Trump, Asked Again About Putin, Suggests U.S. Isn’t ‘So Innocent’

[Straight Shooter]

President Trump defends Russian President Vladimir Putin in a new interview, saying he respects the Russian leader.

"I do respect him ... I respect a lot of people but that doesn't mean I'm going to get along with him," Trump said during an interview with Fox News's Bill O'Reilly.

"He's a leader of his country. I say it's better to get along with Russia than not, and if Russia helps us in the fight against ISIS – which is a major fight, and Islamic terrorism all over the world – that's a good thing. Will I get along with him? I have no idea."

O'Reilly pressed Trump on his statement, saying, "But he's a killer though. Putin's a killer."

"There are a lot of killers. We've got a lot of killers. What, you think our country is so innocent?" Trump responded.

The interview is scheduled to air Sunday afternoon before the Super Bowl.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/317945-trump-defends-putin-you-think-our-country-is-so-innocent

Remember when Conservativeland lost their minds over Obama's Apology Tour? Will they use the same standard with Trump?

Once again everyone is full of shit

 

[sean miguel]

Yeah, that's pretty bad. Like Trump saying President Bush lied to get us into Iraq.

The only thing I can say to that is Justice Gorsuch and the nominees in the pipeline. And that Dow.

 

[meesterperfect]

If Trump actually said that he's not full of shit he's 100% correct.
If you or anybody else is saying otherwise then they are full of shit.

Lets use a recent example.
Libya 2011.
Gadaffi had already stepped down years before to appease the US GOV.
In Libya bearded muslims were not allowed. Any radical muslim was deported or imprisoned. Radical Muslims were not tolerated in Libya.
Libya was the richest country in Africa and Gadaffi shared the wealth with his people.
The people of Libya loved Gadaffi.
Everything was cheap.
Women had equal rights.
Education was 100% free. The Gov would pay for every Libyan education as far as their brain would take them from car mechanic to neuro surgeon.
Medical was 100% free. And if you needed medical attention outside of Libya the Gov would pay for it and pay for someone to go with you.
Electricity and utilities were free.
When you got married you got a gift of 5K from the GOV.
Each child born got a gift of 40K.
Everyone had a home. Gadaffi built thousands of homes for the people. It cost 10% of your income for 20 years then it was yours.
The cities were some of the safest in the world. Tripoli for example was a very beautiful city. Not anymore.
Gadaffi tapped into a huge fresh water supply and pipelined it to all its people. Fresh clean water for all.
He built huge food warehouses for all Libyans to access for free. Nobody went hungry and nobody was homeless unless they wanted to be.
No people anywhere or anytime in history ever had it so good. A more humane society and peaceful people never lived.

But what got him killed was The Gold backed denar.
He created The Bank of Africa which was a banking system backed by actual gold.
Many African countries were on board. It wasn't just for Libya but all of Africa and the Middle East.
He knew that under the World Bank that Africa would always be in poverty and debt.
This banking system would have crushed the Zionist world bank within a few years. That included the Federal Reserve. The people of Africa would have prospered.

So what did the UN and the US backed by hiliary do to Libya at the behest of their masters, the Zionist bankers?
Well they carpet bombed it for a few weeks. Destroyed the most pristine Roman and other ancient sites to rubble.
Killed a few hundred thousand civilians. There were women having miscairrages every night and people , even young people having heart attacks everyday from the nonstop bombing. Carpet bombed the cities into rubble. Could you imagine living through that. Most people would curl up and shut down. Lose their minds.
They dropped more tons bombs on Libya than all of WWII combined in just a few weeks. Destroyed damn near everything and killed 100's of thousands of human beings in a country of only 6 million.
And Libya never even fired a shot in their defense.
Then they rolled in the helicopters and shot every living thing that moved dead for a few days. If you popped your head out on the street you were dead.

