why do some filmmakers work with girls who clearly don't want to be there?

[nightowl]

i can sort of understand that really beautiful girls continue to get work and contracts even though their sexual performance is pretty poor. there will always be a market in terms of guys wanting to watch the most beautiful women get fucked, even if they are regular cum dodgers, look about as excited as if they are doing the laundry etc. my own personal preference is beauty and performance. she's got to be good looking but also fuck like a slut, willingly take a load of cum in her mouth etc. however, what i don't get is why some girls who are fairly average in looks and even worse in performance continue to be used. i don't know the ratio of girls available to films being made but it seems there's a lot of girls being used again and again who just lie back and take it without even the slightest glimmer of emotion on their faces and then keep their lips tightly sealed during the cumshot before rushing for the box of tissue.

 

[24788]

Well, what do they care? If they're hot enough and it helps the bottom line. Do they really care anyways?

 

[anomaly]

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

 

[BlueBalls]

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

:hatsoff:

 

[gotham123]

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

cha-ching

 

[Gordar]

$ and psychology. Some girls do want to work, but as soon as the get in front of the camera they start having doubts. I don't know if it's stagefright or morals she can no longer ignore (rather late if you ask me), but I know of a good example of a girl that generally wanted to do it as long as she was behind the camera, but got more unwilling as soon as she got in front of the camera. Sadly I cannot give the example here, as there was more involved in this case & mentioning that would be a breach of the board rules (or maybe not, but the guy did get sued and locked up for it anyway (in Russia), so I'm going to assume it's true.)

 

[Alexis Golden]

i can sort of understand that really beautiful girls continue to get work and contracts even though their sexual performance is pretty poor. there will always be a market in terms of guys wanting to watch the most beautiful women get fucked, even if they are regular cum dodgers, look about as excited as if they are doing the laundry etc. my own personal preference is beauty and performance. she's got to be good looking but also fuck like a slut, willingly take a load of cum in her mouth etc. however, what i don't get is why some girls who are fairly average in looks and even worse in performance continue to be used. i don't know the ratio of girls available to films being made but it seems there's a lot of girls being used again and again who just lie back and take it without even the slightest glimmer of emotion on their faces and then keep their lips tightly sealed during the cumshot before rushing for the box of tissue.

I agree with this 100%. I only go out to shoot 2-4 times a year and am excited to get fucked. The more I get the more I want. But I meet girls that are NOT into it at all and it's a huge turn off.

Smooches,

Alexis Golden
www.alexisgolden.com
www.alexisgoldenmovies.com

 

[Darmund]

i can sort of understand that really beautiful girls continue to get work and contracts even though their sexual performance is pretty poor. there will always be a market in terms of guys wanting to watch the most beautiful women get fucked, even if they are regular cum dodgers, look about as excited as if they are doing the laundry etc. my own personal preference is beauty and performance. she's got to be good looking but also fuck like a slut, willingly take a load of cum in her mouth etc. however, what i don't get is why some girls who are fairly average in looks and even worse in performance continue to be used. i don't know the ratio of girls available to films being made but it seems there's a lot of girls being used again and again who just lie back and take it without even the slightest glimmer of emotion on their faces and then keep their lips tightly sealed during the cumshot before rushing for the box of tissue.

Because contrary to what you seem to believe, there aren't millions and millions of women/girls who are just dying to get into the porn industry and get fucked up their butthole and then have to lick their own shit off the cock on camera for all the world to see.

In the US there aren't more then 800 chicks in the porn industry at one time and even that is an overly generous estimate.

The reason that chicks who don't seem the least bit interested in the action get work is that there is an insatiable demand for porn in this country, in every conceivable and vile form possible, and thus directors need chicks to fill those niches.

More importaantly, having to fuck on camera with a a dude you know absolutely nothing about and may well find repulsive leads to many chicks simply disconnecting their mind from what is going on with their body, hence the dead unemotional way they have sex.

But you don't like it, O NOES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Too fucking bad.

Then quit whining about it and simply don't watch it.

 

[mosvie]

Yea gotta agree wif the person above, definetly porn is needed all around the world, but whoever they hire is up to them, who cares if the only thing we the viewers do is watch it.

 

[Land0]

cha-ching

:thumbsup:

 

[Will E Worm]

Why are the girls there if they clearly don't want to be?

If they didn't want to be then they wouldn't be.

They don't have to be in porn.

Cop-outs
"I needed the money."

"Gay for pay" You do that and you are "gay."

I'm not letting the females off either, if they are with a female then they are not straight.

If they say no to b/g well then...


:hatsoff:

 

[nightowl]

Because contrary to what you seem to believe, there aren't millions and millions of women/girls who are just dying to get into the porn industry and get fucked up their butthole and then have to lick their own shit off the cock on camera for all the world to see.

er, actually if you read my post you'll notice i said i didn't know the ratio of women to films so how that equates to 'contrary to what you seem to believe...' is beyond me

More importaantly, having to fuck on camera with a a dude you know absolutely nothing about and may well find repulsive leads to many chicks simply disconnecting their mind from what is going on with their body, hence the dead unemotional way they have sex..

i have no doubt that many women find it unpleasant. however, my point was not about their reaction, motives etc

But you don't like it, O NOES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Too fucking bad.

