Water Wars
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At first, when I read the name of this thread, I thought this might be talking about a sequal to the movie Water World. :1orglaugh
Anyway, I read years ago about Coca Cola draining the water table in India. It makes it even worse that it's a very densely populated area and suffers from a disproportional amount of drought. I was surprised that nobody noticed what was happening or took action then. The availability of water will only get worse with time as the world’s population grows. It is a little sad to see corporations starting to gain that much control over a substance that is directly necessary for life. Of course with money and power they have always had much more influence with the ones in charge than have the everyday common people that they hurt by their actions. I'm just glad I live in a local region where water is in abundance and is one of our few and best resources. Even here there have been problems with bottling plants that have popped up around here in the last 7 or 8 years and the people that want to both keep and get rid of them.
Anyway, I read years ago about Coca Cola draining the water table in India. It makes it even worse that it's a very densely populated area and suffers from a disproportional amount of drought. I was surprised that nobody noticed what was happening or took action then. The availability of water will only get worse with time as the world’s population grows. It is a little sad to see corporations starting to gain that much control over a substance that is directly necessary for life. Of course with money and power they have always had much more influence with the ones in charge than have the everyday common people that they hurt by their actions. I'm just glad I live in a local region where water is in abundance and is one of our few and best resources. Even here there have been problems with bottling plants that have popped up around here in the last 7 or 8 years and the people that want to both keep and get rid of them.
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Wow, I had no idea. Thanks for the heads up dd, worth reading up on. I may pass the info on to a nephew in high school. Would make a great report. :thumbsup:
As for what I think, I only drink water and coffee, on occasion tea (very few occasions) so nuff' said. I'm all for saving our environment. Some other way of making it"must" be found.
LL
As for what I think, I only drink water and coffee, on occasion tea (very few occasions) so nuff' said. I'm all for saving our environment. Some other way of making it"must" be found.
LL
" If oil defines the present, water might define the future. But at present, it take four litres of fresh water to create one litre of cola, and the rest is rendered waste. Toxic waste. And what do the MNCs pay? A pittance. So much for the fizz and the celebrity-laden ads."
This one is on behalf of dd. He told me to post this before leaving for two days out of station. He wants to know your reaction on the entire article. :thumbsup:
pd
This one is on behalf of dd. He told me to post this before leaving for two days out of station. He wants to know your reaction on the entire article. :thumbsup:
pd
Two little updates & isn't it serious?
Update1
Update 2
A small one from the 1st article:
"To implement the 1964 Arab summit resolution, work began on the Syrian and Jordanian side of the border, despite Israel's warning that it would consider it an infringement of national rights. And though all the work was carried out on Arab or neutral land, battles, air raids and artillery duels occurred. In the end, Israeli air strikes deep into Syria forced the Arabs to call off their scheme by destroying the proposed dam site on the Yarmuk river. Had the two dams al-Maquarin and Al-Makhiyabat been completed, they would have deprived Israel of 550 million cubic meter per annum.( In fact Jordan and Syria are proposing to build a new Dam the Unity Dam further upstream, World bank linking the finance with an agreement with Israel, which has not been reached yet.)
General Ariel Sharon, later an Israeli defence minister, had no doubt what those skirmishes were all about. `People generally regard 5 June 1967 as the day the Six-day war began,' he said. `That is the official date. But, in reality, it started two- and-a-half years earlier, on the day Israel decided to act against the diversion of the Jordan.'
That brief conflict settled nothing, so once again war erupted in 1973. President Sadat of Egypt wanted to force Israel to the conference table, and to conclude a lasting peace. With the help of Henry Kissinger a peace treaty with Israel was reached in 1979, after the Camp David meetings and accords in 1978.
As the various Israeli-Egyptian committees met to settle the details of the treaty, Israeli delegates suggested that there should be co-operation on water projects. In particular, they wanted about 1 per cent of the Nile flow giving them about 800 million cubic meter to be diverted into a pipeline extending from the peace canal which takes water from the Ismaelia canal east of the delta to Sinai."
