Religion does not make you a better person, study says

So Much For Religious People Being More Righteous


So much for religious people being more righteous than non-believers.

Sure-to-be-controversial new research shows that religious and non-religious people are equally likely to misbehave. The only difference between the groups is that religious people show stronger emotional reactions to moral and immoral deeds.

“To our knowledge, it’s the first study that directly assesses how morality plays out in people’s everyday lived experience,” Dr. Linda Skitka, a psychologist at the University of Illinois at Chicago and the co-author of a paper describing the research, said in a written statement.

For the study, a team of researchers, led by psychologist Prof. Dr. Wilhelm Hofmann of the University of Cologne in Cologne, Germany, recruited 1,252 men and women between the ages of 18 and 68. The study participants, all of whom were from the U.S. or Canada, completed an initial survey to indicate their level of religiosity -- from "not at all" to "very much." The survey also showed where the men and women fell on the political spectrum, from "very liberal" to "very conservative."

Next, the subjects received surveys via text message five times a day for three days. In these surveys, the men and women described any moral and immoral acts they had committed, witnessed, been the target of, or heard about within the past hour -- examples included "I gave a homeless man an extra sandwich that I had," or "I caught my teenage son looking at hard core porn." For each act, they described what had happened and how they had felt about it.

What did the researchers find? Religious and non-religious people alike reported experiencing around the same number of moral acts. Furthermore, no difference was found between liberals and conservatives. People reported committing good deeds more often than bad ones, and reported hearing about bad deeds more often than good ones.

The researchers also found that people who benefited from good deeds often "paid them forward," doing something good for someone else later on.

The only differences between the religious and non-religious people included how they felt about and described moral acts. Religious people were more likely to express pride over performing moral acts, gratefulness over benefitting from moral acts, and guilt and disgust over immoral ones. Conservatives and liberals differed in the kinds of moral acts that they focused on.

"Liberals more often mention moral phenomena related to fairness and honesty," co-author Dan Wisneski, a psychology professor at Saint Peter's University in Jersey City, N.J., told LiveScience. "Conservatives more often mention moral phenomena related to loyalty and disloyalty or sanctity and degradation."

While these findings may provide a small peek into how moral we all are, psychologists hope to use more smartphone surveys to learn more about how we interact with each other in the real world.

“This kind of technology could be used to see how communities respond to sociologically relevant events like a terrorist attack, a basketball victory, or extreme weather—all things that seem to pull people together,” Dr. Jonathan Haidt, a social psychologist at New York University’s Stern School of Business who was not involved in the study, told Wired. “If you’re tracking people over time, it would be interesting to see if people do more nice things for each other, if they’re more trusting and cooperative, when the local team wins. If there’s a threat, does everyone band together, or do people band together along ethnic lines or lines of similarity?”

The paper was published on Sept. 12 in the journal Science.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/17/religious-more-moral-atheists_n_5822492.html

You though being conservative and christian makes you better, gives you more morality than liberal atheists ? You thought all those atheists liberals had no moirals ? Sorry, you were wrong !
 

Will E Worm

Conspiracy...
Lies.

These "studies" are a joke.


Not only a happier person, but a better person. Link


There's too many people that have had their lives changed for the btter, because of their faith.
 
There's too many people that have had their lives changed for the btter, because of their faith.
And their's even more people that have their live ruined because of religions. Not mentioning those who were killed because of religions.

Anyway, your article backs his argue on two sociologist who don't seem to have conducted any research on the effects of religion, they seem just to speak their mind (otherwise, I guess the article would mention their articles, studies, etc...).
The article also mentions "overwhelming research evidence" but seems unable to mention any specific article or research or study... They mention "Research conducted decades ago on Mormons, Seventh Day Adventists, and the Amish" but don't can't name (or hotlink) any of these resrarch. Which wouldn't be very relevant since they were made "decades" ago...
 
