This is such a ridiculously long post. Sorry about that… :oIt is about why I hate gonzo... I could have go on forever. Of course, all this is IMHO and out of frustration.
I am one of the last specimen of an endangered species : the guy that likes stories in porn, and consequently hates gonzo. I hate gonzo so much that it made me stop watching porn till I decided to look at my favorite pornstars of the 90s. That’s all I am looking at.
I hate gonzo for many reasons that turn around this: it killed what I liked in porn, the pornstars. I like these girls, I really do. They are wild, have personnality, character, guts, and are doing what most would not do. You can’t say that of gonzo, one very important thing is missing: personnality, character. That’s the difference between a real pornstar and a girl that does porn.
I like stories or set-ups because (even when they are bad) that’s when a girl can show us who she is, how sexy and exciting she can be when she is dressed and doing something not related to sex (working at the office, etc…). I like to see her in different style of clothes and set-ups, and to see her dressed before undressing or getting undressed, even if I saw her many times.
--- I have never seen anything more sexy than a completly dressed and 30-year old Nici Sterling in a leather outfit doing some trash talking with her British accent.--- :love-smi:
I like stories because they are set in different places, that means we see different forms of sex and ways to shoot it. You know : trains, planes and automobiles and boats, restaurants, barns, cinemas and European or North-American streets, fields, etc… And they are dressed different and look different but always like pornstars with the right hair style, attitude, etc… Shoots done on morning, daylight, evening, nights, inside in all kind of locations, with nice lighting and atmosphere, with different camera angles, etc…
Gonzo : all the girls are dressed the same way (undressed or wearing some fishnet that I hope they washed before giving it to the next one, or some thong or bikini). They all answer the same stupid questions with the same answers I couldn’t care less about. (Isabella Camille is the only one that said something interesting, the guy was so surprised that he stopped the interview and went straight on the sex scene). Everything is the same and will be the same. You don’t change a winning formula, don’t be different. They all do their back and forth catwalks in front of the camera spreading bums and showing pussy as if it was the Holy Grail (don’t we just learned that it is under the pyramid at the Louvres ?).
It is like going through endless pages of niche sites showing you the same thing the same way again and again
The effect of that repetition : sex scenes that are almost non sexual or at least non humanly sexual that creates a complete lack of empathy for the people involved in it. And porn keeps on going far, (too far for some) and will keep on going farther and very rapidly... because we don't give a shit. In the thread What turns you off, about everything was refering to gonzo habits.
You could shoot 10 % of a gonzo scene with a dildo and a Fleshlight !!!!
At Vivid you can buy a mould of Midori’s butt, of some guy’s cock, some pussies… now you’re up to 25 % of your shoot without one single human being in it.
---- BTW, what part of the body do we see the most in gonzo ?----
And all are shot the same way, doing the same sex, something that a few years ago would have been called fetishism or BDSM. (I don’t care about that but give me something else!)
Fetischism ? You don't believe me ? How many movies are titled : Ass (something), or Anal (Something) or Something Ass or Anal ? Is there gonzo without Anal destruction ?
Most scenes take place on the same f*** couch, in the same living room, shot the same way, edited the same way and lit with the same washed white lighting that you find in medical clinics and assembly lines. So you end up having a mass produced GUIDE TO BORING SEXUALITY with girls that are highly forgettable, replaceable and disposable.
It is Henry Ford assembly line applied to porn production.
All that because porn is paying the price of its huge growth. Specially with internet sites, they need so many scenes and girls, that they have to mass produce them and find a way and style to do it. They can’t afford pornstars and originality. It has to be fast but they have to make us believe that this uniformity is a sign of quality. No tolerance for bad porn…. BS, they have never done anything else than bad porn.
Gonzo assembly line no 1.
Canera 1 is behind a guy, at the height of his balls and cock. He is in front a conveyor. He just punched its card and took its place. A whistle blows (at least something is blowing…) and the conveyor starts. A girl is on the conveyor, on her four, and that stops when the girl is in front of the guy who starts fucking her mouth and makes her gag.
After a predetermined lapse of time, the conveyor starts again and Girl 1 goes away and is replaced by Girl 2, in the same position, for the same shot (the camera stops when the conveyor moves and starts when it stops; no cameraman is needed). Meanwhile, Girl 1, still on her 4, stops further on the line in front of camera 2 : some dildo in extreme close-up fucking her pussy.
Another whistle and comes in Girl 3. Girl 2 goes away to the dildo and Girl 1 is taking it up the ass by the guy of camera 3. This is the highest paid worker of the assembly line. But you get there only after 5 years and you have to work on Xmas and during the week-ends.