Then quit whining about it and simply don't watch it.

you certainly have a way with words

 

[grimey]

Because contrary to what you seem to believe, there aren't millions and millions of women/girls who are just dying to get into the porn industry and get fucked up their butthole and then have to lick their own shit off the cock on camera for all the world to see.

In the US there aren't more then 800 chicks in the porn industry at one time and even that is an overly generous estimate.

The reason that chicks who don't seem the least bit interested in the action get work is that there is an insatiable demand for porn in this country, in every conceivable and vile form possible, and thus directors need chicks to fill those niches.

More importaantly, having to fuck on camera with a a dude you know absolutely nothing about and may well find repulsive leads to many chicks simply disconnecting their mind from what is going on with their body, hence the dead unemotional way they have sex.

But you don't like it, O NOES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Too fucking bad.

Then quit whining about it and simply don't watch it.

Stop yelling at me daddy!!!!! :weeping:

 

[jod0565]

Hmmm, all this and no names are mentioned of said unenthused gals?

Let's see some clips of these non performance performers because maybe I'm looking at the wrong porn.
Only one comes to mind that I have seen - Kandi Hart.
I picked up a vid of hers that had hot pics of her, but lackluster performance ensued. zzzzzzzz....

 

[Kingfisher]

They have faces? News to me.

 

[D-rock]

The simplest answer I can give is that there is too many people in the industry who don't give a damn about the women and have no problems using other people or doing anything they think they can get away with to get money.

 

[Darmund]

Why are the girls there if they clearly don't want to be?

If they didn't want to be then they wouldn't be.

They don't have to be in porn.

Cop-outs
"I needed the money."

"Gay for pay" You do that and you are "gay."

I'm not letting the females off either, if they are with a female then they are not straight.

If they say no to b/g well then...


:hatsoff:

I see this "argument" all the time and it's bullshit, plain and simple.

Paul Thomas Anderson talks about just this sort of thing on one of the commentary tracks for Boogie Nights in which he references porn star Veronica Hart from the late 1970's and 80's. He made pretty much the same lame stupid bullshit "argument" that you did, and Hart pretty much fucked him up with her response which was actually based in something like reality. Basically it was this, (paraphrased)

Actually what tends to happen is this: a girl moves to Los Angeles either with or without their boyfriend, and if she doesn't have a boyfriend she gets one soon after moving there, they start having money problems, like the guy loses his job and can't for whatever reason get a new one and the girl sees an add for non-nude modeling and answers it and at the photo shoot is told she could make (insert larger amount of money here) if she did nude-non hardcore modeling and she does it and her boyfriend is fine with it and from there it's a pretty small step to doing hardcore porn, because the money can be very good, but suddenly her boyfriend is enraged and calling her a slut.

It's a lot easier for a chick to get into porn then it is for a dude and for said chick to make some very good bank in a very short period of time. That doesn't mean that she is enjoying what she is doing in the least, in fact she is probably loathing it.

 

[Darmund]

Hmmm, all this and no names are mentioned of said unenthused gals?

Let's see some clips of these non performance performers because maybe I'm looking at the wrong porn.
Only one comes to mind that I have seen - Kandi Hart.
I picked up a vid of hers that had hot pics of her, but lackluster performance ensued. zzzzzzzz....

The late Savannah from the 1990's was infamous for her icy unfeeling performance. She pretty much just lay there like a lump of flesh.

 

[Supafly]

The way of casting very beautiful performers that aren't actually performers but rather just models that go further than they really feel like comfortable is a problem. And it is so har to understand why producers keep doing this.

I mean, they do look at the scenes when they a re making them and they should really go like, 'Man, there's just no spark coming across'. Surely the performers do not actually have to love what they do, but they should be enough of an actor to simulate it. If not, they should go back to making just photoshoots.

Because when some studios put out too many of such flops, their sales will drop.

Whereas if you look at the real scorchers that transport that hotness (Right now, it's Tory Lane, Sasha Grey, a bit ago, Belladonny, Nicole Sheridan, you get the picture... ), these just help sell and sell excellent steaming hot videos.

It's about being really sexy, you don't really have to be a cover-girl.

 

[Will E Worm]

I see this "argument" all the time and it's bullshit, plain and simple.

Paul Thomas Anderson talks about just this sort of thing on one of the commentary tracks for Boogie Nights in which he references porn star Veronica Hart from the late 1970's and 80's. He made pretty much the same lame stupid bullshit "argument" that you did, and Hart pretty much fucked him up with her response which was actually based in something like reality. Basically it was this, (paraphrased)

Hmmm?

The facts are just the facts. :hatsoff: