Porn : Is it a "decent" job ? A respectable industry ?

[Johan]

Most of the time, when the medias talk about porn, it's only to paint it as a crappy industry, filled with lustful producers exploiting young innocent girls who end up here either because they needed the money and weren't qualified for a "normal" job or because they had their mind messed up due to traumatic sexual experience (rape, pedophilia, etc.).

But when you actually take the time to listen to the very people who happen to be in that industry, people such as Angela White, Asa Akira, Lena Paul, Manuel Ferrara, Ivy Lebelle, Holly Randall, Bree Mills, Keiran Leen, Steve Holmes, and many more, they wouls tell you that they are normal people, they enjoy their job, they don't agree with the stigma, that they aren't on drugs, they aren't messed up in the head.
They would tell you that porn is an industry and that's it's no different from any other industry, that there's some bad apples, some companies which happen to have terrible policies just like some restaurant have terrible hygiene and that you are likely to get sick if you eat there, that some performers/directors/producers are pieces of garbage, just like some cops, lawyers, reporters or athletes are horrible human beings, that some girls use drugs just like some TV hosts, musiciand, traders, etc.

Yet, medias would rather refer to Mia Khalifa's interview on the BBC rather than ask Angela White about her opinion on porn industry, would rather remind people about Ron Jeremy's sexual misconducts rather than listen to Manuel Ferrara explaining that he would rather cancel a shooting rather than work with a girl he feels is not enjoying herself.

To me, YES, porn is a decent job. But, just like any other job, not everyone's fit for it and just like any other job, you shouldn't rush into any company that offers you a scene or a contract.

 

[ILuvSamiScott]

I won't pass judgment on porn as a whole. But I would like to see the actors/actresses given more freedom, eg., more say as to whom they fuck on camera. I know there's such a thing as a "no" list, whereby an actor can say "I simply won't work with him/her". But there have been somewhere above 10,000 actors in porn. How can one do anywhere nearly enough research to put on the "no" list whoever should be there? The system I have in mind is mathematically imperfect, but an improvement: give the actress her choice out of three actors (the three actors not knowing they are in competition, so there can be no hurt feelings at the result). If she chooses "A" over "B" and "C", you want it to work both ways, but here's the imperfect part: Say actor A gets his choice out of actress D (who already chose him), E and F, and he chooses E or F. Then you have mutual rejection, so then what? Maybe he gets only a "yea" or "neigh" choice THIS TIME, but a choice from among A, B and C next time. I've seen some beautiful actresses fuck men with ugly faces (who presumably make up for it with good cocks?), but you never know what the woman thinks when her choices were really "Fuck this individual, or go home and don't get paid." Scripts can also degrade actresses. Does an actress really want to play a married woman whose husband hasn't fucked her in months, so she fucks her stepson? Or play a married woman who's been cuckolded? In one scene, a beautiful actress plays a woman wanting to buy a pool table (at $1000) AND fuck the guy who's selling it, but he resists . . . so she offers to pay $2000 "for the pool table" (when you can tell she's really paying an extra $1000 for SEX. Wouldn't a beautiful woman be embarrassed to pay for sex?????)

 

[Little Red Wagon Repairman]

More pride in cleaning the inside of a septic tank with a toothbrush.

 

[BusterLoads]

Mia Khalifa has zero credibility and her opinion is worthless.

 

[Spirited]

Scripts can also degrade actresses. Does an actress really want to play a married woman whose husband hasn't fucked her in months, so she fucks her stepson?

Yeah, I've seen quite a few actresses say that they're really not into that whole step trend (which btw is pretty creepy and often prevents me from watching what could've been a good scene).

Mia Khalifa has zero credibility and her opinion is worthless.

Mia Khalifa is the most overrated pornstar of all time, imo.

 

[BusterLoads]

Mia Khalifa is the most overrated pornstar of all time, imo.

Been saying that ever since she was doing porn. But now on top of being overrated, she's now a certified liar and piece of trash.

 

[Johan]

Mia Khalifa has zero credibility and her opinion is worthless.

Yep, but the medias often refer to that interview (or to Sasha Grey's interview on Tyra Banks' show) to throw porn under the bus

Yeah, I've seen quite a few actresses say that they're really not into that whole step trend (which btw is pretty creepy and often prevents me from watching what could've been a good scene).

Yet, if there's so many stepson/step-daughter scene, it means people watch them.

 

[Pornfan99]

spirited said:


Yeah, I've seen quite a few actresses say that they're really not into that whole step trend (which btw is pretty creepy and often prevents me from watching what could've been a good scene).

Yet, if there's so many stepson/step-daughter scene, it means people watch them.

Johan: eh; I'm not so sure. Porn is always "looking for new, best thing." This is just the .. theme of the moment. In most cases, whatever "plot" there is to a scene is noise. I'm interested in the starlet, the positions, and the angle of the camera.

 

[Johan]

Yet, if there's so many stepson/step-daughter scene, it means people watch them.

Johan: eh; I'm not so sure. Porn is always "looking for new, best thing." This is just the .. theme of the moment. In most cases, whatever "plot" there is to a scene is noise. I'm interested in the starlet, the positions, and the angle of the camera.

Porn is a business and the very base of any business is selling people what they want to buy. it may be the theme of the moment but it wouldn't be if it wasn't what people wants ot see now. I've been on pornhub and searched for the most viewed videos ever, worldwide. Out of the 10 most viewed, 5 are step-themed.

 

[Steve-FreeOnes]

Been saying that ever since she was doing porn. But now on top of being overrated, she's now a certified liar and piece of trash.

If you're going to make such claims, you should probably back them up with some actual evidence.

 

[John_8581]

The Queen of Porn, Jenna Jameson wrote her autobiography. The book, How to Make Love Like a Pornstar: A Cautionary Tale. How many weeks was it on the New York Times Best Seller list? She made millions from it. Then Jenna made more millions from selling the Jenna Club to Playboy Enterprises.

Then Jenna Jameson got pregnant with twins after marrying Tito Ortiz. Lastly, she announced her retirement from pornography at the 2008 AVN Awards, stating that she would never return to the industry. Her attitude and appearance changed. She had her breast implants removed. Reducing them from a D cup to a C cup. Harsh comments next came against her livelihood. Remember how she put down other people, places and things in the adult industry.

Yet, in 2013, she returned back to doing live cam shows. Unbelievable. She just can't get her hand out of the till.

 

[Johan]

If you're going to make such claims, you should probably back them up with some actual evidence.

She's been in porn for about 3 monthes and is famous for that crapy headscarf video. She pretend she wants to move on from porn but she keeps using her porn name on socia medias, including her official OnlyFan account.

I have no issues with former pornstars using the popularity they got from their porn career for their post-porn life. But do not trash porn and do not pretend you want to put that part of your life behind you and move on when you're still making money off of it.

 

[Steve-FreeOnes]

She's been in porn for about 3 monthes and is famous for that crapy headscarf video. She pretend she wants to move on from porn but she keeps using her porn name on socia medias, including her official OnlyFan account.

I have no issues with former pornstars using the popularity they got from their porn career for their post-porn life. But do not trash porn and do not pretend you want to put that part of your life behind you and move on when you're still making money off of it.

None of this has anything to do with her being an alleged "piece of trash" or "liar" but clearly you have an agenda here, so let's look at this.

Considering the level of abuse that she has received in the time since she did some porn, can you blame her for wanting to protect her family name? You frame it in a far more sinister way, saying that she's keeping her 'porn name'. But to my recollection, so have many performers who have walked away from porn, some of them who have gone down the religious anti-porn crusade route. Why not point them out while you're at it?

The videos that she made have made millions of dollars for those who made them and have published and republished them. She made almost nothing from them. Despite that she has not, as you suggest, "trashed porn". She trashed some aspects of it, such as those who have lined their pockets off her name and given her not a penny in return. There's a big difference.

I don't know what kind of content she has on her OnlyFans. Does she post porn on there? If so, then at least she has control of her own revenue stream. If she doesn't, then your suggestions that she's a hypocrite are way off the mark, and I'm glad that she's finally been financially rewarded and then some.

 

[John_8581]

I'd like to hear what long time porn actors and actresses have to say as good things about the industry. Like Sara Jay, Lisa Ann, Lisa Sparxxx, Nikki Benz, Janine Lindemulder, Jill Kelly, Amber Lynn, Jesse Jane, Rachel Aziani, Kelly Madison, Vicky Vette, Deauxma, Bryci, also Johnny Sins, Keiran Lee, James Deen, Julian Rios, Manuel Ferrara, Jules Jordan and Rocco Siffredi. People like that.

 

[Johan]

None of this has anything to do with her being an alleged "piece of trash" or "liar" but clearly you have an agenda here, so let's look at this.

Considering the level of abuse that she has received in the time since she did some porn, can you blame her for wanting to protect her family name? You frame it in a far more sinister way, saying that she's keeping her 'porn name'. But to my recollection, so have many performers who have walked away from porn, some of them who have gone down the religious anti-porn crusade route. Why not point them out while you're at it?

1) Aren't they other alternatives to either using her porn name or her familly name ?

2) My critique about people who go on anti-porn crusades after they left the industry is not only targetting Mia, every singkle adult performer who does that is targeted here.

3) You pretend you want to put your porn career behind you but you open a OnlyFan account with your porn name.

4) She says she only made $12.000 when she was in porn. First, $12,000 in 3 monthes when you're 21, that's $4000/monthes. Not many 21 years old folks make $4,000/monthes. Alos, she says forgets to mention that she wouldn't haave 23 million followers on instagram, she wouldn't live as an finfluencer, she wouldn't be doing any interviews in the medias if it wasn't for her porn careeer

5) She's been in porn for about 3 monthes, had a very unusual career, did very unusual thing and yet she speak about her experience as if the whole industry was like what she experienced. People like Angela White, Asa Akira, Lena Paul, Manuel Ferrara, Ivy Lebelle, Holly Randall, Bree Mills, Keiran Lee, Steve Holmes, Dani Daniels, Carter Cruise, Chanel Preston, Karmen Karman, Phoenix Marie and many more would tell you that this is not the case. Take Madison Ivy for example : She suffered a terrible car accident, had to endure a long, painful recovery. Yet she choosed to come back to porn "because it was so fun" she says : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zRRDcBcVNI&t=847s
This is like when some folks emphasise on that ONE person who experienced side effets from a vaccine, forget to mention that hundreds of thousand people did not and then claim the vaccine is dangerous.

 

[BusterLoads]

If you're going to make such claims, you should probably back them up with some actual evidence.

If you want to ignore her being called out for her lies by the actual people who employed her, you go right on ahead.

"The videos that she made have made millions of dollars for those who made them and have published and republished them. She made almost nothing from them. Despite that she has not, as you suggest, "trashed porn". She trashed some aspects of it, such as those who have lined their pockets off her name and given her not a penny in return. There's a big difference."

Right. Keep drinking that kool-aid. BTW, she didn't just try to trash "aspects of it."

"You can see in the google trends graph below, that Mia Khalifa is struggling to stay relevant over the years and needs to attacks Bangbros and the porn industry to stay relevant."

"Ya know, if we were cynical, we might think that the reason she wants this press (and her prior content removed) is because it will make her adulty photo business more valuable."

 

[Steve-FreeOnes]

@BusterLoads Ahh, the YouTuber Tipster and BangBros, the most highly reputable of sources right there. Come on, man.

 

[Johan]

@Steve-FreeOnes : If you're looking for a more objective opinion, something that is not a hit piece on her, the opinion of someone who's actually in the industry :

 

[BusterLoads]

Ahh, the YouTuber Tipster and BangBros, the most highly reputable of sources right there.

Yeah my mistake for taking the word of the company that actually employed her and provided evidence to dispute everything she said and a guy who only reported on what was said without even trying to spin the narrative.

 

[gmase]

How about this? It is a decent job for some performers and not for others. Like any industry or profession there are pros and cons.