National Rifle Association (NRA) was created to protect the newly freed slaves.

Jeep!

Jeep!

And Nintendo used to make playing cards. Who cares? Its current function is a lobby organisation for manufacturing industries, and there's no point judging it by anything other than its current actions.
 
HappyHapyJoyJoy

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It's an interesting claim. Too bad it doesn't seem to be true. The NRA themselves don't even claim this. According to them, they were organized in New York because several veterans believed that the average person was a shitty shot and they wanted to improve that. The NRA's own histories, charter, and the biographies of it's founders don't support this claim.

Sounds like these people watch Glenn Beck. On his show David Barton, the conservative activist (who has zero credentials when it comes to history, and frequently has his facts and biases brought into question) made the claim that the NRA was organized to oppose the KKK in the south, but it doesn't seem like there is actually any evidence to support his claims. By all accounts it's a fabrication of Barton's.

But hey, who gives a shit about accuracy, right? The important thing is that Sam supports the NRA and it sounds good.
 
Mayhem

Mayhem

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Origins

The National Rifle Association was first chartered in the state of New York on November 17, 1871[11] by Army and Navy Journal editor William Conant Church and General George Wood Wingate. Its first president was Civil War General Ambrose Burnside, who had worked as a Rhode Island gunsmith, and Wingate was the original secretary of the organization. Church succeeded Burnside as president in the following year.

Union Army records for the Civil War indicate that its troops fired about 1,000 rifle shots for each Confederate soldier hit, causing General Burnside to lament his recruits: "Out of ten soldiers who are perfect in drill and the manual of arms, only one knows the purpose of the sights on his gun or can hit the broad side of a barn."[12] The generals attributed this to the use of volley tactics, devised for earlier, less accurate smoothbore muskets.[13][14]

Recognizing a need for better training, Wingate traveled to Europe and observed European armies' marksmanship training programs. With plans provided by Wingate, the New York Legislature funded the construction of a modern range at Creedmore, Long Island, for long-range shooting competitions. Wingate then wrote a marksmanship manual.[12]

After winning the British Empire championship at Wimbledon, London, in 1874, the Irish Rifle Team issued a challenge through the New York Herald to riflemen of the United States to raise a team for a long-range match to determine an Anglo-American championship. The NRA organized a team through a subsidiary amateur rifle club. Remington Arms and Sharps Rifle Manufacturing Company produced breech-loading weapons for the team. Although muzzle-loading rifles had long been considered more accurate, eight American riflemen won the match firing breech-loading rifles. Publicity of the event generated by the New York Herald helped to establish breech-loading firearms as suitable for military marksmanship training, and promoted the NRA to national prominence.[12]
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Rifle_Association#Origins

Sammwich is even too fuckin' stoopid to use the internet.

And if anyone's interested, hop on over to the Politics section where I just cockslapped the li'l hillbilly doofus, once again, on his own thread, once again. You'll know where to look when you get there.
 
Rey C.

Rey C.

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HappyHapyJoyJoy said:
Sounds like these people watch Glenn Beck. On his show David Barton, the conservative activist (who has zero credentials when it comes to history, and frequently has his facts and biases brought into question) made the claim that the NRA was organized to oppose the KKK in the south, but it doesn't seem like there is actually any evidence to support his claims. By all accounts it's a fabrication of Barton's.
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I have no idea if it was a decision made on the national level, but a group of NRA volunteers apparently did go to South Carolina during the height of Jim Crow and teach some terrorized Blacks to shoot. One of the Jim Crow laws prevented Blacks from owning any firearm other than a shotgun, I believe. See, if they'd had pistols and rifles, it would have been a bit tougher to terrorize them. The NRA opposed that on civil liberties grounds, not because it had any special love for Blacks in general. On an individual front, Charlton Heston, along with other NRA members, was a rather prominent supporter of Dr. King and the Civil Rights movement. But as for the organization being created to help freed slaves or fight the Klan... that's nothing more than revisionist fantasy and myth from weak minded people, including the thread starter here (who I thought had given his word that he was gone forever). The Glenn Becks, Sarah P@lins and Michele Bachmanns of the world are always making shit up that has no basis in truth, reality or history. Fisher is just a parrot that repeats whatever he reads in those weird chain emails those kinds of people circulate amongst themselves. That way, stupid begets stupid.



The important thing is that Sam supports the NRA and it sounds good.
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As an NRA Life member, I really, really wish that I had some way of bouncing him out. Course, he probably isn't a member anyway. As a confirmed liar, nothing he says should be believed.
 