Then the fun began.
From US warships rolled in the bearded mercenaries with their trucks.
They went in a killed every living thing that moved.
They set up rape houses in the mosques were they raped then murdered the women and children by the thousands.
If you were Black they chopped you up. Literally chopped the blacks up in pieces with blades.
Even ripping blacks out of hospital beds , taking them outside and hacking them to pieces.
There were mountains of body parts everywhere. Heads, arms, legs.
And the US paid these sick fucks to do all this from the billions in gold, cash, and other resources that Libya was so rich with....after they lined their pockets of course.
No horror story or movie could ever come close to what the UNITED STATES GOV did to the people of Libya.
The people of Libya are now destroyed. Their lives are a livig hell. Their country is destroyed and they have to live under the same bearded muslims funded by the USA that the USA claims to be fighting. And Hiliary and Mccain were the two main creatures who were responsible for this genocide.

They tried to do the same to Syria but Syria fought back then Russia stepped in and ruined it for the US GOV.
That is why Russia is suddenly our enemy. And Iran was next.
Now it seems they have to back off Syria and go right to Iran. Iran ain't Libya and Iran has powerful allies.
If they are psychopathic enough to attack Iran the world will finally stomp us out of existence once and for all.
No doubt about it.

That is all fact.
Want to know about other places the US GOV invaded?
So yes If Trump said that he is 100% correct and I'm glad he had the balls to say it.

 

[Straight Shooter]

I believe that many of these decisions were motivated by a sincere desire to protect the American people. But I also believe that all too often our government made decisions based on fear rather than foresight; that all too often our government trimmed facts and evidence to fit ideological predispositions.

Agree or disagree?

 

[bodie54]

Remember when Conservativeland lost their minds over Obama's Apology Tour?

The Limbaugh fantasy that never actually happened?
Sure, who could forget.
Even when presented with incontrovertible evidence to the contrary legions of them still believe that bullshit.

Will they use the same standard with Trump?

Rhetorical question?
Not a chance in hell :1orglaugh

 

[meesterperfect]

I believe that many of these decisions were motivated by a sincere desire to protect the American people. But I also believe that all too often our government made decisions based on fear rather than foresight; that all too often our government trimmed facts and evidence to fit ideological predispositions.

Agree or disagree?


Disagree.
Our country was taken over by a shadow government at least by Nov. 1963.
By the 1980's that criminal element had full control.
In 2001 it became a mass murdering criminal element and the world in their eyes is there to be pillaged and robbed.
At this point the politicians are all on board and the few that aren't know to keep silent.

Since 2001 the atrocities that this shadow government have commited are as bad or worse than any other form of power has ever done.
They control the media and by now nearly every American believes in a reality that is not real. There has never been a more powerful propaganda force ever. About as close to the Matrix as can be.
There never was a war on terror, it never existed.
It was a psy-op to get the backing of the people behind what they thought was a real thing.
It worked great for about 10 years until people started waking up.
Eisenhower warned of this in his farewell speech. Too bad he didn't do more to expose it more.

Its a pyramid with the bankers who control most of the worlds currency on top.
They have unlimited funds. They have the power to buy anyone and destroy economies with the stroke of a pen. They are globalists, they are mostly zionists masquerading as jews who have a definite goal of total world control.
Below them are the CIA, Top military, and all the other government agencies and private businesses who profit from war.
War profiteers.
The politicians are just their minions doing their bidding and getting very rich for it.
To these people human life means nothing. They believe in nothing except for the here and now.
Thats who controls the world and every war and invasion is for them alone. All wars have been for them since at least WWI.
Its a club. And they have been using the United States as goons to go around beating and bullying the world for a long time while the suck the wealth out of all sides involved.
That is what our country has become and thats why it is in a perpetual downward spiral.

President Trump can end 90% of the worlds problems almost overnight.
He just has to sign off on using the Federal Reserve private bank which is our right to do.
No more debt based paper and ink that can never be paid off.
Then tell them to stick their 20 trillion we owe them up their asses sideways.
Its really not that hard to do.

 

[bodie54]

There never was a war on terror, it never existed.
It was a psy-op to get the backing of the people behind what they thought was a real thing.
It worked great for about 10 years until people started waking up.

If it worked great for about 10 years how come a good sized majority of democratic congressmen voted against invading Iraq in 2003?

 

[meesterperfect]

If it worked great for about 10 years how come a good sized majority of democratic congressmen voted against invading Iraq in 2003?

