Police arrest two teens in Giorgia for killing a Baby

georges

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For those who are against the death penalty please read those horryfying news
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..BRUNSWICK, Ga. (AP) — In five years, Sherry West has lost two sons to unspeakable violence.

The Georgia mother was grieving from Thursday's shooting death of her 13-month-old son in his stroller during an attempted robbery while they took a morning stroll. In 2008, her 18-year-old son was stabbed in an altercation in New Jersey.

A pair of teenagers was arrested Friday in the most recent shooting. West had just been to the post office a few blocks from her apartment Thursday morning and was pushing her son, Antonio, in his stroller while they walked past gnarled oak trees and blooming azaleas in the coastal city of Brunswick.

West said a tall, skinny teenager, accompanied by a smaller boy, asked her for money.

"He asked me for money and I said I didn't have it," she told The Associated Press Friday from her apartment, which was scattered with her son's toys and movies.

"When you have a baby, you spend all your money on babies. They're expensive. And he kept asking and I just said 'I don't have it.' And he said, 'Do you want me to kill your baby?' And I said, 'No, don't kill my baby!'"

One of the teens fired four shots, grazing West's ear and striking her in the leg, before he walked around to the stroller and shot the baby in the face.

Seventeen-year-old De'Marquis Elkins is charged as an adult with first-degree murder, along with a 14-year-old who was not identified because he is a juvenile, Police Chief Tobe Green said. It wasn't immediately clear whether the boys had attorneys.

Police announced the arrest Friday afternoon after combing school records and canvassing neighborhoods searching for the pair. The chief said the motive of the "horrendous act" was still under investigation and the weapon had not been found.

"I feel glad that justice will be served," West said. "It's not something I'm going to live with very well. I'm just glad they caught him."

West said detectives showed her mugshots of about 24 young men. She pointed to one, saying he looked like the gunman.

"After I picked him, they said they had him in custody," West said. "It looked just like him. So I think we got our man."

West said she thought the other suspect looked much younger: "That little boy did not look 14."

The slaying happened around the corner from West's apartment in the city's Old Town historic district. It's a street lined with grand Victorian homes from the late 1800s. Most have been neatly restored by their owners. Others, with faded and flaking paint, have been divided into rental units like the apartment West shared with her son. The slain boy's father, Luis Santiago, lives in a house across the street.

A neighbor dropped off a fruit basket and then a hot pot of coffee Friday as a friend from the post office dropped by to comfort West.

Santiago came and went. At one point he scooped up an armload of his son's stuffed animals, saying he wanted to take them home with him. He talked about Antonio's first birthday on Feb. 5 and how they had tried different party hats on the boy.

"He's all right," Santiago told the boy's mother, trying to smile. "He's potty training upstairs in heaven."

West said her son was walking well on his own and eight of his teeth had come in. But she also mourned the milestones that will never come, like Antonio's first day at school.

"I'm always going to wonder what his first word would be," West said.

Beverly Anderson, whose husband owns the property where West has lived for several years, said she was stunned by the violence in what's generally known as a safe neighborhood where children walk to school and families are frequently outdoors.

Jonathan Mayes and his wife were out walking their dogs Friday, right past the crime scene, and said they've never felt nervous about being out after dark.

"What is so mind-numbing about this is we don't have this kind of stuff happen here," Mayes said. "You expect that kind of crap in Atlanta."

It's not the mother's first loss of a child to violence. West said her 18-year-old son, Shaun Glassey, was killed in New Jersey in 2008. She still has a newspaper clipping from the time.

Glassey was killed with a steak knife in March 2008 during an attack involving several other teens on a dark street corner in Gloucester County, N.J., according to news reports from the time.

"He and some other boys were going to ambush a kid," Bernie Weisenfeld, a spokesman for the Gloucester County prosecutor's office, told the AP Friday.

Glassey was armed with a knife, but the 17-year-old target of the attack was able to get the knife away from him "and Glassey ended up on the wrong end of the knife," Weisenfeld recalled.

Prosecutors decided the 17-year-old would not be charged because they determined that he acted in self-defense.

Sabrina Elkins, the sister of the older suspect in the Georgia baby's slaying, said Friday evening that she believed her brother was innocent of the charges. She didn't know whether he had a lawyer.

"He couldn't have done that to a little baby," she told AP. "My brother has a good heart."

She said that her brother had been living in Atlanta, and only returned to Brunswick a few months ago. Typically, he would come by her house in the morning and they'd go to breakfast. But Friday morning, police came to her door as her brother was approaching along the sidewalk.

"The police came pointing a Taser at him, telling him to get on the ground," she recalled by phone. "He said, 'What are you getting me for? Can you tell me what I did?'"

Associated Press Writer Christina A. Cassidy in Atlanta and news researcher Monika Mathur in New York contributed to this report.

