New Orleans Saints Had "Bounty Program," NFL Says

Between 22 and 27 defensive players on the New Orleans Saints, as well as defensive coordinator Gregg Williams, maintained a "bounty" program funded primarily by players in violation of NFL rules during the 2009, 2010 and 2011 seasons, the NFL announced Friday.

The investigation by the league's security department determined that an improper "pay for performance" program included "bounty" payments to players for inflicting injuries on opposing players that would result in them being removed from a game.

In some cases, the amounts pledged were both significant and directed against a specific opposing player, according to the league's investigation.

Saints general manager Mickey Loomis failed to stop the bounty program when directed to do so by team owner Tom Benson, while coach Sean Payton was aware of the allegations but did not pursue them or take steps to stop the "bounty" program, according to the investigation's findings.

The findings, corroborated by multiple independent sources, have been presented to commissioner Roger Goodell, who will determine the appropriate discipline.

"It is our responsibility to protect player safety and the integrity of our game, and this type of conduct will not be tolerated," Goodell said in a statement. "We have made significant progress in changing the culture with respect to player safety and we are not going to relent. We have more work to do and we will do it."

Goodell has advised the Saints that he will hold proceedings to determine potential discipline against the team and the individuals involved, and confer with the players' union regarding the appropriate punishment. That discipline could include fines, suspensions and the forfeiture of draft choices.

"I have been made aware of the NFL's findings relative to the 'Bounty Rule' and how it relates to our club. I have offered and the NFL has received our full cooperation in their investigation," Benson said in a statement. "While the findings may be troubling, we look forward to putting this behind us and winning more championships in the future for our fans."

Williams did not immediately return calls from ESPN seeking comment.

According to the investigation, the players regularly contributed cash into a pool and received improper cash payments of two kinds from the pool, based on their play in the previous week's game.

Williams administered the program with the knowledge of other defensive coaches and occasionally contributed funds, according to the league investigation.

Payments were made for plays such as interceptions and fumble recoveries. But the program also included "bounty" payments for "cart-offs," meaning that the opposing player was carried off the field, and "knockouts," meaning that the opposing player was not able to return.

The investigation showed that the total amount of funds in the pool may have reached $50,000 or more at its height during the 2009 playoffs. The program paid players $1,500 for a "knockout" and $1,000 for a "cart-off," with payouts doubling or tripling during the playoffs.


"The payments here are particularly troubling because they involved not just payments for 'performance,' but also for injuring opposing players," Goodell said in a statement. "The bounty rule promotes two key elements of NFL football: player safety and competitive integrity."

The NFL has a longstanding rule prohibiting "non-contract bonuses," and they violate both the league constitution and bylaws and the collective bargaining agreement with the players' union. Clubs are advised every year of this rule in a memo from the commissioner.

"Our investigation began in early 2010 when allegations were first made that Saints players had targeted opposing players, including Kurt Warner of the Cardinals and Brett Favre of the Vikings," Goodell said in a statement. "Our security department interviewed numerous players and other individuals.

"At the time, those interviewed denied that any such program existed and the player that made the allegation retracted his earlier assertions. As a result, the allegations could not be proven," Goodell said.

"We recently received significant and credible new information and the investigation was re-opened during the latter part of the 2011 season."

According to the NFL investigation, Benson was not initially aware of the bounty program and directed Loomis to make sure it was discontinued immediately. The evidence showed Loomis did not do so, investigators found.

"Similarly, when the initial allegations were discussed with Mr. Loomis in 2010, he denied any knowledge of a bounty program and pledged that he would ensure that no such program was in place. There is no evidence that Mr. Loomis took any effective action to stop these practices," according to the league's findings.

Payton "was not a direct participant in the funding or administration of the program," according to the investigation.

However, Payton "was aware of the allegations, did not make any detailed inquiry or otherwise seek to learn the facts, and failed to stop the bounty program. He never instructed his assistant coaches or players that a bounty program was improper and could not continue," the investigation found.

