Obama: 'We Need Fathers To Step Up"
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No it's all fathers. Just because dad lives at home doesn't mean he's worth a shit. A lot of fathers just don't want to be bothered. Go ask your mother or I'm too busy right now seems to be the norm. At least one of my parents were at every single event that I had growing up. They made the time to support me and my sisters in everything we did. My dad volunteered at my school during lunch time after I had some problems with some of the older boys. He left work early one day to have words with an Asst. Principal who had suspended me for what he considered an unfair reason. Sure I missed a few fishing trips when he had to work OT but then we go out for a couple hours down at the river.
Any jackass can be a father, it takes a real man to be a dad.
"very well said"
A simple sperm donor may live inside or outside of his child's home.
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There's a whole series of problems with fathers.A British judge has just hit out at the "pass the partner" culture which exists.How a child can find out how men ought to behave when this is going on I don't know.A son needs a role model , in the absence of his father other influences come into play.
I come from an age where parents stuck together for the sake of the children;even an uncomfortable relationship (as long as it's non violent) is better than a split from the child's point of view.
As for being a dad it's exhausting and impoverishing in financial terms.It seems restrictive yet overall it is vastly rewarding and gives a lot more than it takes.
^^ very well said marquis , being 19 years old and not having my father in my life was disheartening at best. i always find ways in which i am different from other guys but luckily i had a strong mother to raise me the correct way. watching other people my age and older who have no clue how to be a good parent though is scary beyond understanding because they don't have any body to look to when times get tough and i can only imagine how the children will turn out in such a situation. there are some things no amount ofseminars, baby books, childrens training or any other method of trying to educate a parent formally can teach a parent to be. i think some of the most useful things i plan on using to raise my children came from being a child with a responsible parent.
I can understand your situation. Fortunately I and all of my siblings grew up with both parents and while I didn't appreciate the influence my father had on my life as a kid, I can more than see that influence on me as man. I know characteristics like self-sufficiency, ingenuity and mental fortitude among others are chracteristics I picked up directly and indirectly by doing things with him and watching how he dealt with things. I don't know how I would be different without that experience but I do know for certain that experience has helped make me who I am today and much of my accomplishment I can attribute to that influence.
I have to say the man has a way with words. I don't know what kind of president he is (I am not American) but still I am becoming a huge fan of his oratory and literary skills. :thumbsup:
He addressed it bluntly last year at Father's day at Ebeneezer Baptist in Atlanta.
Just because children are born out of wedlock doesn't mean there is no father in the home.
Nevertheless Obama has ackowledged that both Black men as well as women(I have never known a man to give birth) have a greater responsibilty for children they bear.
He should say we need both Mothers & fathers to step up & stop singling out either one as they are both equally responsible.
While that's true, it is the overwhelming case where fathers are absent from the lives of their children race notwithstanding.
Him being a man and a father it's more than likely he would address the subject from that perspective.
I could just see women's groups up in arms if he addressed the two circumstances as equals.
Yeah , It would be viewed as a chauvinistic President 'attacking' single mothers. I think on Mother's Day maybe Michelle could have addressed it from a woman's point of view.:dunno:
I have personally seen women continually/casually have children (sometimes)for different fathers & I wonder where is their accountability in this issue? This thing really seems to get a bit lopsided against men(Black men especially) in many cases. I am most definitely not exonerating men(NEVER) ,but we do not reproduce asexually.
Do you disagree that this issue should be addressed equally with both sexes?
It's acroos the board & last I saw nearly 30% of White children are now born out of wedlock & slowly growing.
Well those are two different circumstances...one being irresponsible sex of which men and women are equally guilty as those are one for one circumstances. In other words, every time there is irresponsible heterosexual sex one man and one woman can be accounted for doing it. Then there's the subject of parents who abandon their children of which men overwhelmingly are responsible for doing.
Point well taken. I guess I am speaking of two different issues & trying to somehow meld them together. Circumstances of the conception(no matter if both parents are very irresponsible or not) is a moot point when the kid is born.
I understand the casuallness/lack of committment in the the relationship are irrelevant once the child is born.
But as a man I believe most (if not their physically) financially support their children & I guess I get a little defensive about this same old 'bashing' of men. This tack that the President is using(calling out men & Black men in particular) has been going on for years & it's obviously ineffective as I have been hearing this same 'Lecture to men' since the 1980's. It's must not be working as planned if we are having the same conversation & a new appproach may be in order? Has this tactic decreased the number of kids born out of wedlock/deadbeat dads?
well without that "piece of shit" wouldnt you still just be an egg?
just something to think about humpty :nanner:
