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Muhammad Ali is 70 today

"I Ain't Got No Quarrel With The VietCong... No VietCong Ever Called Me ******"
-Muhammad Ali

Belated b-day champ!


USMC, Semper Fi!
-I signed up to serve my country & defend the Constitution against ALL enemies, not supporting some faceless corporate interests seeking profit in baseless wars, so Ali did what he believed as just.
 
Beyond the classless display of some members on a birthday thread, they also are too dense to know that a draftee military is a self-defeating prophecy. Sam, you did 3 measley years on one ship? I did 8 years in 6 countries. I don't want anyone in my formation that doesn't want to be there.

That's right - one ship, three years, and ports of call to Japan (three times), Korea (twice), Thailand, Hong Kong, Jakarta, Philippines (six times), Okinawa (overseas home port), Hawaii (four times), Kwajaline, Guam, Juneau Alaska, San Diego (stateside home port) and of the 33 months served on the Juneau, 23 of those months were spent out at sea and in foreign ports.

And Mayhem, thanks for your service to the country. And I'll still continue to say it.. Ali would have been a PR guy. He would have put on exhibition bouts for the troops, served as a moral booster to the troops, been treated well, and would have NEVER been subjected to combat. But, he took the coward's way out and cited his religion for not serving. And what's funny about that is, most everyone in here makes fun of religion... well, um, except when it's someone who was a boxer.

But mention "religion" any other time in here and let the slandering begin! But somehow this clown gets a free pass? And besides that, half the people in here bragging about what a great boxer he was, weren't even born when he was boxing. And they sure as shit don't know anything about the Vietnam war.
 
But mention "religion" any other time in here and let the slandering begin! But somehow this clown gets a free pass? And besides that, half the people in here bragging about what a great boxer he was, weren't even born when he was boxing. And they sure as shit don't know anything about the Vietnam war.

He isn't the only one getting a free pass. Just another name to a long list of famous people who dodged the draft. That list includes names such as Rush Limbaugh, Karl Rove, George Bush, Dick Cheney, Jeb Bush, Newt Gingrich, Bill Clinton, Clarence Thomas, Trent Lott....the list keeps going on. Unlike Ali, however, these guys have absolutely no explanation as to why when called to serve, they opted out.
 

Mayhem

Banned
That's right - one ship, three years, and ports of call to Japan (three times), Korea (twice), Thailand, Hong Kong, Jakarta, Philippines (six times), Okinawa (overseas home port), Hawaii (four times), Kwajaline, Guam, Juneau Alaska, San Diego (stateside home port) and of the 33 months served on the Juneau, 23 of those months were spent out at sea and in foreign ports.

And Mayhem, thanks for your service to the country. And I'll still continue to say it.. Ali would have been a PR guy. He would have put on exhibition bouts for the troops, served as a moral booster to the troops, been treated well, and would have NEVER been subjected to combat. But, he took the coward's way out and cited his religion for not serving. And what's funny about that is, most everyone in here makes fun of religion... well, um, except when it's someone who was a boxer.

But mention "religion" any other time in here and let the slandering begin! But somehow this clown gets a free pass? And besides that, half the people in here bragging about what a great boxer he was, weren't even born when he was boxing. And they sure as shit don't know anything about the Vietnam war.

Read this thread again. I don't see very much in the way of religion. Ali had very legitimate concerns with the hypocrisy displayed by a country "fighting for freedom" all the while, a black man can't so much get a cup of coffee in a white man's restaurant. Where is your indignation over that? Would you have gone to that idiotic war under those circumstances?
 

Rey C.

Racing is life... anything else is just waiting.
Happy belated Birthday to the Greatest of All Time :)

Ditto... :hatsoff:

Along with Dr. J (Julius Erving), Ali is one of the very few sports stars that I'd still love to meet. He was a bad man! He shook up the world!!! :nanner:
 
Read this thread again. I don't see very much in the way of religion. Ali had very legitimate concerns with the hypocrisy displayed by a country "fighting for freedom" all the while, a black man can't so much get a cup of coffee in a white man's restaurant. Where is your indignation over that? Would you have gone to that idiotic war under those circumstances?

