UK official says oil was part of Lockerbie talks

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090905/ap_on_bi_ge/eu_britain_lockerbie

LONDON – Trade and oil considerations played a major role in the decision to include the Lockerbie bomber in a prisoner transfer agreement between Britain and Libya, a senior British official said in an interview published Saturday.

Justice Secretary Jack Straw said trade, particularly a deal for oil company BP PLC, was "a very big part" of the 2007 negotiations that led to the prisoner deal. The agreement was part of a wider warming of relations between London and Tripoli.

"Libya was a rogue state," Straw was quoted as saying by The Daily Telegraph newspaper. "We wanted to bring it back into the fold and trade is an essential part of it — and subsequently there was the BP deal."

The British government has faced intense criticism over the release of Abdel Baset al-Megrahi, a Libyan convicted in the 1988 bombing of a Pan Am airliner over Lockerbie, Scotland. The attack killed 259 people aboard the plane, most of them American, and 11 on the ground.

Last month Scottish officials freed al-Megrahi, 57, on compassionate grounds because he is dying of prostate cancer.

Although he was not released under the prisoner transfer agreement, opposition politicians, and many victims' families, claim business considerations influenced the decision to free him.

On Wednesday, Prime Minister Gordon Brown insisted there was "no conspiracy, no cover up, no double dealing, no deal on oil" over the bomber's release.

But officials admit the prisoner transfer agreement was part of a wider set of negotiations aimed at bringing Libya in from the international cold, and improving British trade prospects with the oil-rich nation.

David Lidington, foreign affairs spokesman for the main opposition Conservatives, said it was "very hard to square what Jack Straw says today with Gordon Brown's repeated denials of any kind of deal."

"That's why we need an independent inquiry to get to the truth."

Documents released by the government show Straw had originally tried to ensure that al-Megrahi was exempted from any prisoner deal with Libya, but in December 2007 he changed his mind. He wrote in a letter to his Scottish counterpart that "wider negotiations with the Libyans are reaching a critical stage" and a blanket agreement was in "the overwhelming interests for the United Kingdom."

Soon after, Libya ratified a $900 million oil exploration deal with BP. The oil company acknowledged Friday that it had urged the government to sign the prisoner transfer deal, but insisted it had not singled out al-Megrahi as part of the discussion.

Straw said Brown had not been involved in negotiations over the prisoner agreement.

"I certainly didn't talk to the PM," he was quoted as saying. "There is no paper trail to suggest he was involved at all."



Whether he should have been released or not is one thing but to have oil as one of the "major" considerations is pretty tacky IMO.
 
And we knew all along...Why Can't Blair/Bush and Co. be as honest about Iraq?? Who they kidding??:mad: (Lesser of two Evils - which one!)
 
Now the fucking cunt whore fucker pricks admit it after Scotland got flack for the DECISIONS MADE BY WESTMINSTER. Damage Scotland's rep, then admit it. Fucking coward scum cunts.
 
Not surprising in the slightest. It doesn't look good at all, but this is how the world works nowadays so what do you expect.
 
Not surprising in the slightest. It doesn't look good at all, but this is how the world works nowadays so what do you expect.

These kinds of interests have over-riden integrity on such things for centuries ,probably forever.

You have to laugh at the hypocrisy of America though.

Just for the record I was not holding the US up as being any different in such matters.Situational ethics is something we also engage in and have quite a lot.
 
These kinds of interests have over-riden integrity on such things for centuries, probably forever.

Exactly.

Wealth is power and the process of trying to acquire added wealth is far more important than anything else to these people. So yeah it's pretty obvious that if Libya's oil was up for grabs, anything that could be used as a bargaining chip to swing the decision to BP was going to be used to get it.
 
Over 80% of EU oil ...

Over 80% of EU oil comes from the Middle East, far more both aggregate and percentage than any other nation, including the US. This narrow dependency drives everything. And since the results of the Suez Incident of 1956, the EU -- even aggregately -- lacks the power to project and protect it as well.

All other bullshit aside, oil is king, and it's even more of an issue for the EU than the US.
 
Commerce is of greater importance than justice and life - this has always been the case though.
The problem is that the East India Company was a major part, often indirectly but sometimes directly, of the reasons why the US fought to make itself independent of the UK. US state and federal legislators then fought over the concepts of individual v. group v. state v. corporation. At first the US passed a weak set of Articles, and it nearly destroyed this nation. Then it tried to created a strong, federal Constitution and states barked heavily, refusing to ratify it.

The US Bill of Rights exist -- 1:1 -- as a direct result of UK corporate interests. And there has been Common Law after Common Law that has chipped away at it, including Eminent Domain as of late. Many US states are taking more and more issue with federal rulings, and federal -- despite common assumption -- is not absolute in the US.

People think I'm joking, but I said do not be surprised when US states ratify more and more "independent" rulings in their local legislations and state courts stop listening to federal ones, or possibly the US Supreme Court rules in favor of state autonomy. I think it will reach a point where the US will have to consider their actions as possibly causing Texas to leave the union first.

And even that will have commercial implications, as Texas is one of the few states that has resources and some, remaining industrial power to do such independently. So, the question becomes again, at what point does commerce and freedom mix on a more local level to the point that we can stop federal and global non-sense?

It's very much ingrained in many American views that revolution every now and then is not a bad thing. How it happens is a matter of debate, but even justifications for the Confederate States of America are considered very much sound by non-racists. To simplify the matters into slavery and racism is to miss the foundations of corporate greed and other issues that were still problems when this nation was founded.

After all, the individual rights of the individual farmer are aligned with the same foundations of corporate existence as well. That's not me speaking, but those "old white men" some 250 years ago as well. ;)
 
Gordon Brown may as well get a list with the names of the victims of the Lockerbie disaster, put it on the ground and have a big shit on it.


Brown by name, brown by nature :thefinger
 
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