NRA To File Lawsuit Against Obama Admin' Over Bulk *** Sales Rule

[Bloodshot Scott]

By Jeremy Pelofsky

WASHINGTON -- The *** industry plans to file lawsuits on Wednesday challenging requirements that weapons dealers along the U.S. border with Mexico report multiple sales of semi-automatic rifles, escalating the fight with the Obama administration.

The Bureau of *******, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives last month ordered more than 8,000 *** dealers in Arizona, Texas, New Mexico and California to report such sales to try to stem the "iron river" of guns flowing to the violent Mexican **** cartels.

Dealers are required to report sales of two or more rifles to the same person at one time or during any five business days for semi-automatic weapons greater than .22 caliber and with the ability to accept a detachable magazine.

Two Arizona *** dealers backed by the National Rifle Association, one of the most powerful lobbying groups in Washington, will file a lawsuit in Washington as will the National Shooting Sports Foundation which represents the firearms industry, the groups said.

They will argue that ATF was not authorized by the Congress to require reporting such information about semi-automatic rifles purchases, rather it was only allowed to require reporting about handgun and ******** sales, according to copies of the lawsuits.

"At the time Congress authorized the reporting of multiple sales of handguns, it could have required it for the sale of long guns, but it did not," said Lawrence Keane, general counsel for the National Shooting Sports Foundation.

The *** dealers and groups will ask the courts to block the ATF from imposing the requirements which begin by August 14, they said. Failure to comply can result in losing their licenses to sell firearms.

About 8,500 *** dealers would be subject to the reporting requirement. Some 36,000 reports of multiple handgun sales were made from the four border states in fiscal 2010, according to ATF.

Attorney General Eric Holder told reporters that the regulations were legal and necessary to halt guns going to the **** cartels.

"We will vigorously oppose that lawsuit," Holder said. "We think that the acts that we have taken (are) consistent with the law and that the measures that we are proposing are appropriate ones to stop the flow of guns from the United States into Mexico."

The reporting requirement is one prong of the Obama administration's effort to stop *** trafficking from the border states to Mexico ******** has ****** tens of thousands since 2006.

One ATF operation to track guns going to Mexico from Arizona has become a full-blown scandal for the Obama administration because agents said they were not allowed to follow guns beyond the initial purchaser. As a result dozens of the weapons have shown up at crime scenes in Mexico.

(Editing by Jackie Frank)

Copyright 2011 Thomson Reuters

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/...ml?icid=maing-grid7|main5|dl2|sec3_lnk2|83304

 

[Hot Mega]

By Jeremy Pelofsky

WASHINGTON -- The *** industry plans to file lawsuits on Wednesday challenging requirements that weapons dealers along the U.S. border with Mexico report multiple sales of semi-automatic rifles, escalating the fight with the Obama administration.

The Bureau of *******, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives last month ordered more than 8,000 *** dealers in Arizona, Texas, New Mexico and California to report such sales to try to stem the "iron river" of guns flowing to the violent Mexican **** cartels.

Dealers are required to report sales of two or more rifles to the same person at one time or during any five business days for semi-automatic weapons greater than .22 caliber and with the ability to accept a detachable magazine.

Two Arizona *** dealers backed by the National Rifle Association, one of the most powerful lobbying groups in Washington, will file a lawsuit in Washington as will the National Shooting Sports Foundation which represents the firearms industry, the groups said.

They will argue that ATF was not authorized by the Congress to require reporting such information about semi-automatic rifles purchases, rather it was only allowed to require reporting about handgun and ******** sales, according to copies of the lawsuits.

"At the time Congress authorized the reporting of multiple sales of handguns, it could have required it for the sale of long guns, but it did not," said Lawrence Keane, general counsel for the National Shooting Sports Foundation.

The *** dealers and groups will ask the courts to block the ATF from imposing the requirements which begin by August 14, they said. Failure to comply can result in losing their licenses to sell firearms.

About 8,500 *** dealers would be subject to the reporting requirement. Some 36,000 reports of multiple handgun sales were made from the four border states in fiscal 2010, according to ATF.

Attorney General Eric Holder told reporters that the regulations were legal and necessary to halt guns going to the **** cartels.

"We will vigorously oppose that lawsuit," Holder said. "We think that the acts that we have taken (are) consistent with the law and that the measures that we are proposing are appropriate ones to stop the flow of guns from the United States into Mexico."

The reporting requirement is one prong of the Obama administration's effort to stop *** trafficking from the border states to Mexico ******** has ****** tens of thousands since 2006.

One ATF operation to track guns going to Mexico from Arizona has become a full-blown scandal for the Obama administration because agents said they were not allowed to follow guns beyond the initial purchaser. As a result dozens of the weapons have shown up at crime scenes in Mexico.

(Editing by Jackie Frank)

Copyright 2011 Thomson Reuters

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/...ml?icid=maing-grid7|main5|dl2|sec3_lnk2|83304

They will argue that ATF was not authorized by the Congress to require reporting such information about semi-automatic rifles purchases, rather it was only allowed to require reporting about handgun and ******** sales, according to copies of the lawsuits.

"At the time Congress authorized the reporting of multiple sales of handguns, it could have required it for the sale of long guns, but it did not," said Lawrence Keane, general counsel for the National Shooting Sports Foundation.

I'm not sure what the point of the lawsuit is other than to spend money on a ad campaign for firearms, the NRA and give GOPer politicians something to run on/against come election time.

If they're not contesting the law ****** down by congress on handguns..what's the point of the exercise trying to overturn the requirement on rifles? As congress could simply cover that base if they wanted to. (Meaning, if the NRA cared they would go after what congress ****** otherwise it's just an exercise.)

Just a show and politics in the long run... I envision the plan is to create a political circumstance pitting the GOPer congress against the admin for election year politics.