I agree with you. Some of the members that criticized Muhammad Ali failed to take into account the fact that he was a victim of racial injustice, hence his refusal to serve in the military and I don't blame him for that. Here is his exact quote:

"Why should they ask me to put on a uniform and go 10,000 miles from home and drop bombs and bullets on brown people in Vietnam while so-called Negro people in Louisville are treated like dogs and denied simple human rights? No, I'm not going 10,000 miles from home to help murder and burn another poor nation simply to continue the domination of white slave masters of the darker people the world over. This is the day when such evils must come to an end. I have been warned that to take such a stand would cost me millions of dollars. But I have said it once and I will say it again. The real enemy of my people is here..... If I thought the war was going to bring freedom and equality to 22 million of my people, they wouldn't have to draft me, I'd join tomorrow. I have nothing to lose by standing up for my beliefs. So I'll go to jail, so what? We've been in jail for 400 years."

And here's a complete excerpt from this article:

Sports champion MUHAMMAD ALI's refusal to fight in the Vietnam war (1957-1975) stemmed from the strong degree of racism he felt pervaded throughout America during the 1960s.

The boxing legend was so infuriated by the ubiquitous segregation throughout his homeland, he viewed the American government as more pernicious than the guerilla militia Viet Cong who were fighting to overthrow the South Vietnamese regime.

Ali's daughter RASHEDA explains, "I now understand his anger. A lot of it was in response to the racism of that time.

"America wanted to send him into the army to fight in Vietnam, but he thought, 'Why should I fight those people over there when I can't even sit down and eat at restaurants in my own country?' That was the sixties.

"He had to ask himself, 'Who's the real enemy? The Viet Cong or the establishment in America?'"

By the way, happy birthday, Muhammad!
 
Muhammad Ali helps make Miami Marlins festivities special
BY ANDRE C. FERNANDEZ
A1FERNANDEZ@MIAMIHERALD.COM
It was far from a typical ceremonial first pitch.

Instead, the Marlins had an unforgettable visit from “The Greatest of All Time” moments before their first game in their new home began.

The pregame festivities at Marlins Park on Wednesday had plenty of Miami flair.

But a surprise appearance by boxing icon Muhammad Ali topped them all and stunned the sold-out crowd of 36,601 in attendance during a Miami-themed pregame ceremony.

“We are dedicating this season to our fans,” Marlins owner Jeffrey Loria said before game. “We’re grateful to them, and we appreciate them. That’s the right thing to do, and that’s what we’re doing.”

Ali emerged from the stadium’s center-field entrance shortly before 7p.m. in a cart alongside Loria, who held Ali’s hands as the cart moved in. Ali, 70, is battling Parkinson’s disease and could not physically throw out the first pitch because of the symptoms related to his condition.

The crowd gave Ali a standing ovation and chanted “Ali, Ali” as the cart made its way to the pitching mound to deliver the opening ball. As the cart made its way to the mound, Ali was able to lift his hand briefly and acknowledge the crowd’s praise.

When the cart reached its destination, a few of the Marlins greeted the sports legend and posed for pictures including Hanley Ramirez, to whom Ali gave the ball.

Ali wasn’t the only sports celebrity, as former Cardinals manager Tony LaRussa and former major-league slugger Frank Thomas also were on hand.

But Ali, who trained for years during his career at the legendary Fifth Street Gym in Miami Beach, gave the opening festivities in Little Havana even more of a Miami feel.

Ali’s appearance highlighted a series of festivities that included the debut of the Marlins’ home run sculpture in center field. The towering statue’s marlins, flamingos and birds moved for 30 seconds to the beat of music produced by Miami music icon Emilio Estefan, with brief fireworks accompanying.

“It’s a night of pride for Miami,” Estefan said. “As a city, you see we’re going to bring a lot of people.

“I’m very proud and honored they picked me for the opening.”

The distinct tropical feel continued during the pregame introductions as Marlins starters were escorted one at a time to the diamond by showgirls with colorful, feathery garb.

There also was a musical video montage with several Miami-based artists.

Singer Jose Feliciano sang the national anthem playing his guitar. This was followed by the traditional fly-over by fighter jets and more fireworks.

The ceremonies also had a touching moment as Sergeant Ivan Alberti, a U.S. soldier serving abroad, got the chance to deliver a live message to his family on the stadium’s Jumbotron scoreboard.

“The opening is a tribute to the United States and Miami — all Miami music,” Estefan said. “All local people, a lot of the history. I put a lot of the last eight months of my life for this — for 40 minutes.

“I worked in the Olympics and three Super Bowls. [Wednesday] is going to be a lot of pride for me, for my kids and my family.”

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/04/04/2732484/muhammad-ali-helps-make-miami.html#storylink=cpy
http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/04/04/2732484/muhammad-ali-helps-make-miami.html

Sad use of Ali for publicity. :facepalm:
 
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