No ceasefire until Sickos are terminated.

[jen5500]

Until they aren't destroyed, I feel there is no reason for Israel to stop attacking them. Well Hezbollah I mean.

I want the Americans to continue supplying Israel with weapons until they are destroyed. I am fed up with them.

I'm sorry but however way you look at it, people say oh civilians will suffer and that. Well yeah that happens in any war but the difference is Israel are targeting Hezbollah millitants NOT civilians and whereas Hezbollah are targeting ordinary Israel civilians. They could care less whether they die whereas Isreal has tried to aviod hitting ordinary lebanese civilians as much as possible.

Go America!

 

[Christmas_Ape]

I'm sorry

Quite true. You are sorry.

 

[Jagger69]

I can appreciate your sentiment about Hezbollah but many, many innocent Lebanese men, women and children are being killed and/or made to suffer greatly at the expense of what Israel is purposely doing to the infrastructure of Lebanon. I can also appreciate Israel's "shoot first - ask questions later" mentality since they are surrounded by enemies, but this whole thing should have been handled differently from the outset. I mean, a couple of Israeli soldiers are held hostage so a full-scale war is the immediate response? Even if it hadn't have worked (and perhpas it wouldn't) diplomatic, economic and even covert options should have at least been explored.

I, too, have empathy for the plight of Israel but in some ways they have made their own situation even worse by this action. Israel has consistently kicked everybody's collective asses in the Middle east for decades but now Hezbollah seems to be giving them a run for their money. This is emboldening anit-Israel faction in other nations like Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Syria and Iran. The probability of further attacks against Israel has been augmented, not diminished.

We need a cease-fire.....now.

 

[georges]

Peace can't be done with terrorists, you must wipe out the whole hamas network and get rid of Amazedineeijhad and give a lesson to Syria for having a stable peace.It is Amazedineeijhad who supplies Hezbollah terrorists with weapons and it is Russians who sold and sell avionics and missiles to Iranians.The f14a tomcats in the Imperial Iranian Air Force that were said damaged are flying (55 out of 80 f14 delivred to the Iranians in 1979 are still flying and the Iranians still have their stock of aim 54 a phoenix missiles). Amazedineeijhad also planed to buy some su27flankers.It is better to wreck the shit out of Iran and Syria if people want to have a stable peace in the Middle East over the long run.

 

[Jagger69]

Peace can't be done with terrorists, you must wipe out the whole hamas network and get rid of Amazedineeijhad and give a lesson to Syria for having a stable peace.It is Amazedineeijhad who supplies Hezbollah terrorists with weapons and it is Russians who sold and sell avionics and missiles to Iranians.The f14a tomcats in the Imperial Iranian Air Force that were said damaged are flying (55 out of 80 f14 delivred to the Iranians in 1979 are still flying and the Iranians still have their stock of aim 54 a phoenix missiles). Amazedineeijhad also planed to buy some su27flankers.It is better to wreck the shit out of Iran and Syria if people want to have a stable peace in the Middle East over the long run.

You understand, of course, that this would be the instigation of World War III, right? Great option, Georges. Let's just blow the shit out of all those mother-fuckers. That'll show 'em. It sure is working in Iraq, that's for sure.

 

[pussypoppa]

Israel are targeting Hezbollah millitants NOT civilians

Then why are they bombing civilian infrastructure? Destroying hospitals and stuff? Why did they bomb and kill those UN dudes? Dont say they were accidents, because the equipment that Israel have are very precise, ad you cant accidentally bomb a hospital, you cant accidentallt bomb a white building with the lettere "UN" written clearly in black and white

 

[JiDoKwan]

They need to make those countries into parking lots over there, then we can just drill for oil on all that flat land.

 

[georges]

You understand, of course, that this would be the instigation of World War III, right? Great option, Georges. Let's just blow the shit out of all those mother-fuckers. That'll show 'em. It sure is working in Iraq, that's for sure.

Yes I do understand Jagger. But according to you to have Saddam as dictator was better? Or perhaps adopting the latitudinarian attitude that had Chirac and Schröder when it came to go in war against Irak was better? Perhaps according to you, we should let Iran have its nuclear bomb? Establish a democracy, costs a lot in terms of human lives, money and time. It is not by letting the threats grow that you will have an improvement of the situation and it is not on hopeless peace talks that will be clearly never respected by one party that you will have peace. Amzedineeijahd is a threat for the whole western world that must be eradicated and any nuclear plant in Iran must be destroyed as it was the case of the Osirak Nuclear Plant in Irak in 1982 destroyed by the IAF. I have no trust in Amazedineiejhad, Bachar El Hassad and Cheikh Nassralah. They have a common goal to destroy Israel.

 

[jen5500]

I can appreciate your sentiment about Hezbollah but many, many innocent Lebanese men, women and children are being killed and/or made to suffer greatly at the expense of what Israel is purposely doing to the infrastructure of Lebanon. I can also appreciate Israel's "shoot first - ask questions later" mentality since they are surrounded by enemies, but this whole thing should have been handled differently from the outset. I mean, a couple of Israeli soldiers are held hostage so a full-scale war is the immediate response? Even if it hadn't have worked (and perhpas it wouldn't) diplomatic, economic and even covert options should have at least been explored.

I, too, have empathy for the plight of Israel but in some ways they have made their own situation even worse by this action. Israel has consistently kicked everybody's collective asses in the Middle east for decades but now Hezbollah seems to be giving them a run for their money. This is emboldening anit-Israel faction in other nations like Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Syria and Iran. The probability of further attacks against Israel has been augmented, not diminished.

We need a cease-fire.....now.

You do realise you can not get peace with terrorists. They will never stop. Bring a ceasefire and I guarantee you they will find other ways to start a fire just like they always have. You can't show any mercy with these motherfuckers. Iran and Syria are just as bad and they talk about wiping Israel off the map......well they should first realise Israel and US could wipe their a$$es in days if they want.

I have no respect or any feelings for terrorist groups like Hezbollah

 

[jen5500]

Then why are they bombing civilian infrastructure? Destroying hospitals and stuff? Why did they bomb and kill those UN dudes? Dont say they were accidents, because the equipment that Israel have are very precise, ad you cant accidentally bomb a hospital, you cant accidentallt bomb a white building with the lettere "UN" written clearly in black and white

dude, they were accidents. Check the reports. Isreal aim to minimise the damage to civilians as much as possible and look at it the other way, what do Hezbollah care if Israel civilians die?

I do feel for civilians, I agree but not for terrorists.

 

[pussypoppa]

America is Israel's Bitch, sorry but its true

 

[jen5500]

This isn't a sport, a game, you're cheering on MURDER and familes being blown to bits.

The blood of these innocents is on YOUR HANDS, I promise you that. You and anyone else who supports murder, whether it be Hezbollah murder or murder by the Israeli army... think about it. All those innocent lives. You're cheering on their killers. I promise you that no matter what you may think, there is absolutely no difference between you (and Georges and others), and the Arabs who cheer on the Hezbollah attacks. You think it's okay because "they" are barbarians and "they" are the bad guys and your guys wear army uniforms instead of backpacks of explosives, well guess what, you're wrong! One Israeli life is worth one Arab life and that is that! Anyone who cheers on any of this killing is as much responsible as the men who pull the triggers and load up the backpacks, you know why? Because without the SUPPORT and the BLOODTHIRST, this would never have happened.

Thankfully, you're in the minority, and most people on both sides are yearning for a ceasefire.

That's my opinion, thanks for sharing yours. If you believe in god and judgement and all that - which I don't - then my advice would be to try and come up with a reason why you can justify supporting this kind of murder. If you can look inside your heart and really justify it, then I guess you'll get into heaven, right? But I thought god valued us all equally, and that we weren't supposed to kill each other. Oh well, I guess it's okay if they're only Lebanese people.

Fox

PS

JiDoKwan, I know you're kidding, right? I hope so, I'm sure you wouldn't like someone to make plans to level your hometown. Wouldn't stand for that on this board, would they? But as I said, if it's the Middle East, it's okay to talk about blowing all their shit up. They're not as important as us, right?

minority?

I don't think so.

I do worry about ordinary civilians but my concern is Hezbollah and/or other terrorist groups which must be destroyed. Isreal are doing what they can to inform civilians to move from certain areas but unfortunately its not always that straightforward.

Like I said, my concern is Hezbollah and Hezbollah has to be destroyed.

 

[jen5500]

It is better to wreck the shit out of Iran and Syria if people want to have a stable peace in the Middle East over the long run.

Exactly! Well said. Anyone who intices terrorism or poses a major threat to the rest of the international community is a major cause for concern.