People won't care what the details are...it will just be GOPers running against Obama on a '***' issue....

 

[Ace Boobtoucher]

Mexico is a virtual arms bazaar, with fragmentation grenades from South Korea, AK-47s from China, and shoulder-fired rocket launchers from Spain, Israel and former Soviet bloc manufacturers.

Interpol says Russian Mafia groups such as Poldolskaya and Moscow-based Solntsevskaya are actively trafficking ***** and arms in Mexico.

During the late 1990s, the Revolutionary Armed ****** of Colombia (FARC) established a clandestine arms smuggling and **** trafficking partnership with the Tijuana cartel, according to the Federal Research Division report from the Library of Congress.

According to a 2006 Amnesty International Report, China has provided arms to countries in Asia, Africa and Latin America. Chinese assault weapons and Korean explosives have been recovered in Mexico.

More than 150,000 soldiers deserted in the last six years, according to Mexican Congressman Robert Badillo. Many took their weapons with them, including the standard issue M-16 assault rifle made in Belgium.

U.S. intelligence agencies say traffickers move immigrants, stolen cars, guns and *****, including most of America's *******, along the porous Mexican-Guatemalan border. On March 27, La Hora, a Guatemalan newspaper, reported that police seized 500 grenades and a load of AK-47s on the border. Police say the cache was transported by a Mexican **** cartel operating out of Ixcan, a border town.

Ed Head, a firearms instructor in Arizona who spent 24 years with the U.S. Border Patrol, recently displayed an array of weapons considered "assault rifles" that are similar to those recovered in Mexico, but are unavailable for sale in the U.S.

"These kinds of guns -- the auto versions of these guns -- they are not coming from El Paso," he said. "They are coming from other sources. They are brought in from Guatemala. They are brought in from places like China. They are being diverted from the military. But you don't get these guns from the U.S."

Some guns, he said, "are legitimately shipped to the government of Mexico, by Colt, for example, in the United States. They are approved by the U.S. government for use by the Mexican military service. The guns end up in Mexico that way -- the fully auto versions -- they are not smuggled in across the river."

Alberto Islas, a security consultant who advises the Mexican government, says the **** cartels are using the Guatemalan border to move black market weapons. Some are left over from the Central American wars the United States helped fight; others, like the grenades and launchers, are South Korean, Israeli and Spanish. Some were legally supplied to the Mexican government; others were sold by corrupt military officers or officials.

The myth that the U.S. is responsible for the majority of weapons used by Mexican criminals is just an excuse for limousine liberals to whittle away at the second amendment.

 

[Hot Mega]

Mexico is a virtual arms bazaar, with fragmentation grenades from South Korea, AK-47s from China, and shoulder-fired rocket launchers from Spain, Israel and former Soviet bloc manufacturers.

Interpol says Russian Mafia groups such as Poldolskaya and Moscow-based Solntsevskaya are actively trafficking ***** and arms in Mexico.

During the late 1990s, the Revolutionary Armed ****** of Colombia (FARC) established a clandestine arms smuggling and **** trafficking partnership with the Tijuana cartel, according to the Federal Research Division report from the Library of Congress.

According to a 2006 Amnesty International Report, China has provided arms to countries in Asia, Africa and Latin America. Chinese assault weapons and Korean explosives have been recovered in Mexico.

More than 150,000 soldiers deserted in the last six years, according to Mexican Congressman Robert Badillo. Many took their weapons with them, including the standard issue M-16 assault rifle made in Belgium.

U.S. intelligence agencies say traffickers move immigrants, stolen cars, guns and *****, including most of America's *******, along the porous Mexican-Guatemalan border. On March 27, La Hora, a Guatemalan newspaper, reported that police seized 500 grenades and a load of AK-47s on the border. Police say the cache was transported by a Mexican **** cartel operating out of Ixcan, a border town.

Ed Head, a firearms instructor in Arizona who spent 24 years with the U.S. Border Patrol, recently displayed an array of weapons considered "assault rifles" that are similar to those recovered in Mexico, but are unavailable for sale in the U.S.

"These kinds of guns -- the auto versions of these guns -- they are not coming from El Paso," he said. "They are coming from other sources. They are brought in from Guatemala. They are brought in from places like China. They are being diverted from the military. But you don't get these guns from the U.S."

Some guns, he said, "are legitimately shipped to the government of Mexico, by Colt, for example, in the United States. They are approved by the U.S. government for use by the Mexican military service. The guns end up in Mexico that way -- the fully auto versions -- they are not smuggled in across the river."

Alberto Islas, a security consultant who advises the Mexican government, says the **** cartels are using the Guatemalan border to move black market weapons. Some are left over from the Central American wars the United States helped fight; others, like the grenades and launchers, are South Korean, Israeli and Spanish. Some were legally supplied to the Mexican government; others were sold by corrupt military officers or officials.

The myth that the U.S. is responsible for the majority of weapons used by Mexican criminals is just an excuse for limousine liberals to whittle away at the second amendment.

So 'stryro....from this are they suggesting we should do what we can to make the problem better or worse??:o

 

[Ace Boobtoucher]

So 'stryro....from this are they suggesting we should do what we can to make the problem better or worse??:o

Neither. They are fabricating a sense of urgency.

 

[Hot Mega]

Neither. They are fabricating a sense of urgency.

:1orglaugh....

Okay...so, the g'ment (or media?) is fabricating some 'sense of urgency'...for what purpose? What's the endgame of this charade?

 

[Bloodshot Scott]

In other words the American government wants Americans to give a **** about hellhole Mexico. I could give a **** if it fell off into the Pacific Ocean.

I suspect, however, that EVERYONE and EVERYTHING these dealers come into contact with have long been somehow, someway tracked by Uncle Sam.