Trump : "SCOTUS ruling on abortion will be overturned but same-sex marriage is settled"

Trump says 17-month-old gay marriage ruling is ‘settled’ law — but 43-year-old abortion ruling isn’t



Donald Trump sent a message about his priorities to social conservatives Sunday on “60 Minutes”: On abortion, I'll keep fighting. On gay marriage, not so much.

But his justification was confusing — and likely will be to some of his biggest supporters in the evangelical community. Trump basically said that the Supreme Court's 17-month-old ruling legalizing gay marriage nationwide is over and done with, but its 43-year-old decision legalizing abortion — Roe v. Wade — shouldn't be. And he did all of this in the course of a few minutes.

Here's the exchange on gay marriage:

LESLEY STAHL: Do you support marriage equality?

TRUMP: It — it’s irrelevant because it was already settled. It’s law. It was settled in the Supreme Court. I mean it’s done.

STAHL: So even if you appoint a judge that —

TRUMP: It’s done. It — you have — these cases have gone to the Supreme Court. They’ve been settled. And, I’m fine with that.

Just prior, though, Trump said he would appoint “pro-life” judges in hopes of reversing Roe v. Wade and sending the issue back to the states:

STAHL: During the campaign, you said that you would appoint justices who were against abortion rights. Will you appoint — are you looking to appoint a justice who wants to overturn Roe v. Wade?

TRUMP: So look, here’s what’s going to happen — I’m going to — I’m pro-life. The judges will be pro-life. They’ll be very —

STAHL: But what about overturning this law —

TRUMP: Well, there are a couple of things. They’ll be pro-life, they’ll be — in terms of the whole gun situation, we know the Second Amendment, and everybody’s talking about the Second Amendment, and they’re trying to dice it up and change it, they’re going to be very pro-Second Amendment. But having to do with abortion if it ever were overturned, it would go back to the states. So it would go back to the states and —

STAHL: Yeah, but then some women won’t be able to get an abortion?

TRUMP: No, it’ll go back to the states.

STAHL: By state — no some —

TRUMP: Yeah, well, they’ll perhaps have to go, they’ll have to go to another state.

To put it mildly, these two positions are irreconcilable. Trump could make the case that the country favors gay marriage more than it does abortion. He could argue that one is simply more important to him because it involves issues of life. He could say it would be easier to overturn one than the other.

But those aren't his arguments. Instead, he props up a 17-month-old decision on gay marriage as settled law, but a 1973 decision on abortion as something that could be overturned. That's having it both ways.

Now, these positions aren't all that dissimilar from the ones he staked out on the campaign trail. There was a Fox News interview back in January in which he said he would “strongly consider” appointing justices that would overturn the gay marriage ruling — Obergefell v. Hodges. “If I'm elected, I would be very strong on putting certain judges on the bench that I think maybe could change things,” Trump said at the time. But otherwise, his position on gay marriage has been that it's settled law, just as it was Sunday.

The real reason he sings a different tune on abortion is because it's become a much bigger deal to social conservatives. This is an issue that has constantly split our country just about down the middle, with the GOP base being extremely passionate about it. Same-sex marriage, on the other hand, is on a clear trajectory toward broad acceptance.

Here's gay marriage:
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and here's abortion :
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Reached Monday, National Organization for Marriage spokesman Joe Grabowski said, “We disagree that Obergefell is ‘settled law,’ and any future Supreme Court should overturn this erroneous decision just as President-elect Trump concedes that a future Supreme Court may overturn Roe.”

Otherwise, though, these groups haven't really reacted to a GOP president-elect basically throwing in the towel on marriage.

But just to be clear: The reason Trump isn't fighting against gay marriage isn't because it's settled law; it's because he doesn't really want or need to. On abortion — an issue on which he once claimed to be “very pro-choice” and then struggled mightily with during the GOP primary — he has no choice.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...led-law-but-43-year-old-abortion-ruling-isnt/


I'm pretty sure that, if it was only up to him, he wouldn't go aftr Roe vs Wade.
I'm pretty sure that, on these issues, Trump is much more progressive than the GOP

Anyway, the good news is that, when Trump won the GOP primaries we won 4 years without having to fear that SCOTUS would overturn its ruling on gay-marriage.

The one candidate that beated Hillary is the most gay-friendly republican candidate in History.

Suck it up, Ted Cuz, Mike Huckabee, Rick Santorum, Kim Davis, Louis Gohmert, Rick Wiles, Bryan Fisher, etc...
 
Re: Trump : "SCOTUS ruling on abortion will be overturned but same-sex marriage is settled"

I aint letting them have any of my sperm. no way no how-
 
Re: Trump : "SCOTUS ruling on abortion will be overturned but same-sex marriage is settled"

I think I am just going to post the same response on these threads for the next four years.

Hillary isn't president, so I don't give a fuck what the Donald does.
 

meesterperfect

Hiliary 2020
Re: Trump : "SCOTUS ruling on abortion will be overturned but same-sex marriage is settled"

Nobody is taking away abortions.
It is the womans choice regardless of what the sperm donor, as they think of the father, says.
The only issues with abortion are partial birth, late term , and minors regarding parent notification and/or consent.

Anytime a politician in office on a Federal level says, "It's up to the states to decide" , 99 out of 100 times that is a good thing.

Johan and anybody else who is still getting and actually trusting the MSM or what some call the Corporate Media for your information please consider this.
They run in modes.
For 8 years they were in Obama mode.They painted a rosey picture on anything that came from Obama.
Then the election came and they went into Hiliary mode and destroy Trump mode.
We know for certain that this was planned and scripted by the wikileaks emails.
Hoist up HC and ignore all the serious crimes, corruption and scandals while attacking Trump in every way possible.
Campaign for her, get her in office, and follow the same script as they did with Obamo.

But Trump won and now they are crapping their trousers because they sold their souls the Clinton and they know Trump knows this.
They are partly responsible for Trump winning because theyre bias and propaganda was so obvious an intense that many many people who once trusted them became aware that they are not honest, they do lie, and they do have an agenda in which truth is usually irrelevent.
So now that HC lost they need to make a new plan.
So what mode are they in now?
If you think that mode will include actual journalism with honesty and integrity that na ga happen.

It looks like they are going to go into attack mode for the next 4 years.
But its a slippery slope because they also need to win back their credibilty if they want to survive.
So we'll see.
Anything other than reporting news honestly is really a crime against the people in my opinion.
 
Re: Trump : "SCOTUS ruling on abortion will be overturned but same-sex marriage is settled"

i think i am just going to post the same response on these threads for the next four years.

Hillary isn't president, so i don't give a fuck what the donald does.


i totally fucking agree
 
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