AND NOW THE MOST STUPID OF ALL STUPIDITIES
Then the conveyor turns so a camera can shoot the girl from the side. Now we see all of her because we could have forgotten how she looks like. There is a guy behind her that fingers her ass and spits in it. This conveyor position is only for the last spits and fingerings (still, it goes on for 2 minutes…). A mechanism links the arm of the guy to a camera, so when he starts moving it the camera moves closer.
.
The guy takes his fingers out of the girl's ass and then very slowly (so the camera can follow) and very carefully, as if that bombshell is so hot and ready to explode that nitroglycerine oozes out of her ass, he brings these fingers to the face of the girl. So, ladies and gentlemen, you know for sure: this is no trucage. She is truly going to taste her shit on his fingers.:thefinger What a filthy bitch ! The girl tries to look as if she has been waiting for this treat all her life, then she rapidly takes the fingers in her mouth and sucks them (it is the only time she can suck, the rest of the time she is gagging) and then she gives to the camera a look that means something like : Taste just like the brownies I used to eat in Springfield.
And it goes on and on till the Great Excavator finds its shrine : the Mighty Gaping A. Scenes of 25, 30 minutes of that crap with girls that take stuffs in their holes without any action or reaction, words, any spontaneity or desires, NOTHING. Just a bunch of UFOs (Unidentified Fucked Objects) ready to be forgotten and replaced by the next one on the conveyor. Stop asking yourself why do these girls change names and all use the same first names ? That’s the whole idea. THOU SHALL NOT REMEMBER THEM!.
That’s sex according to gonzo, cinema (porn is cinema to me) according to niche sites and gonzo.
They killed pornstars.
They killed imagination.
They killed spontaneity.
They killed cinema quality.
They killed fun and humour. (I used to laugh a lot in the 90s, I don’t remember one single smile watching gonzo).
They killed sensuality, if not sexuality (I mean between a real man and a real woman) Most of the time they don’t really touch each other, just the cock that gets in one of the holes, the guy standing close enough to push it all the way and far enough to make room for the camera so the in and out movement is well illustrated. Touching or caressing, (call it the way you like) has disappeared from human sex intercourses. And of course, talking to each other is very rare and usually has a directional purpose : Spread your bums, Taste your ass… And the girl rarely says a word after the intro interview.
They even killed the humans. Have you noticed that people have no shadow in gonzo?
The day you won’t have a shadow, that day my friend you’ll be dead… or it would be raining. Not much fun anyway. And just think, you could be dead and it is a rainy day.:eek:
I am one of the last specimen of an endangered species : the guy that likes stories in porn, and consequently hates gonzo. I hate gonzo so much that it made me stop watching porn till I decided to look at my favorite pornstars of the 90s. That’s all I am looking at.
I hate gonzo for many reasons that turn around this: it killed what I liked in porn, the pornstars. I like these girls, I really do. They are wild, have personnality, character, guts, and are doing what most would not do. You can’t say that of gonzo, one very important thing is missing: personnality, character. That’s the difference between a real pornstar and a girl that does porn.
I like stories or set-ups because (even when they are bad) that’s when a girl can show us who she is, how sexy and exciting she can be when she is dressed and doing something not related to sex (working at the office, etc…). I like to see her in different style of clothes and set-ups, and to see her dressed before undressing or getting undressed, even if I saw her many times.
--- I have never seen anything more sexy than a completly dressed and 30-year old Nici Sterling in a leather outfit doing some trash talking with her British accent.--- :love-smi:
I like stories because they are set in different places, that means we see different forms of sex and ways to shoot it. You know : trains, planes and automobiles and boats, restaurants, barns, cinemas and European or North-American streets, fields, etc… And they are dressed different and look different but always like pornstars with the right hair style, attitude, etc… Shoots done on morning, daylight, evening, nights, inside in all kind of locations, with nice lighting and atmosphere, with different camera angles, etc…
Gonzo : all the girls are dressed the same way (undressed or wearing some fishnet that I hope they washed before giving it to the next one, or some thong or bikini). They all answer the same stupid questions with the same answers I couldn’t care less about. (Isabella Camille is the only one that said something interesting, the guy was so surprised that he stopped the interview and went straight on the sex scene). Everything is the same and will be the same. You don’t change a winning formula, don’t be different. They all do their back and forth catwalks in front of the camera spreading bums and showing pussy as if it was the Holy Grail (don’t we just learned that it is under the pyramid at the Louvres ?).
It is like going through endless pages of niche sites showing you the same thing the same way again and again
The effect of that repetition : sex scenes that are almost non sexual or at least non humanly sexual that creates a complete lack of empathy for the people involved in it. And porn keeps on going far, (too far for some) and will keep on going farther and very rapidly... because we don't give a shit. In the thread What turns you off, about everything was refering to gonzo habits.