 

[georges]

To you Fox,

Perhaps you should remember how many times the hezbollah murdered innocent Israeli civilians during all those years and that Israel has clearly more than enough of this terrorist organization as well as people who support it. Hezbollah members are always hiding among civilians so they can prove that Israelis killed civilians, the civilians will be then perceived as martyrs. But you haven't perceived that. You also have forgotten what has be to done to Ron Arad and other soldiers that were either captured or killed by the Hezbollah. Fox, you are one of the few who people that I have encountered that thinks that you can make peace with a terrorist organization like the hezbollah.
I don't think a majority of people would accept to make peace with an Islamist terrorist organization who throw katouchas and missiles on civilians every day. You must be one of the very few naive people who believe that. You must be totally out of the reality if you honestely think that believing in lies of the Hezbollah will bring you peace over the short medium run when it clearly won't and never will.
You are in the minority Fox, because any people who loves his/her country will never accept dangerous compromises based on false hopes and especially when one partner is a constant liar and a blattant confirmed terrorist (Hezbollah). With you Fox, I have often the feeling that is better to be a constant victim than to wreck the shit out of your agressor. Sorry but this is just my opinion.

respectfully

regards

georges

 

[pussypoppa]

If you are soo much against terrorism, and want it destroyed, take a look at the two biggest terrorist organizations the Israeli and American government, sure you can criticize/hate the Islamic fundamentalists, but you surely have no right to say/make out Israel and America are the "good" guys

 

[Calm]

If you are soo much against terrorism, and want it destroyed, take a look at the two biggest terrorist organizations the Israeli and American government, sure you can criticize/hate the Islamic fundamentalists, but you surely have no right to say/make out Israel and America are the "good" guys

I agree that Israel arent the good guys since neither side is wrong or right in this conflict but calling them terrorist couldnt be more far from the truth.
The main thing that differs between Israel and Hezbollah is that Israel is a country with innocent civillians who target terrorists, if some innocent lebanse get caught in the fire its unfortunate but inevitable, whereas Hezbollah is an organization who invaded a weak country against its will and is firing hundreds of missles at major Israeli cities day after day.
If you ever bring me proof that Israel is targeting civillians for the sake of killing them then I'd gladly march with you in an anti-Israel protest but until then please refrain from calling them terrorists.

PS, Jen, minority, yes, I'm not just talking about America, I know it's hard to imagine there are other countries in the world, but there are 200 of them plus, and believe me, Israeli military action is no more popular than Hezbollah bombings in most of those places... so yes, I would say that you are in the minority by cheering on either side. Most people just want a ceasefire, that's why your rep is so red right now, because your post is saying "NO CEASEFIRE TILL THEY ARE ALL DEAD" and it's against what even most Jews think, let alone what most people in general think. They want peace. Please, go to Israel or Lebanon and shout that, see how popular you are in saying that with all of the families and poor souls that live under constant threat of death.

You use the term "Jews" too lightly.
Israel is in its base a Jewish country but it has over a million non-Jewish citizens, that being 1/7 of its population. Not to mention that there are more Jews in the US than in Israel.
But that's not why I bring it up, I bring it up because many Jews, in Israel and around the world, object the idea of Israel and are actually cheering for its fall. You see, according to the Judail (spelling?) faith, Israel is the land promised to them by God but they should only inhabit it once the messiah comes. Most of those who believe this don't live in Israel but there are a few who do that think its wrong to establish a country before the Messiah has come so they're praying for Israel to fall more than most people in Lebanon.
Just a side note.

 

[Gordar]

I have a problem with the "you can't talk with terrorists" attitude. I think the IRA is proof enough that you CAN & SHOULD talk to terrorists, as trying to subdue/destroy them only creates more hatred.

 

[JiDoKwan]

I know let's send in Jack Bauer, he'll clean this mess up in 24hrs.

 

[Johan]

Didn't you notice that Israel is bombing lebanon with more and more intensity and Hezbollah is sending more and more rockets on Israel, 'cause they are supplied by Iran and Syria ?

Middle East terrorist are using guerrilla tactics and against these kind of tactics, Air Force, missiles and bombing is useless. It's lke trying to kill a fly with a gun.

Thousands of lebanese alrezdy died in this war, do you think they were all terrorsdiys. No, not half of them were.
Stranger war in wich collareral damages are higher than killed targets

 

[Baal]

I find this thread offensive...