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Mr. Daystar

In a bell tower, watching you through cross hairs.
That's a very special kind of fucked up. People like this shouldn't be executed though. A nice tattoo on their fore head that reads, "BABY KILLER", and some rec time in general population, is the way to make this filth pay their penalty.
 

Jagger69

Three lullabies in an ancient tongue
This is horrific beyond question and the perpetrators should be dealt with appropriately if they are found to be culpable (since one of them is a juvenile he will have a whole other set of rules that determine what his punishment will be). However, unless you have never bothered to read anything that I have ever written on this subject, you would know that the fundamental reasons for which I am unequivocally opposed to capital punishment have nothing to do with the crime itself.

My sincerest sympathies go out to all who are affected by this horrible and senseless tragedy.
 

georges

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...you think a 14-year old should be put on death row?

And you think that they should be just jailed and benefit from the all comfort that regular prisoniers have? The guy acted in consequence and knew what he was doing so I don't think we should give a baby murderer an opportunity to be alive unless locked for a life with no remission of sentance possible. In my country (France), socialist fucktard Robert Badinter which was a Congressman has passed a law in 1981 alongwith his socialist scumbag friends that portrayed the death penalty as inhumane and out of place in a civilized country. Problem was that after it was abolished and that life sentence emprisonment was implemented , some of the worst murderers benefitted from a remission of sentance. Now criminality in my country is on the rise.
The death penalty is still carried in 32 out of 50 states in the US and that is a good thing. To give criminals a second chance no matter what their age is, is just wrong. It is just giving them more willingness to commit a crime again. Getting rid of criminals is a necessity, we don't need them.
 

JaanaRuutu

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And you think that they should be just jailed and benefit from the all comfort that regular prisoniers have? The guy acted in consequence and knew what he was doing so I don't think we should give a baby murderer an opportunity to be alive unless locked for a life with no remission of sentance possible. In my country (France), socialist fucktard Robert Badinter which was a Congressman has passed a law in 1981 alongwith his socialist scumbag friends that portrayed the death penalty as inhumane and out of place in a civilized country. Problem was that after it was abolished and that life sentence emprisonment was implemented , some of the worst murderers benefitted from a remission of sentance. Now criminality in my country is on the rise.
The death penalty is still carried in 32 out of 50 states in the US and that is a good thing. To give criminals a second chance no matter what their age is, is just wrong. It is just giving them more willingness to commit a crime again. Getting rid of criminals is a necessity, we don't need them.
"comfort" is not the term that comes to mind when i think of the American prison system, especially privately-run centers. Look it up.

He's 14 living in a very poor state. It's completely possible he was enlisted to a gang at a young age and just became a wasted life. I think he should go away for a very long time, but he should also get DAILY THERAPY because it's clear he needs it. the 17-year old should be locked away for life.
 

Mr. Daystar

In a bell tower, watching you through cross hairs.
"comfort" is not the term that comes to mind when i think of the American prison system, especially privately-run centers. Look it up.

He's 14 living in a very poor state. It's completely possible he was enlisted to a gang at a young age and just became a wasted life. I think he should go away for a very long time, but he should also get DAILY THERAPY because it's clear he needs it. the 17-year old should be locked away for life.

Daily therapy costs money. Who should pay for that? The victims family may be tax payers in the area this piece of filth will be getting help, while their child was murdered?!?! What difference does it make if he was poor, or in a gang. Millions of kids are from poor areas and don't get involved in gangs, or commit murder. I will concede that some, if not all private prison systems have a well documented history for brutality...so what, it's fucking prison! If you choose....CHOOSE to take away, disregard, or otherwise violate the civil rights, and or liberties of another person...and it is a choice, you deserve to loose yours. Beyond the Constitutional rights afforded you before you are convicted, you should fully expect to receive NO RIGHTS, once you are in prison. Now, having said that, I want to make it clear that, if you are a non violent offender, you shouldn't be in the same lock up as rapists and murderers, but if you fuck up, you should pay. If this country would quit justifying the same tired old bullshit, like...."well, he's a first time offender, and he comes from a poor family, lets go easy on him", and quit plea barging down charges, and let these mother fuckers twist in the wind, maybe they wouldn't do it again, when they get out. This slap on the wrist, lets all hug bullshit has got to stop, and accountability needs to brought back. Maybe if they would crack down, and quit being pussies, these fucktard politicians wouldn't think it's acceptable to violate law abiding tax payers rights, to solve problems that are obviously due to mollycoddling.
 
Teenagers are old enough to know that killing is wrong! They should absolutely be punished just the same as any adult.

...that poor mother
 

Philbert

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I have no evidence, but my feeling after listening to the mother, and some news reports, is to reserve judgment until the police have time to dig a bit.
I feel that the mother may not be telling the truth, and the boys may not be the shooters.
As of the last time I heard anything they had not confessed, and the mother had been inquiring about the baby being insured.
A baby insured? Bells go off, alarm bells.
I knew Susan Smith was lying the first time I heard her speaking...sadly, I was right.
 
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