Keeping it alive till dd is back.
pd
Update1
Update 2
A small one from the 1st article:
"To implement the 1964 Arab summit resolution, work began on the Syrian and Jordanian side of the border, despite Israel's warning that it would consider it an infringement of national rights. And though all the work was carried out on Arab or neutral land, battles, air raids and artillery duels occurred. In the end, Israeli air strikes deep into Syria forced the Arabs to call off their scheme by destroying the proposed dam site on the Yarmuk river. Had the two dams al-Maquarin and Al-Makhiyabat been completed, they would have deprived Israel of 550 million cubic meter per annum.( In fact Jordan and Syria are proposing to build a new Dam the Unity Dam further upstream, World bank linking the finance with an agreement with Israel, which has not been reached yet.)
General Ariel Sharon, later an Israeli defence minister, had no doubt what those skirmishes were all about. `People generally regard 5 June 1967 as the day the Six-day war began,' he said. `That is the official date. But, in reality, it started two- and-a-half years earlier, on the day Israel decided to act against the diversion of the Jordan.'
That brief conflict settled nothing, so once again war erupted in 1973. President Sadat of Egypt wanted to force Israel to the conference table, and to conclude a lasting peace. With the help of Henry Kissinger a peace treaty with Israel was reached in 1979, after the Camp David meetings and accords in 1978.
As the various Israeli-Egyptian committees met to settle the details of the treaty, Israeli delegates suggested that there should be co-operation on water projects. In particular, they wanted about 1 per cent of the Nile flow giving them about 800 million cubic meter to be diverted into a pipeline extending from the peace canal which takes water from the Ismaelia canal east of the delta to Sinai."
Keeping it alive till dd is back.
pd
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I was in the ARMY back in the late 80's. I found out that the US predicted back in the 50's and 60's that WW3 would be fought over Oil in the Mid-East and not a large scale nuclear exchange that was widely believed.
That is why the US invested billions of dollars creating the National Training Center (NTC) and Twenty Nine Palms out in the Mojave Desert in California back in the early 80's.
I heard stories in the late 90's that by the mid century, when Oil has pretty much run dry, the next World War will be over Drinking Water.
There is truth to what you are reading.
Peace.
That is why the US invested billions of dollars creating the National Training Center (NTC) and Twenty Nine Palms out in the Mojave Desert in California back in the early 80's.
I heard stories in the late 90's that by the mid century, when Oil has pretty much run dry, the next World War will be over Drinking Water.
There is truth to what you are reading.
Peace.
I think the developed countries would be able to get the technology to get drinking water from the oceans before any big wars started over it. The poor countries would still be screwed though unless something was done.
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as far as I know, all they'd have to do is create a structure that moves steam created from bowling water to a place to catch the condensation. Plus this would have a handy by-product: sea-salt. They might also increase the efficiency by using the sea water as a cooling system. Just need something to prevent the salt from rusting the stuff.
edit:
as far as I know, all they'd have to do is create a structure that moves steam created from bowling water to a place to catch the condensation. Plus this would have a handy by-product: sea-salt. They might also increase the efficiency by using the sea water as a cooling system. Just need something to prevent the salt from rusting the stuff.
Sure, only thing the developed countries should do is wait and watch other under-developed countries to go down the drain from the starvation of drinking water. Then they can easily gobble up other's natural resources.
And several poorest-coastal-country-areas with severe water crisis do exactly that. but its so expensive to produce a litre of water that it is un-economical. The practice is centuries old. So it is better to produce salt out of ocean water.
But the point was that, with better technology in hand, several developed countries are helping some chosen ones to steal water from the under-ground water table of the neibouring countries. It is speculated that one of the reason of the recent Palestine-Israel conflict is only that, stealing under-ground water of Palestine by Israel with active technological help of America.
And that is exactly why it is speculated that water will be reason of the next world-wide war.
Regards
dd
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