HappyHapyJoyJoy

HappyHapyJoyJoy

Rey C. said:
I have no idea if it was a decision made on the national level, but a group of NRA volunteers apparently did go to South Carolina during the height of Jim Crow and teach some terrorized Blacks to shoot.
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Sure they did. I don't think anyone would question the fact that there have been some supporters of civil rights within the NRA, and that some members of the NRA have taken on any number of noble or charitable causes. But like you say, that does not mean the NRA was created to protect newly freed slaves. That does not make the NRA a civil rights organization. That does not make what Sam is putting forward true on any level.

By Sam's frame of reference the Democratic Party is a pro-Second Amendment Gun Lobby Organization founded to protect America's right to bear arms because some Democrats have voted against gun control.
 
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Sam Fisher

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Mayhem said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Rifle_Association#Origins

Sammwich is even too fuckin' stoopid to use the internet.

And if anyone's interested, hop on over to the Politics section where I just cockslapped the li'l hillbilly doofus, once again, on his own thread, once again. You'll know where to look when you get there.
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Wow... you have quite an impressive resume. No wonder you got a job at a lowly casino dealing cards. That ranks right up there with the scientists and brain surgeons.

:rolleyes:
 
Rey C.

Rey C.

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HappyHapyJoyJoy said:
Sure they did. I don't think anyone would question the fact that there have been some supporters of civil rights within the NRA, and that some members of the NRA have taken on any number of noble or charitable causes. But like you say, that does not mean the NRA was created to protect newly freed slaves. That does not make the NRA a civil rights organization. That does not make what Sam is putting forward true on any level.

By Sam's frame of reference the Democratic Party is a pro-Second Amendment Gun Lobby Organization founded to protect America's right to bear arms because some Democrats have voted against gun control.
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All true. But with Sam being a confirmed moron to begin with, I usually discount anything he posts by 99% before I even open one of his wingnut threads. I assume he came crawling back to FreeOnes because the brotherhood at Storm Front told him he was too dumb to hang out with them. :dunno:
 
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Sorry Libs… The NRA Was There to Help Blacks Defend Themselves From KKK Democrats, Not the Other Way Around

On September 28, 1868, a mob of Democrats massacred nearly 300 African-American Republicans in Opelousas, Louisiana. The savagery began when racist Democrats attacked a newspaper editor, a white Republican and schoolteacher for ex-slaves. Several African-Americans rushed to the assistance of their friend, and in response, Democrats went on a “Negro hunt,” killing every African-American (all of whom were Republicans) in the area they could find. (Via Grand Old Partisan)

Which brings us to today…
Asshat Jason Whitlock, the Kansas City columnist whose article on Jovan Belcher‘s murder-suicide inspired an anti-gun rant by NBC’s Bob Costas, now says that the pro-Second Amendment National Rifle Association is “the new KKK,” Newsbusters’ Tim Graham reported Monday.

Obviously, Whitlock is as ignorant as he is offensive.
The NRA actually helped blacks defend themselves from violent KKK Democrats in the south, not the other way around.
Ann Coulter wrote about the history of blacks and the NRA back in April.

This will give you an idea of how gun control laws worked. Following the firebombing of his house in 1956, Dr. Martin Luther King, who was, among other things, a Christian minister, applied for a gun permit, but the Alabama authorities found him unsuitable. A decade later, he won a Nobel Peace Prize.

How’s that “may issue” gun permit policy working for you?

The NRA opposed these discretionary gun permit laws and proceeded to grant NRA charters to blacks who sought to defend themselves from Klan violence — including the great civil rights hero Robert F. Williams.

A World War II Marine veteran, Williams returned home to Monroe, N.C., to find the Klan riding high — beating, lynching and murdering blacks at will. No one would join the NAACP for fear of Klan reprisals. Williams became president of the local chapter and increased membership from six to more than 200.

But it was not until he got a charter from the NRA in 1957 and founded the Black Armed Guard that the Klan got their comeuppance in Monroe.

Williams’ repeated thwarting of violent Klan attacks is described in his stirring book, “Negroes With Guns.” In one crucial battle, the Klan sieged the home of a black physician and his wife, but Williams and his Black Armed Guard stood sentry and repelled the larger, cowardly force. And that was the end of it.

As the Klan found out, it’s not so much fun when the rabbit’s got the gun.

The NRA’s proud history of fighting the Klan has been airbrushed out of the record by those who were complicit with the KKK, Jim Crow and racial terror, to wit: the Democrats.

Sadly, asshat Whitlock will get away with his outrageous lies.
The early KKK Democrats would be proud.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2965499/posts


Democrat Senator Byrd.



Read up on this turd. And while you're at it... read up on Al Gore's old man.
 
Rey C.

Rey C.

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Hmm... so Dixiecrats were the same as Democrats? And 2+2=5. Wow. The things you can learn here at FreeOnes.
 
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