boogeyman in all the fake hoax killings who's purpose is to create more laws and erode the Constitution little by little as well as keep the DHS and all the other similar agencies rolling in money.

I know you don't believe any of that.
You think what they tell you to think.
Its a bunch of crazy religiuos fanatics who **** us and want us dead because they **** our freedom.

http://giphy.com/gifs/proud-KkXlyKOg90tz2

 

[meesterperfect]

 

[tartanterrier]

I think you get good in every religion including Islam, although there are some major fanatical fucktards who have to fuck it up for everybody else.

 

[pool_hustler]

You think what they tell you to think.
Its a bunch of crazy religiuos fanatics who **** us and want us dead because they **** our freedom.

Yes, I think it's essentially a bunch of religious fanatics. No, I don't think they want us dead simply because "they **** our freedom".
Would suggest reading in its entirety Bin Laden's "letter to the America people" circa 2002, which explains in great detail, from their perspective, the many reasons they're at war with us, and their justifications, along with their demands.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2002/nov/24/theobserver

 

[assari]

The Western world people should get out of fucked up Arab countries, Israel must withdraw from the occupied territory and Western armies should prevented Arabs from entering Western countries.

Islam religion is not the problem, hostile Arabs are a problem.