Flashback: Reagan on Unions...

[CunningStunts]

It had been so long, I had forgotten what LEADERSHIP looked and sounded like.

 

[Hot Mega]

It had been so long, I had forgotten what LEADERSHIP looked and sounded like.

Cool script bro.

 

[maildude]

Reagan was once the President of the Screen Actors Guild.

 

[Hot Mega]

Reagan was once the President of the Screen Actors Guild.

:1orglaugh:rofl::rofl2: ...and that ball is outtttta hereee!

 

[ragincaucasian]

FUCK YEAH!!! Enable corporations to **** the working class!
Hell Yeah!

 

[CunningStunts]

So this is going to become a class warfare thread? How quaint.

So for you union supporters, how do you feel about the public "servants" in Wisconsin holding the citizens and taxpayers for ransom?

 

[Hot Mega]

So this is going to become a class warfare thread? How quaint.

So for you union supporters, how do you feel about the public "servants" in Wisconsin holding the citizens and taxpayers for ransom?

I hope not but you gotta know you pitched a high, hanging curve ball in the middle of October with Reggie Jackson at bat.

Personally, I don't delineate between individual types of 'unions' (labor, or otherwise). I think the concept of parties with like interests leveraging together to effect a change is sound.

Isn't that what we're doing with those we're allied with against Iran? And what Reagan was doing when he headed the actor's union. Right?:dunno:

Unions are outdated and exist only to enrich themselves. Plenty of states doing without them and they're doing fine.
WI needs to **** up.
Here in Ohio the unions have only shot themselves in the foot.

The concept of leverage never gets outdated. :2 cents:

 

[Trident1]

Unions are outdated and exist only to enrich themselves. Plenty of states doing without them and they're doing fine.
WI needs to **** up.
Here in Ohio the unions have only shot themselves in the foot.

 

[ragincaucasian]

the citizens and taxpayers for ransom?

how so?
They have agreed to pay cuts and the like...... its all about breaking workers rights (through collective bargaining)


but don't let that get in the way of good self-righteous knee-jerk session

Turn up the AM talk radio and wait for King Ronnie to come to the rescue....

 

[CunningStunts]

how so?
They have agreed to pay cuts and the like...... its all about breaking workers rights (through collective bargaining)


but don't let that get in the way of good self-righteous knee-jerk session

Turn up the AM talk radio and wait for King Ronnie to come to the rescue....

I don't listen to any talk radio or any other political commentary, I trust my own counsel above all other, but thanks for the attempt to stereotype.

And who has more "rights", the servants or the people paying their salaries, pensions, and health bebefits? The public sector has far outpaced the private in the last decade in benefits, and for "average" jobs, salaries as well. Here in DC, Feds salaries and benefits are astonomical when compared to their provate sector counterparts, and when Obama ordered a two year freeze on raises, people lost their freaking minds! They truly act like they are SUPPOSED to get more every year without earnig it!

 

[Bloodshot Scott]

how so?
They have agreed to pay cuts and the like...... its all about breaking workers rights (through collective bargaining)


but don't let that get in the way of good self-righteous knee-jerk session

Turn up the AM talk radio and wait for King Ronnie to come to the rescue....

I'm all for the middle class, and my *** was blessed to have been unionized in the railroad, but sheisty-ness is sheisty-ness. Just ask maildude how good he has it at the USPS. He knows. I know, because I've dealt with them and their sheisty **** for the last decade.

The U.S. Postal Service is again hiking first-class rates and preparing to end Saturday delivery, thereby subsidizing junk mail and featherbedding postal worker unions at first-class users' expense.

Swollen ranks of postal administrative personnel stay, while competent desk people doing real work receive public anger. Powerful unions use Washington clout to prevent long, overdue cuts. Using campaign contributions to influential legislators, they defeat efficiency measures. Postal officials claim theirs is an independent agency, without mentioning that the agency enjoys a financial umbilical cord to the U.S. Treasury.

To avoid taking heat, Congress created the Postal Rate Commission, a reliable rubber stamp run by political appointees to approve all service cutbacks and rate hikes. This allows the USPS and Congress to blame the commission for unpopular decisions. Services deteriorate. Costs spike. The cycle repeats. Across the nation, outside contractors deliver much of the mail. Congress does no meaningful oversight. Nothing changes. So every two years, they do their minuet and you pay more.

Solution? Remove the USPS's first-class mail delivery monopoly. When private business entered package delivery, UPS and FedEx stripped the post office of that business in short order. Hiring away the best federal workers, problems would be largely alleviated. Or government could finally be honest, simply subsidizing efficient mail service, as many nations do.

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/opinio...poly-of-first-class-mail-delivery-877010.html

 

[Trident1]

I love how these Unionistas think they can have a freakin balanced state budget with their idiocy.
Shrink state government, dump the unions, lower taxes, increase incentives for businesses to stay.

 

[CunningStunts]

Good example Scott... how much money did the USPS make last quarter? Or last year?

***wait for it***

Here's a newsflash people: The nation is BROKE. When you're broke, you don't keep spending money like a ******* sailor on shoreleave. Now I know the unions are a huge powerbase for a certain political party (ask Harry Reid), but the people spoke, and the leaders in WI are doing what they were elected to do. Or does that argument only work when the the other party wins an election? :dunno:

 

[Hot Mega]

I'm all for the middle class, and my *** was blessed to have been unionized in the railroad, but sheisty-ness is sheisty-ness. Just ask maildude how good he has it at the USPS. He knows. I know, because I've dealt with them and their sheisty **** for the last decade.



http://www.palmbeachpost.com/opinio...poly-of-first-class-mail-delivery-877010.html

Good example Scott... how much money did the USPS make last quarter? Or last year?

***wait for it***

Here's a newsflash people: The nation is BROKE. When you're broke, you don't keep spending money like a ******* sailor on shoreleave. Now I know the unions are a huge powerbase for a certain political party (ask Harry Reid), but the people spoke, and the leaders in WI are doing what they were elected to do. Or does that argument only work when the the other party wins an election? :dunno:

Correct me if I'm mistaken but isn't all of the USPS' revenue derived from sales sans any tax money?

 

[ragincaucasian]

you're conflating multiple issues into one....thus presenting a disingenous narrative.

Being against what Walker is attempting to push (has nothing to do with public servant's compensation) is not a codified endorsement of all the people (and their unions) it represents. Take one issue at a time.

I'm not an advocate for teachers, police, firemen, postal workers, etc..... I AM against a disenfranchising attempt by power to take MORE power (break up collective power of the people, now there is no recourse to advocate for the labor class). If you're against worker rights / the power of the individual citizen, then you can really get behind what Walker is doing.

 

[ragincaucasian]

are doing what they were elected to do. Or does that argument only work when the the other party wins an election? :dunno:

I dunno, ask Health Care legislation in 2009......

 

[grower_boy]

Reagan knew he was doing. Small government was the way to go.

And keep in mind, I'm definitely "working class". I take the damn bus everywhere, only have a few pairs of jeans, etc...but do you really prefer Obama's crap over Reagan?

 

[busaguy79]

I have lost all faith in Unions!! The one i'm a part of at work just take my monthly fees and then just fuck me over!! Even when work fucked with me my union did nothing to help!! Fucking pricks!!

 

[Hot Mega]

Reagan knew he was doing. Small government was the way to go.

And keep in mind, I'm definitely "working class". I take the damn bus everywhere, only have a few pairs of jeans, etc...but do you really prefer Obama's crap over Reagan?

Can you be specific about the Reagan crap you preferred over Obama's?

 

[busaguy79]

And Reagans 'trickle down theory' did work