Study questions US strategy against al-Qaida

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080729/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/us_al_qaida;_ylt=ArYIUMd0J_BQ0E7nkLjH_jxI2ocA

WASHINGTON - The United States can defeat al-Qaida if it relies less on ***** and more on policing and intelligence to root out the ****** group's leaders, a new study contends.

"Keep in mind that terrorist groups are not eradicated overnight," said the study by the federally funded Rand research center, an organization that counsels the Pentagon.

Its report said that the use of military ***** by the United States or other countries should be reserved for quelling large, well-armed and well-organized insurgencies, and that American officials should stop using the term "war on ******" and replace it with "counterterrorism."

Terrorists should be perceived and described as criminals, not holy warriors, and our analysis suggests there is no battlefield solution to terrorism," said Seth Jones, the lead author of the study and a Rand political scientist.

"The United States has the necessary instruments to defeat al-Qaida, it just needs to shift its strategy," Jones said.

Nearly every ally, including Britain and Australia, has stopped using "war on ******" to describe strategy against the group headed by Osama bin Laden and considered responsible for the Sept. 11, 2001 suicide attacks at the World Trade Center in New York and the Pentagon."




So this govt funded study says treat them like criminals and drop analogy of it as a war.Isn't that exactly what John Kerry said should be our approach?
But I guess "war" is a better propaganda phrase so thats what Bush went with ,too bad a very flawed policy went along with that propaganda.
 

Jagger69

Three lullabies in an ancient tongue
Well, to paraphrase George Carlin, we love war. That's why we are always declaring war on things.....the war on *****, the war on poverty, the war on ******. Maybe it's just semantics but I agree, it's not a war. These people are international outlaws and should be dealt with as such.
 
How do you declare a legit war against people who has no soverign nation, who has no recognizable army, who has no country at all? War on ****** is like saying cereals with cereals. It's a plain stupid phrase. And as Jagger69 said, these people who perform terrorist acts (defined and classed by international standards) are criminals. They serve no other man than themselves. And those nations who decide to fund or help criminals should be treated as ones. Last time I checked it was kinda hard for a nation to declare war against a criminal as there is no actual soverign nation to declare war at. So, "war on ******" is about the stupidiest I ever heard.

now, where is McRocket. I loved him discussing threads such as this one. ****, i miss him!
 
You guys could always go Vlad the Impaler on their asses. I'm sure seeing thousands of their comrades impaled on wooden poles might make them think twice about screwing with you guys. How can you win a battle against a group if you're playing by the rules and they aren't?
 

Torre82

Moderator \ Jannie
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You guys could always go Vlad the Impaler on their asses. I'm sure seeing thousands of their comrades impaled on wooden poles might make them think twice about screwing with you guys. How can you win a battle against a group if you're playing by the rules and they aren't?

Hmm, agreed. Just keep ******* until Osama gives up, or we run outta people.

But, eh.. that'd spawn a whole bunch more dedicated peoples who vow to bring down the U.S. and friends. I mean.. not like that isnt happening anyway but.. I dunno. There's no real cure to such things. If it were possible one could just drop a nuke and "Let G_d sort 'em out". But the sanctions and retaliation might border on M.A.D.
 
Hmm, agreed. Just keep ******* until Osama gives up, or we run outta people.

But, eh.. that'd spawn a whole bunch more dedicated peoples who vow to bring down the U.S. and friends. I mean.. not like that isnt happening anyway but.. I dunno. There's no real cure to such things. If it were possible one could just drop a nuke and "Let G_d sort 'em out". But the sanctions and retaliation might border on M.A.D.


Yeah why don't we just nuke everybody were bound to get em that way!!!:thumbsup:
Some of the ideas you read around here Torre are really something policymakers should listen too,so wise,so thoughtfull wouldn't you say?:rolleyes:
 
You guys could always go Vlad the Impaler on their asses. I'm sure seeing thousands of their comrades impaled on wooden poles might make them think twice about screwing with you guys. How can you win a battle against a group if you're playing by the rules and they aren't?
I'm overwhelmed by the irony...
 

Legzman

what the fuck you lookin at?
They had to have a study to question the strategy? I've been questioning the strategy from before day one!
 
Well, to paraphrase George Carlin, we love war. That's why we are always declaring war on things.....the war on *****, the war on poverty, the war on ******.

Maybe we should stop calling it that considering those three and kicking our asses.
 
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