I think people being secure in their faith is good. It's when they go to Church acting all Pius basically framing their image as good people that much of it turns into phony-baloney nonsense. The "Big Irishman" Catholic Church guy of my family does more Unchristian things in front of the family than I do for sure. At least I can handle my liquor.
 
"There is overwhelming research evidence that people can live longer if they actively engage in formal religious activities and follow their faith's behavioral prescriptions. This is especially true for religions that espouse healthy diets and discourage smoking and alcohol."

that's not God, that's a healthy lifestyle
 
It's not so much that religion isn't making people better as everybody's failing keep them from being better if they are religious or not. Religion often offers a convenient excuse to engage in bad things even when it contradicts their very faith. The seduction to do wrong is more powerful than doing the right thing to them.
 
"There is overwhelming research evidence that people can live longer if they actively engage in formal religious activities and follow their faith's behavioral prescriptions. This is especially true for religions that espouse healthy diets and discourage smoking and alcohol."

that's not God, that's a healthy lifestyle

which religion forbids you to smoke ? I know one religion that forbids people to drink alcohol : Islam
 
Lies.

These "studies" are a joke.


Not only a happier person, but a better person. Link


There's too many people that have had their lives changed for the btter, because of their faith.
There are also too many whom have had their lives ended because of religion. When the 'enlightened' can learn to leave the rest of the world alone and keep their 'beliefs' to themselves will I tolerate it.
 
Jehovah's Witness also prohibit smoking.
But they also prohibit blood transfusions. I guess you can't tell it's a religion that makes you healthier, that would allow you to live longer...
 

BlkHawk

Closed Account
But they also prohibit blood transfusions. I guess you can't tell it's a religion that makes you healthier, that would allow you to live longer...

They have odd prohibitions my friend is member, and shaved his beard due to a prohibition. Mustache = OK, Beard = No. Makes no sense to me, but he is happy in life, so whatever floats his boat.
 

georges

Moderator
Staff member
Socialism and Communism haven't made people's lives better, one must be a fucking fool to believe it
 
Socialism and Communism haven't made people's lives better, one must be a fucking fool to believe it
Then nobody's fucking fool 'cause nobody says so. This thread is about being religious or not and how it affects your morals, socialism and communism are off-topic (unless you consider them to be religions).
 
I don't know. Why don't people just treat people the way they'd want to be treated? Like do you need a Bible to tell you that? Just common sense.

Yeah, I would probably classify myself as religious, but I agree with what you said. It's not like treating each other right is some unfathomable cosmic secret or a hard thing to do. It's just a matter of the will to follow through with doing it. It's just unfortunate that doing something else is often more important to some people.
 

Legzman

what the fuck you lookin at?
Religion is a crock of shit. In fact it's the main cause of war, which is fueled by greed. And politics plays a huge role in both!
 

Ace Boobtoucher

Founder and Captain of the Douchepatrol
Religion is a crock of shit. In fact it's the main cause of war, which is fueled by greed. And politics plays a huge role in both!

You're full of shit. And here's why. The Encyclopedia of Wars estimates there have been 1763 documented wars. Of those wars, 123 have been classified to involve a religious conflict. That's 7%. Religion may be a secondary cause of war but most wars through history have been ideologically or politically driven.

More people have died due to the ideology of communism/socialism/fascism than to religious beliefs. Communist ideology necessitates ruling over others. Nazi ideology necessitates elimination of “inferior” races. These two systems accounted for the deaths of 50-70 million people and neither has anything to do with religion.

http://de-conversion.com/2008/08/01/mythbusters-without-religion-there-would-be-no-war/

I am NOT, of course, suggesting, as some do, that atheism leads, ever and always, to anarchy, bloodshed, etc. I am merely endeavoring to establish that the religious are no more a danger to humankind than the irreligious. Or, to put it in other words, the irreligious are no less prone to senseless violence than the religious.

Myth: BUSTED!

And that's coming from another assho........atheist.
 
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