So another bank burns a handful of billions

Rey C.

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It looks like "The Whale" (Bruno Iksil) has finally taken a harpoon to the heart. I also heard on Bloomberg that the positions that caused the $2 billion trading loss haven't been exited by JPMorgan or many of the traders on the other side of it. So, according to Bloomberg, if the counter-traders are correct, that $2 billion loss could swell to as much as $3 billion or more before JPMorgan is able to unwind/exit the trades.

The $2 billion trading loss at JPMorgan Chase has claimed another victim.

Bruno Iksil, the so-called London whale at the center of the trading debacle, is leaving the bank, according to current and former colleagues. The timing of the departure is unclear.

Mr. Iksil gained notoriety last month after reports that he built up outsized positions that distorted prices in an obscure corner of the credit markets. The holdings proved disastrous for the bank. Last week, JPMorgan disclosed $2 billion in trading losses, indicating that the final cost could be much higher. Jamie Dimon, the bank’s chief executive, called the wounds “self inflicted.”

His exit follows the resignation Monday of Ina Drew, the 55-year-old banker who oversaw the disastrous trade as head of the chief investment office. Achilles Macris, a top JPMorgan official in London and a senior London trader, Javier Martin-Artajo, are also expected to leave.

JPMorgan declined to comment.

London Whale Said to Leave JPMorgan
 

bobjustbob

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6 weeks to burn $2 billion. In another week it turns to 3. The SEC shouild send helicopters on a night raid to those offices.
 

bobjustbob

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Jamie Dimon heading up to capitol hill to testify in June. This shit should be on pay per view. Roasting on a spit just in time for grilling season.
 

Rey C.

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It seems that JPMorgan Chase established such a HUGE position in this derivatives market that they now can't exit these trades... without driving the prices even lower. According to this Bloomberg report, the potential loss from this "hedge trade" now stands at roughly $5 billion! :eek: From $2 billion to $3 billion and now, in less than a week, $5 billion?! :facepalm: Exotic derivatives are WAY above anything that I've ever done. On occasion I've traded options... but usually just generic covered call trades to protect a long stock position, or put trades that were established instead of trying to short a stock. But when I heard Warren Buffett say that even he didn't fully understand some of these "synthetic derivatives" back in 2009, that told me that semi-traditional banks have NO business playing in these markets with depositors' money!

Despite the faux libertarian chatter from people like Michelle Caruso-Cabrera, no one is suggesting that the largest banks be restricted to only making "little, tiny loans". She is such a clueless, hyperbolic wingnut (she has the tits for Fox Business News... too bad she got beaten by an ugly stick at birth - so I guess they won't pick her up). But as the same talking head who questioned the end of capitalism the Friday before the stock market took off on a bull market run, that no one in my generation has ever seen, all I can say about her is, she should be happy that CNBC pays her, despite her not having as much sense as an empty thimble.

I thought a hedge was supposed to limit the risk on an an overriding position - not establish more risk than the overriding position. But what do I know?

JPMorgan Chase & Co. (JPM)’s loss from derivatives trading may widen to $5 billion, the Wall Street Journal reported.

Chief Executive Officer Jamie Dimon personally approved the strategy that led to the trades, without monitoring how they were executed, the newspaper said, citing people familiar with the matter that it didn’t identify. His failure to closely regulate that activity caused resentment among executives whose departments face tighter oversight, according to the Journal.

JPMorgan last week announced a $2 billion trading loss on synthetic credit products, or derivatives tied to credit performance. Dimon said the transactions, intended to manage risk, were “egregious” failures by the bank’s chief investment office. JPMorgan has said the amount could increase by $1 billion or more as it winds down the positions.

Joseph Evangelisti, a spokesman for New York-based JPMorgan, declined to comment on the $5 billion estimate.
 

bobjustbob

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When this story first broke it was just a drop in the bucket compared to the billions of profit the bank earned. Drip, drip, drip, drip. Sure they'll return that money to the depositors that they grabbed the money from. How much is it going to be Jamie? When are they going to see their money? You and the board going to be exercising any of your options coming up?
 

georges

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knowing how bad the leman's brothers bank went, I am absolutely not astonished of this
 
An adjusted and regulated free trade economy is best.

:)
 

Rey C.

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Jamie Dimon is NOT worried about this loss

Even though the stock is down almost 2% just today, it's good to hear that Mr. Jamie isn't worried (I guess his annual bonus must be safe).

CEO not worried about extent of losses but markets remain volatile

NEW YORK (MarketWatch) — J.P. Morgan Chase & Co. will suspend its share buyback program in the wake of a $2 billion-plus trading loss, the bank’s chief executive said on Monday, as he declined to give a “running tally” on the loss.

Speaking at a New York conference organized by Deutsche Bank, Jamie Dimon, chairman and chief executive of J.P. Morgan JPM, also reiterated that the bank will maintain its dividend. Shares of J.P. Morgan slipped 0.8% in late-morning trading, bringing its monthly losses to nearly 23%.

“I am not sitting here worried about the ultimate loss in this thing,” Dimon said. “But we are not through it yet. It’s going to be volatile. I’m not that worried about it right now except that it’s very volatile right now.”
 

bobjustbob

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Ha. JP Morgan had started a nice ride mid January and issue some 4.5% bonds to raise $3 billion. So they take that money AND DEPOSITORS MONEY and shovel it into their high risks. Plan a buyback before the stock peaks. Rake it in after the buyback and get the depositors money back before they know it's gone borrowed at no interest. What a fucking scam. I think I've seen this before.

 
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