The investigation included the review of approximately 18,000 documents totaling more than 50,000 pages, interviews of a wide range of individuals and the use of outside forensic experts to verify the authenticity of key documents.

Adam Schefter is ESPN's NFL Insider.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7638603/new-orleans-saints-defense-had-bounty-program-nfl-says

Take their title away. I knew that they were playing dirty against the Queens in the NFC final in '10. :angrymob:
 
Taking the title away is too much, I admit, but forfeiture of draft picks and suspensions of those involved (coaches, players) need to happen.
 
I figured a story like this would be swept under the rug, since the Saints are in the big time now.
 

maildude

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The only news to this story is that they were dumb enough to get caught. I'm sure that almost every team in the league has some sort of "incentive" fund. Buddy Ryan once had a bounty out on a kicker for fucks sake.
 
Who remembers the NFC Playoffs the year the Saints won? I felt so bad for Favre, he took a serious beating, they were out for blood & he still kept playing, ankle injury and looked like he dislocated his shoulder. I remember he didn't show right after the game for a press confrence but when he finally did he was all beat up bad, looked like he got in a bar fight, cut chin and black eye LOL :rofl2: Damn Trader! :D But Saints should get a hefty fine....
 

BCT

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Who remembers the NFC Playoffs the year the Saints won? I felt so bad for Favre, he took a serious beating, they were out for blood & he still kept playing, ankle injury and looked like he dislocated his shoulder. I remember he didn't show right after the game for a press confrence but when he finally did he was all beat up bad, looked like he got in a bar fight, cut chin and black eye LOL :rofl2: Damn Trader! :D But Saints should get a hefty fine....

You could call Favre a lot of things but he was one tough SOB, his thigh looked like a blue berry after that NFC Title game. I was pissed during that whole fiasco but I have to say I don't miss all the picks he threw in crucial situations lol Aaron Rodgers is the future so all is good.

Back to to the point at hand I have to say i'm bummed about this. The Saints were an underdog franchise that I always pulled for as a kid. Its tough to see this classless scandal happen for a team who I had so much respect for. Its a shame, but they must face the consequences.
 
Not surprised in the least. I think every team in the league has somwthing shady going on. The Saints are just one of the dumber ones who got caught.
 

Darmund

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it was more than obvious during the saints/vikings game... i wa screaming at the tv and literally threw a glass at the wall for the late hits allowed against favre. that giant fetus looking coach of the saints knew what was going on the whole time.


Wow, what a fucking blubbery crybaby you are and if you aren't lying about your age then you were 26 or 27 when that game was played. Grow the fuck up, you faggot loving faggot. It's fucking game, one which you obviously have never played, nor could you ever play. You're the type of scum who goes to games and spends the entire time shrieking vile obscenities and racial slurs at opposing players and fans and the njumps fans from the opposing team in the parking lot.

I pray that you are savagely assaulted at a game and left a cripple in agonizing pain for the rest of your vile bigoted racist life.
 
The only news to this story is that they were dumb enough to get caught. I'm sure that almost every team in the league has some sort of "incentive" fund. Buddy Ryan once had a bounty out on a kicker for fucks sake.

My point exactly. Why people are up in arms about it baffles me. You ask anyone who has ever played football at any level and they will tell you that this is nothing new. Saints dumbasses just got caught. Much like the Patriots back in '07. What they were doing wasn't new, they just got caught largely due to Eric "The Rat" Mangini.
 
Wow, what a fucking blubbery crybaby you are and if you aren't lying about your age then you were 26 or 27 when that game was played. Grow the fuck up, you faggot loving faggot. It's fucking game, one which you obviously have never played, nor could you ever play. You're the type of scum who goes to games and spends the entire time shrieking vile obscenities and racial slurs at opposing players and fans and the njumps fans from the opposing team in the parking lot.

I pray that you are savagely assaulted at a game and left a cripple in agonizing pain for the rest of your vile bigoted racist life.


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Wow, this is probably the WORST post I've ever seen on this entire forum since I've been here (seriously), and that's really, REALLY saying something. :facepalm:
 
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