You could shoot 10 % of a gonzo scene with a dildo and a Fleshlight !!!!
At Vivid you can buy a mould of Midori’s butt, of some guy’s cock, some pussies… now you’re up to 25 % of your shoot without one single human being in it.
---- BTW, what part of the body do we see the most in gonzo ?----
And all are shot the same way, doing the same sex, something that a few years ago would have been called fetishism or BDSM. (I don’t care about that but give me something else!)
Fetischism ? You don't believe me ? How many movies are titled : Ass (something), or Anal (Something) or Something Ass or Anal ? Is there gonzo without Anal destruction ?
Most scenes take place on the same f*** couch, in the same living room, shot the same way, edited the same way and lit with the same washed white lighting that you find in medical clinics and assembly lines. So you end up having a mass produced GUIDE TO BORING SEXUALITY with girls that are highly forgettable, replaceable and disposable.
It is Henry Ford assembly line applied to porn production.
All that because porn is paying the price of its huge growth. Specially with internet sites, they need so many scenes and girls, that they have to mass produce them and find a way and style to do it. They can’t afford pornstars and originality. It has to be fast but they have to make us believe that this uniformity is a sign of quality. No tolerance for bad porn…. BS, they have never done anything else than bad porn.
Gonzo assembly line no 1.
Canera 1 is behind a guy, at the height of his balls and cock. He is in front a conveyor. He just punched its card and took its place. A whistle blows (at least something is blowing…) and the conveyor starts. A girl is on the conveyor, on her four, and that stops when the girl is in front of the guy who starts fucking her mouth and makes her gag.
After a predetermined lapse of time, the conveyor starts again and Girl 1 goes away and is replaced by Girl 2, in the same position, for the same shot (the camera stops when the conveyor moves and starts when it stops; no cameraman is needed). Meanwhile, Girl 1, still on her 4, stops further on the line in front of camera 2 : some dildo in extreme close-up fucking her pussy.
Another whistle and comes in Girl 3. Girl 2 goes away to the dildo and Girl 1 is taking it up the ass by the guy of camera 3. This is the highest paid worker of the assembly line. But you get there only after 5 years and you have to work on Xmas and during the week-ends.
AND NOW THE MOST STUPID OF ALL STUPIDITIES
Then the conveyor turns so a camera can shoot the girl from the side. Now we see all of her because we could have forgotten how she looks like. There is a guy behind her that fingers her ass and spits in it. This conveyor position is only for the last spits and fingerings (still, it goes on for 2 minutes…). A mechanism links the arm of the guy to a camera, so when he starts moving it the camera moves closer.
.
The guy takes his fingers out of the girl's ass and then very slowly (so the camera can follow) and very carefully, as if that bombshell is so hot and ready to explode that nitroglycerine oozes out of her ass, he brings these fingers to the face of the girl. So, ladies and gentlemen, you know for sure: this is no trucage. She is truly going to taste her shit on his fingers.:thefinger What a filthy bitch ! The girl tries to look as if she has been waiting for this treat all her life, then she rapidly takes the fingers in her mouth and sucks them (it is the only time she can suck, the rest of the time she is gagging) and then she gives to the camera a look that means something like : Taste just like the brownies I used to eat in Springfield.
And it goes on and on till the Great Excavator finds its shrine : the Mighty Gaping A. Scenes of 25, 30 minutes of that crap with girls that take stuffs in their holes without any action or reaction, words, any spontaneity or desires, NOTHING. Just a bunch of UFOs (Unidentified Fucked Objects) ready to be forgotten and replaced by the next one on the conveyor. Stop asking yourself why do these girls change names and all use the same first names ? That’s the whole idea. THOU SHALL NOT REMEMBER THEM!.
That’s sex according to gonzo, cinema (porn is cinema to me) according to niche sites and gonzo.
They killed pornstars.
They killed imagination.
They killed spontaneity.
They killed cinema quality.
They killed fun and humour. (I used to laugh a lot in the 90s, I don’t remember one single smile watching gonzo).
They killed sensuality, if not sexuality (I mean between a real man and a real woman) Most of the time they don’t really touch each other, just the cock that gets in one of the holes, the guy standing close enough to push it all the way and far enough to make room for the camera so the in and out movement is well illustrated. Touching or caressing, (call it the way you like) has disappeared from human sex intercourses. And of course, talking to each other is very rare and usually has a directional purpose : Spread your bums, Taste your ass… And the girl rarely says a word after the intro interview.
They even killed the humans. Have you noticed that people have no shadow in gonzo?
The day you won’t have a shadow, that day my friend you’ll be dead… or it would be raining. Not much fun anyway. And just think, you could be dead and it is a rainy day.:eek:
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