NHL '14/'15 Thread

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Jagger69

Three lullabies in an ancient tongue
OK, so the Kings win the Cup. Hooray for them!! Now all of the losers can start thinking about next year. What do some of these teams that are oh-so-close need to do to take the next step to compete with a team Like LA? How about your team? Let the conjecture begin. Training camp opens in September!
 

feller469

Moving to a trailer in Fife, AL.
Bruins are talking about shipping Marchand to SJ for Patrick Marleau. Not sure how I feel about this. Marchand probably needs to go, but not sure Marleau is the the answer
 

Jagger69

Three lullabies in an ancient tongue
My Blues have two very obvious needs. The first is a top-tier goaltender who can play on a reasonably-close level with guys like Lundqvist, Quick and Rask. Ryan Miller obviously wasn't the answer (if only we had gone after Gaborik instead!). Maybe Jake Allen is. He was the AHL goaltender of the year in 2014 so he has the resume. He and Brian Elliott need to make for a dynamic tandem for us to be successful.

The second need is for more skilled and consistent goal scoring. It appears that Tarasenko and Schwartz are developing into serious snipers who can score when you need them to. However, just like Chicago went out and got Hossa a couple of years ago when they already had Toews and Kane, the Kings went and got Gaborik when they already had Carter and Kopitar this season....we need a veteran presence who can get that key goal when needed. Hitchcock's whole strategy is to play from the lead and shut down the other team with smothering defense. The Blues are very good at doing just that. The caveat is....when we don't get the lead, we are not very good at playing catch up. It killed us over and over again against Chicago in this year's playoff and we have to find a way to be able to do that when we have to to compete.

We'll see what Doug Armstrong does in the offseason. With other teams like Minnesota and Dallas on the rise in a conference where the level of competition is already as fierce as you can get, if we don't keep getting better, we're getting worse. Now....baseball season begins!
 
Copied and pasted from out '14 thread:

My prediction for next season is that the Wild go deeper (possibly WCF), I really do. I think we'll dump that fatass $7M cap hit Heatley and get more cohesive and more well-oiled for the post season next year. Vanek is a done deal here, but I'm not crazy about him. He's on the back-end of his career, I think. Would be Heatley all over, I think. The local paper did a piece saying Gaborik could come back, which I thought was the dumbest thing I had heard in some time for a number of reasons. Wish Moulson looked more promising during the brief months he spent here this season but he was anything but.
 
My Blues have two very obvious needs. The first is a top-tier goaltender who can play on a reasonably-close level with guys like Lundqvist, Quick and Rask. Ryan Miller obviously wasn't the answer (if only we had gone after Gaborik instead!). Maybe Jake Allen is. He was the AHL goaltender of the year in 2014 so he has the resume. He and Brian Elliott need to make for a dynamic tandem for us to be successful.

The second need is for more skilled and consistent goal scoring. It appears that Tarasenko and Schwartz are developing into serious snipers who can score when you need them to. However, just like Chicago went out and got Hossa a couple of years ago when they already had Toews and Kane, the Kings went and got Gaborik when they already had Carter and Kopitar this season....we need a veteran presence who can get that key goal when needed. Hitchcock's whole strategy is to play from the lead and shut down the other team with smothering defense. The Blues are very good at doing just that. The caveat is....when we don't get the lead, we are not very good at playing catch up. It killed us over and over again against Chicago in this year's playoff and we have to find a way to be able to do that when we have to to compete.

We'll see what Doug Armstrong does in the offseason. With other teams like Minnesota and Dallas on the rise in a conference where the level of competition is already as fierce as you can get, if we don't keep getting better, we're getting worse. Now....baseball season begins!

There has been local talk about us picking up Ryan Miller. lol. I think Kuemper should hold fine for the next few years, but maybe not. You never know with goaltenders as they're all bat-crap nuts. lol
 

bobjustbob

Proud member of FreeOnes Hall Of Fame. Retired to
Martin Brodeur. Why does this guy insist on going into the free agent market? Is something missing from his life? It would have been nice to see him make the tour and hang the jersey from the rafters at the end of this season. Doesn't he see the indignantly of being a backup in another town after such an illustrious career? Oh well, just another name on the list of athletes that decided to hang on too long.
 
Jagr is worse if you ask me. I've never been a fan of players hopping around from team to team after they've already had illustrious careers with mostly one or two franchises. Iginla, for example, should have retired in a Flames jersey. St. Louis should have retired in a 'Ning jersey. Modano, Chelios, Hull, and the list goes on. I think I understand why they do it but it just rubs me the wrong way.
 

Jagger69

Three lullabies in an ancient tongue
There has been local talk about us picking up Ryan Miller. lol. I think Kuemper should hold fine for the next few years, but maybe not. You never know with goaltenders as they're all bat-crap nuts. lol

Miller wants to to go to California from what I am hearing. I'm not too sure that he has any leverage after his lackluster performance in this year's playoffs. Still, he is Ryan Miller so somebody will probably take a run at him. It sure won't be the Blues! My guess is he ends up in Anaheim with a duck on the front of his jersey. :quack:

As for Minnesota, Kuemper looks to be the man from what I have seen. He has size and quickness and who knows what the Wild would have done this year if he had stayed healthy. :dunno: Go Aeros!! :thumbsup:
 
Martin Brodeur. Why does this guy insist on going into the free agent market? Is something missing from his life? It would have been nice to see him make the tour and hang the jersey from the rafters at the end of this season. Doesn't he see the indignantly of being a backup in another town after such an illustrious career? Oh well, just another name on the list of athletes that decided to hang on too long.

For MOST athletes - especially top of the line ones.............knowing when to say "goodbye" is never easy. They were soooooooooooo good for soooooooooooo long they figure even if they are 75% of what they used to be they are better than most and still good enough to play. It is hard to take off the jersey for the last time and walk away from something you have been doing almost all of your life. That is why a large number of athletes are broke and/or divorced within a few years of their retirement. Marty is one of the greatest goalies EVER! No disputing that but the longer he plays the more tarnished his legacy gets. It is like Emmitt Smith who had to play more and played for the AZ Cards and didn't finish his playing career with the Cowboys and we can name many more after this

The market will determine Marty's future. If someone wants him he will play and if not he will either hang 'em up and slink back to the Swamp and play for the Devils. My guess - he plays somewhere else.
 
My Blues have two very obvious needs. The first is a top-tier goaltender who can play on a reasonably-close level with guys like Lundqvist, Quick and Rask. Ryan Miller obviously wasn't the answer (if only we had gone after Gaborik instead!). Maybe Jake Allen is. He was the AHL goaltender of the year in 2014 so he has the resume. He and Brian Elliott need to make for a dynamic tandem for us to be successful.

The second need is for more skilled and consistent goal scoring. It appears that Tarasenko and Schwartz are developing into serious snipers who can score when you need them to. However, just like Chicago went out and got Hossa a couple of years ago when they already had Toews and Kane, the Kings went and got Gaborik when they already had Carter and Kopitar this season....we need a veteran presence who can get that key goal when needed. Hitchcock's whole strategy is to play from the lead and shut down the other team with smothering defense. The Blues are very good at doing just that. The caveat is....when we don't get the lead, we are not very good at playing catch up. It killed us over and over again against Chicago in this year's playoff and we have to find a way to be able to do that when we have to to compete.

We'll see what Doug Armstrong does in the offseason. With other teams like Minnesota and Dallas on the rise in a conference where the level of competition is already as fierce as you can get, if we don't keep getting better, we're getting worse. Now....baseball season begins!

We discussed this in PMs but to me the Blues do need a STUD goalie. How many Cups have Marty and Roy stolen in their career. Too man to count. What Roy did in 1993 would get someone "life without parole" if he did that in public - one of the greatest larceny jobs EVER "stealing" that Cup. The Kings have had enough offense to win the Cup but never really had a shut down Goalie until Quick. yes he let in some softies this post-season but when he HAD to make a save to save the win or keep the team in the game - he did. Blues don't have anyone like that.

I agree on your 2nd point. But I don't think that is the Blues' biggest problem. How much adversity did the Kings face this post-season? Too much to list here and of the 16 teams who made the post-season only the Hawks (and Kings) would have been able to win the Cup facing as much as the Kings did. If you took the Blues aside and asked them in private and had them give you their honest answer - I'm not sure they believe they are good enough to win the Cup and they believe they can. To me the Blues' biggest weakness is between their ears and about 6-inches below their left shoulder blade - they lack HEART! They fold first time they get "hit in the mouth"

As for the Kings - they will be competitive next season but there is a reason we have gone as long as we have w/o a repeat winner. The grind is long and in many cases - more mentally than physically exhausting. The Kings have played 64 post-season games the last 3 season. An NHL season is about 6.5 months long. The last 3 seasons the Kings have played an extra 5.5 months - almost a full season of games just in April-June and as we know the SC games are played with far more intensity than the 82 Reg Season ones. If the Kings had to play any more games this season Doughty might have died. I semi-joke but as many minutes as he played in as many games as he played he was "Leg dead" at the end and if there is any doubt in G5 of the SCF late in 2P when the Rangers scored that SH goal, he NYR guy beat Doughty on the play. I saw the play and fully expected Doughty to never let the guy shoot and instead knock him on his ass. When he got the shot off that told me all I needed to know about Doughty and his legs. I think the Kings will be a post-season force to reckon with but once again they probably won't win their division and maybe not even get HIA and that means they will probably have to go thru Anaheim and San Jose in some order and while both are not built for the post-season while the Kings are the puck bounces funny and bad breaks eliminate teams when they shouldn't. I think the Kings win 1 Round - maybe 2 and make the WCF once again but I can't see another Cup from them.

The Salary Cap now comes into play and with that in mind they almost have to buy out Mike Richards and free up some badly needed money. Expect Gaborik to stay but that won't be cheap even with the "hometown discount" he figures to give the Kings and they will demand of him. Willie Mitchell is a UFA I believe and can't see him coming back. The core is signed for many years but Toffoli and Pearson will get more money and while the Cap figures to go up about $7M it gets eaten up very fast and the hunger there when you don't win it is gone once you do.

Hope the Kings win it in 2014-15 but can't see them doing it.
 

Jagger69

Three lullabies in an ancient tongue
Blues get the prize FA pickup in Paul Stastny!! This is huge for us....allows Backes to move back to his natural RW position and gives us the goal-scoring and play-making center we have lacked to compete with teams like Chicago. This is a huge step in the right direction to have players at the key skill positions. I'm not worried about our goaltending....wait until you see how good Jake Allen is before you judge us in net. The Blues will be right there with the other top teams next year, mark my words. Armstrong isn't done yet either so stay tuned.
 

Jagger69

Three lullabies in an ancient tongue
To me the Blues' biggest weakness is between their ears and about 6-inches below their left shoulder blade - they lack HEART! They fold first time they get "hit in the mouth"

I missed this the first time I scanned through this post so I am now compelled to comment. Since your team won the Cup perhaps you feel like you can assess the intestinal fortitude of teams who didn't fare quite so well in the playoffs this past year. I don't know how much you really know about the Blues organization but to contend that they lack something between the ears and that they also lack "heart" is a total crock of shit my friend. The reason we lost in the playoffs these past few years has nothing to do with "heart". Hitchcock has this team as focused and dedicated to the task at hand as I have ever seen them. The reason we lost is due strictly to the fact that we faced teams who had more talent than we do (did)....period. To draw a first-round opponent in Chicago and to have lost to the Kings last season are proof of this fact and nothing else.

In the PM you sent me you called the Blues "irrelevant". OK, you have the right to say that since you are the champions and all we have to show are T.J. Oshie Geico commercials. Think what you want but I can assure you that Armstrong and Hitch aren't finished molding this team to be more competitive in the post-season and I think this will be manifested in the upcoming season. I hope that all the WC teams think that the Blues are irrelevant just like you.

The Blues don't lack heart....they lack talent. I don't care how much heart you have, if you don't have the ability to go along with it you will fail. My hope and belief is that in the near future we will be able to stack up with the elite teams in the NHL....and that includes the Kings. We just added Statsny and Lehtera so we've already changed the makeup of the roster for the better. More to come I guarantee. The ownership and management are totally focused on winning the Cup....so are our players.

I bleed Blue....always have, always will....no matter how many Cups the Kings might win. My Blues will never be irrelevant. You got that? :mad:

OK, I feel better now. :D

I wonder how 'Nucks fans feel about Miller? Too bad Plasma doesn't post here anymore.

More than that, I wonder how Miller feels about the 'Nucks. I'm certain he didn't envision this happening. This will be entertaining to watch for sure.
 

Jagger69

Three lullabies in an ancient tongue
I think I'm going to be ill....:throwup:

Vladimir Sobotka has a July 21 arbitration hearing with the St. Louis Blues. One problem: He’s now a member of Avangard Omsk of the Kontinental Hockey League, potentially for the next three years.

Is GM Doug Armstrong just going to show up to the hearing with the hope that Sobotka does the same?

“Yeah. Basically,” said Armstrong.

“This is a business decision by Vlad, that I respect. It doesn’t change my opinion on him as a man.”

Sobotka, 27, is one of the best faceoff men in the NHL, winning 61.9 percent of his draws last season. He had 33 points in 61 games, skating 16:44 per game. He was one of the team’s best possession players as well.

He made a paltry $1.3 million against the cap for the last three seasons, and was looking to exponentially increase that in his next contract. The problem for him: He is a restricted free agent, giving the Blues the negotiating high ground and the right to take him to arbitration for a 1-year deal.

Armstrong said talks on a new contract began in February, and the Blues thought they were close. They spoke again after the IIHF world championships, as Armstrong began to hear talk of KHL offers for Sobotka.

The Blues offered contracts ranging from one year to three years to five years. They offered an annual salary north of $3 million. One of their last offers to Sobotka was two years at $3 million per season.

As they negotiated to sign him, they sent him a qualifying offer to retain his rights and then went the arbitration route.

On July 4, Sobotka fired his agent and went with Petr Svoboda, the former NHL player turned agent that brought Jaromir Jagr to Omsk. Less than a week later, Sobotka opted to leave for the KHL.

“He was strongly considering signing in the KHL, said Armstrong on Thursday morning. “I circled back to other players we were talking to, and that included Steve.”

Steve Ott made quite an impression on St. Louis Blues in his 23 games last season, following a trade from the Buffalo Sabres.

There were his zero goals in 23 games. And his three assists. And a minus-12. And 37 penalty minutes, again, in 23 games. And being a drag on possession, as the Blues were plus-3.9 percent in corsi better than when he was on the ice.

But hey, he only had a minus-3 and 14 penalty minutes in six playoff games.

So there weren’t many champagne bottles popped on Thursday when the Blues announced that Ott has been re-signed for two years and $2.6 million annually. But it was a move made out of necessity.

This isn’t necessarily fair to Ott, who is a better player than those 29 games revealed. He remains one of the NHL’s better faceoff men (53.9 percent last season), a nasty little pest to opponents and a good locker room guy, as evidenced by the void he left with the Buffalo Sabres. He also saw his usage change dramatically with the Blues, starting more of his shifts in the defensive zone than he did with the Sabres.

Yet it’s what the Blues are losing with Sobotka that’s the focus.

His rights will be retained by the Blues after the arbitration ruling. Armstrong hoped he’d return to the team next season. But he said that there were larger issues at play here than Vlad Sobotka believing his worth more than $3 million annually.

Like having a restricted free agent go outside the system to force the Blues’ hand.

“The League goes on. No one person can be more important than the fabric of the CBA,” said Armstrong.
 

feller469

Moving to a trailer in Fife, AL.
Bruins look sluggish to start. 1 -1, but not impressive. Lots of young players getting ice time. Obviously early, but there isn't a sense of urgency in their play yet. Caps are next, we will see.
 
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Jagger69

Three lullabies in an ancient tongue
The Blues got off to a less-than-stellar start last night at home against the Rangers. We have so many new faces that it's likely to take a while for things to come together. On the bright side, Tarasenko and Schwartz both look ready for breakout years. We'll be in the mix when it all shakes out.
 
Judge this fantasy team. 1-0 so far.

Patrice Bergeron C | BOS
Brock Nelson C | NYI
Jonathan Toews C | CHI
Brandon Saad W | CHI
Jaden Schwartz W | STL
Patrick Sharp W | CHI
Johnny Boychuk D | NYI
Eric Gelinas D | NJ
Justin Schultz D | EDM
Marek Zidlicky D | NJ

Ben Bishop G | TB
Karri Ramo G | CGY

Bench
Nicklas Backstrom C | WAS
Marian Gaborik W | LA
Damon Severson D | NJ
Roberto Luongo G | FLA
 

feller469

Moving to a trailer in Fife, AL.
The Bruins couldn't be playing any less inspired. They better figure something out quick.
 
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