All that may be true, but Bayern never said they were forcing Owen to go somewhere other than United, they were forcing him to stay, period. I don't believe in forcing anyone, anything. I can't stand all those bitches Rumenigge, Hoeness, the others too. Beckenbauer I can stand. The team themselves, I like. But the reason I hate Chelsea and Madrid is the same... the people that own and run the club and the way they do their business and the things they say and the fact they think they rule the world. Sorry, no matter how you put it, no matter what the explanation, Bayern forced a player who did not want to be at Bayern to stay. Many other clubs have done this including Chelsea, and they all lose my respect.