We can solve it, website on climate crisis

[Friday on my mind]

http://wecansolveit.org/

Seen some interesting combos doing commericals on TV for the site.
Newt Gingrich and Nancy Pelosi
Al Sharpton and Pat Robertson

 

[dave_rhino]

If I see one more fucking global warming campaign, I swear to god I'm gonna buy a damn energy efficient lightbulb...

 

[Friday on my mind]

If I see one more fucking global warming campaign, I swear to god I'm gonna buy a damn energy efficient lightbulb...

LOL.That is one thing I would agree with you on Dave.This idea that if we just buy new lightbulbs or put up some wind powered stuff is really going to to do a thing and that somehow there is an easy fix.
But there was something you said in LL's thread about how ****** nature is doing it to herself that i would take issue with.Actually ****** nature has kept some of the effects down so far as the natural cycle right now is a cooling one that we are over-riding with all of our Co2 emmisions thereby creating warming.

 

[D-rock]

In theory the commercials seem good, but I bet the people in them are a lot more willing to talk than to take action themselves.

 

[Member2019]

Considering our last 30 years ...

Considering our last 30 years, and how much even the allegedly "environmentally conscience" have done, I seriously doubt "mass awareness" will help at all. In fact, considering what the "mass awareness" thinks is "bad" and "good" -- much like those of the last 30 years -- I'd say we're just going to accelerate our planet's fucking.

Seriously. I wish it was a joke. But it's not.

Then again, engineers seem to be just bypassing much of the popular attitudes (e.g., nuclear, wind, etc...), and getting the funding to do so from both the Democrats and Republicans (while paying "lip service" on other things), maybe it won't be so bad. I'm just crossing my fingers, because nothing happened when gas prices were low, so I'm hoping that changes now that gas prices are the "national security" catalyst.

So even if the "mass awareness" wants to fuck the planet, unintentionally of course, just like they've done their best for the last 30 years, those with real monetary stakes (thanx to gas prices) will get at least some things done. There's still some things going wrong (like the corn lobby), but I'm still hopeful in the end. As long as engineers get the funding, they will do what is right, regardless of what other people think is right.

 

[senob44]

Al Sharpton is involved in this? Call my suspicions cliche, but as a white person, I would be very suspicious of anything he thinks I should do to make the world a better place.

Step 1: Buy energy-efficient lightbulbs
Step 2: Outfit your house with solar panels
Step 3: Stop oppressing black people
Step 4: Take a long walk off a short pier

 

[Legzman]

I give up on this ****. I know that climate change is a real issue this day and age, and while it's true that we are accelerating it, it's also true that we as humans, intellegent as we are, are also to fuckin lazy or whatever you want to call it to do a damn thing about it!

 

[FAH-Q]

pretty vain of anybody who thinks the planet can be saved now. :1orglaugh

 

[bombardier52]

This is like a sharp stick in the eye. I am not sold that there is any real climate change. I just keep remembering that these are the same tired old hacks that made a living on the "coming ice age" just 20 years ago. Its all about funding for studies and handouts for business doing "green" things.

You have to wonder what caused the warm period that led the vikings to settle in Greenland and **** crops and raise cattle. Taken a good look at Greenland lately? They ain't farming squat. What about the Little Ice Age in medieval times? There are only theories on what cause either of those.

I reject that it is really settled science. That is a weak argument when it is so very easy to find scientists that do disagree. Plenty that aren't working for fossil fuel concerns.

Supposing that we could alter the climate how do we know that increased *** activity might not be kept partially at bay by increased cloud activity linked to "manmade global warming?"

I am all for using less energy to bring down costs. I am also for not dumping nasty stuff into our air or our water but IMO CO2 is not the nasty stuff that we need to worry about.

 

[gunslingingbird]

For those Gingrich-Pelosi ads I don't think they were in the same room at the same time. I think that they shot each person separately, and then superimposed the 2 images together. I just can't think of those two being genuinely civil to each other on tv.

 

[L3ggy]

Don't talk about it! Do it!

 

[dave_rhino]

Don't talk about it! Do it!

What exactly is this "it" you speak of?

 

[Tballlz63]

i love hearing about CO2 and how we have to stop producing it, meanwhile water vapor which is the real problem never gets talked about. water vapor vs CO2 as a greenhouse gas is the real problem with temperature increase.

but it's not like these politicians can get up there and tell us all to stop breathing, so they'll make us worry about CO2 gas, even though if we bring CO2 emissions down to where they were before the planet started industrializing, we would still have plenty of greenhouse gas in the form of water vapor due to the exponential population increase.

damned if you do, damned if you don't!

 

[Friday on my mind]

i love hearing about CO2 and how we have to stop producing it, meanwhile water vapor which is the real problem never gets talked about. water vapor vs CO2 as a greenhouse gas is the real problem with temperature increase.

but it's not like these politicians can get up there and tell us all to stop breathing, so they'll make us worry about CO2 gas, even though if we bring CO2 emissions down to where they were before the planet started industrializing, we would still have plenty of greenhouse gas in the form of water vapor due to the exponential population increase.

damned if you do, damned if you don't!

We actually have debated this water vapor thing in the past.Water vapor is not something that will stay up in the atmosphere and have any warming effects.Get enough water vapor together and it rains. :1orglaugh

 

[Tballlz63]

yeah... then that water evaporates and... goes BACK into the atmosphere. seeing as how there's about 60 times more water vapor then CO2 i'd say its a problem. i'm not arguing for pollution, i'm just saying the politicians are just using global warming to do what they do best line their pockets.

 

[Facetious]

They're all a buncha invested whores ! IMO

Has anybody else noticed that every crisis produced by govt.
A. "relieves" us of our liberties
B. Costs infinite sums of money
C. *Create a network of other "unforseen" and exorbitantly costly problems on the flip side
D. "Issue" at hand is NEVER remedied in the end.


* The mercury rich, spiral compact florescent bulb is classified as a fucking Haz Mat !! What do we do now ? Employ about 500,000 new government employees dedicated to " the proper disposable " of our new China Monopoly :thefinger manufactured bulb?

I like how some stores advertise that customers to bring these burned out bulbs back to
the stores where they were purchased (for "proper" disposal)
Well, f'en great ! What if somebody (and they will) drops the bulb as they make their way into the store ? Do we evacuate the store . . call 911 Fire Dept Haz Mat for toxic clean up ? Close the store for 24 hours ? :dunno:
Besides, no retail stores are set up with any special "super doooper light bulb disposable bin". It's coming though !

To hell with these light bulbs ! Their short life is about the same as undisturbed conventional incandescent bulbs.

Also -

√ not all light fixtures will fire a compact florescent

√ If you wish to dim a florescent it costs big $$$ !

√ You guys better stock up on the incandescents . . and on the double !
I'd go as far as to invest in them i.e. 1000 pack /case.


SIGH - Do you guys ever **** in the night only to ponder and or contemplate why, how and just what we are ? and what we've become ?

:Seriousness over: . . . :grins:

 

[rmagedon]

Everybody seems to think they're doing the right thing. Saving water here, turning off lights there, using up less gas, driving around less. Meanwhile, these same people go out and buy Made in China goods. China's industrial revolution is causing mass clouds of CO2 that it can be seen from space. I **** to say it, but with our dependence on China, big business looking to save money on labor and our lust for cheap goods, I don't see a TRUE solution to this global warming in the near future.