Some weren't in the club.
But mostly it was for show.
Gotta keep us thinking there are 2 sides , but there isn't.
The 2016 elections proved that conclusively.
Before Trump came along they could hide it well but the closer he got the more of them had to show their true colors.
It's a club. Its all a show.
There has been 1 party for decades. The never ending war party.
The fuck the people over while we get richer and richer party.

Sorry. I know its a lot to take in.

 

[bodie54]

Some weren't in the club.
But mostly it was for show.
Gotta keep us thinking there are 2 sides , but there isn't.

But Mr P, the invasion of Iraq split the American people in two like a meat cleaver.
And we've remained that divided ever since.

 

[Jack Davenport]

Yeah, that's pretty bad. Like Trump saying President Bush lied to get us into Iraq.

The only thing I can say to that is Justice Gorsuch and the nominees in the pipeline. And that Dow.

:1orglaugh

 

[Jack Davenport]

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/317945-trump-defends-putin-you-think-our-country-is-so-innocent

Remember when Conservativeland lost their minds over Obama's Apology Tour? Will they use the same standard with Trump?

Once again everyone is full of shit

Trump has dealt with the U.S. government more than 99 percent of the population. His worldview is entirely different and he probably knows first hand how ruthless they can be. So he probably does believe they are capable of dirty tactics.

As for apology tours.. he made the comment to Bill O'Reilly. How does that compare to making such comments on foreign soil?

You're full of shit and grasping at straws.

 

[LunaMo]

I believe that many of these decisions were motivated by a sincere desire to protect the American people. But I also believe that all too often our government made decisions based on fear rather than foresight; that all too often our government trimmed facts and evidence to fit ideological predispositions.

Agree or disagree?


Disagree.
Our country was taken over by a shadow government at least by Nov. 1963.
By the 1980's that criminal element had full control.
In 2001 it became a mass murdering criminal element and the world in their eyes is there to be pillaged and robbed.
At this point the politicians are all on board and the few that aren't know to keep silent.

Since 2001 the atrocities that this shadow government have commited are as bad or worse than any other form of power has ever done.
They control the media and by now nearly every American believes in a reality that is not real. There has never been a more powerful propaganda force ever. About as close to the Matrix as can be.
There never was a war on terror, it never existed.
It was a psy-op to get the backing of the people behind what they thought was a real thing.
It worked great for about 10 years until people started waking up.
Eisenhower warned of this in his farewell speech. Too bad he didn't do more to expose it more.

Its a pyramid with the bankers who control most of the worlds currency on top.
They have unlimited funds. They have the power to buy anyone and destroy economies with the stroke of a pen. They are globalists, they are mostly zionists masquerading as jews who have a definite goal of total world control.
Below them are the CIA, Top military, and all the other government agencies and private businesses who profit from war.
War profiteers.
The politicians are just their minions doing their bidding and getting very rich for it.
To these people human life means nothing. They believe in nothing except for the here and now.
Thats who controls the world and every war and invasion is for them alone. All wars have been for them since at least WWI.
Its a club. And they have been using the United States as goons to go around beating and bullying the world for a long time while the suck the wealth out of all sides involved.
That is what our country has become and thats why it is in a perpetual downward spiral.

President Trump can end 90% of the worlds problems almost overnight.
He just has to sign off on using the Federal Reserve private bank which is our right to do.
No more debt based paper and ink that can never be paid off.
Then tell them to stick their 20 trillion we owe them up their asses sideways.
Its really not that hard to do.

Unfortunately, I think you might be right

 

[meesterperfect]

But Mr P, the invasion of Iraq split the American people in two like a meat cleaver.
And we've remained that divided ever since.

That didn't and that doesn't change anything.
The media portrays republicans a the bad guy. Its part of the show
So thats the biggest reason why many people were against the Iraq invasion.
However nothing at all changed under Barry, in fact it got more aggressive and more barbaric.
But where did all those anti war people go come 2009?
They werent propagandized to be anti war anymore.
Now after 8 years of brainwashing they are fighting for the very same government they opposed 8 years earlier.
Americans are the most brainwashed and out of touch with reality people that probably ever existed.

No matter what I say youre gonna pull down the shutters.
You were raised the same as me. Greatest Country in the World, always on the side of right.
Superman even fought for us.
Think of the USA as your child. You raised it, you did everything right. It was a beautiful smart child with so much potential.
But as it got older it turned into a lying, theiving , alcoholic junkie.
Everybody can see it but you because you still see that beautiful child thats long gone.

Sorry to get so deep here. In short your government has been taken over by criminals.
Thats what Trump meant by the need to Drain the Swamp, but I don't think he had any idea how deep the swamp is.

The real story of what was done to Libya proves everything I've been saying. From the main reason being the Bank of Africa to the undeniable truth that the USA controls, funds, and arms the Muslim Brotherhood and all their mercenary offshoots along with Saudi Arabia. The same enemy they are supposedly fighting against in the phony war on terror.
Also Africom. The US African Command of Africa.
This is the US controlling all of Africa to use as a command base against war with China.
They had to destroy Libya in the most violent brutal way to show other Brown people countries what will happen to them if they resist.
US soldiers would not have done such things so they used the bearded mercenaries.

And Benghazi never had a US embassy. That was in Tripoli. It was a safe house.
Stevens was in charge of running weapons from Libya to Syria for the terrorists to use against the Syrian government.
But the US was getting serious heat from many countries around Libya over this and Stevens was trying to get back some of the weapons. He couldn't.
He fucked up his job. He had to go.
He was dead before the bearded mercenaries ever got there. They just grabbed his body and abused it for the cameras.
It was all planned and set up by the US GOV.

 

[zeeblofowl_1969]

Unfortunately, I think you might be right

Then a hole appears in his cranium and some lone nut is fingered yada yada yada....

 

[meesterperfect]

Then a hole appears in his cranium and some lone nut is fingered yada yada yada....

Not sure I understand but I know its an insult.
I know zee. You arent ready. Its too much for some people.
Willfull ignorance is much more comfortable.
You do know the GOV is corrupt. You do know they lie about basically everything.
You sense something is wrong but you can't pinpoint exactly what.

Then you create this moral line in your head that they will not cross. The problem is that you created that moral line based on your own morality.
Do you think these people have the same morals you do?

 

[xfire]

The media portrays republicans a the bad guy. Its part of the show

So are they the bad guy? They're part of the GOVT, after all, doesn't that make them default bad guys? And Trump, a billionaire, he's a good guy, too right? Of course now he's become the establishment. Things are so confusing. Or are they?

 

[Straight Shooter]

 

[meesterperfect]

So are they the bad guy? They're part of the GOVT, after all, doesn't that make them default bad guys? And Trump, a billionaire, he's a good guy, too right? Of course now he's become the establishment. Things are so confusing. Or are they?

Are republicans bad guys?
1st you have to acknowledge that both partys are 2 sides of the same coin.
The politicians on the top of the US political pyramid are equally corrupt.
They use things like gay rights and abortion to make the naive think they are different but when it comes down to the grand scheme of things they are both exactly the same. They serve the bankers, big biz, and the war profiteers.
They could not have even come close to getting where they are if they weren't bought and paid for.
Thats how the system works.

Of course each party wants a PREZ that is part of their party this way they can do their masters bidding more efficiently, but it really doesn't matter much.
But then came Trump. Both partys ganged up on him because he was not one of them.
If the 2016 election did not prove that to anyone then nothing will.
As far as Trump becoming part of the DC establishment I don't know.
Too early to see. He's new on the job. He has people around him advising him and I don't know where these people stand and how much Trump is doing what they tell him to do.
Threatening China, Russia and Iran right out of the gate is not a good sign.

Like I said its either gonna be an administration that concentrates on building the economy or one like we've had for at least the past 4 terms which is a wartime economy that sucks the wealth out of the 99%.
Can't have both at the same time.

 

[xfire]

MP, I hate to break it to you, but I think you fell for a con. I can understand the "at least it's not her" crowd, but you seem to genuinely believe that Trump is wearing a white hat.

 

[meesterperfect]

I don't know what white hat means.
What was the con I fell for?