Medical Bills Leading Cause of Bankruptcy in the U.S.

This is terrible. I hope the majority of U.S. citizens put pressure on the current administration to reform health care

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June 4, 2009, 8:45AM EST

Study Links Medical Costs and Personal Bankruptcy

Harvard researchers say 62% of all personal bankruptcies in the U.S. in 2007 were caused by health problems—and 78% of those filers had insurance

By Catherine Arnst

Medical problems caused 62% of all personal bankruptcies filed in the U.S. in 2007, according to a study by Harvard researchers. And in a finding that surprised even the researchers, 78% of those filers had medical insurance at the start of their illness, including 60.3% who had private coverage, not Medicare or Medicaid.

Medically related bankruptcies have been rising steadily for decades. In 1981, only 8% of families filing for bankruptcy cited a serious medical problem as the reason, while a 2001 study of bankruptcies in five states by the same researchers found that illness or medical bills contributed to 50% of all filings. This newest, nationwide study, conducted before the start of the current recession by Drs. David Himmelstein and Steffie Woolhandler of Harvard Medical School, Elizabeth Warren of Harvard Law School, and Deborah Thorne, a sociology professor at Ohio University, found that the filers were for the most part solidly middle class before medical disaster hit. Two-thirds owned their home and three-fifths had gone to college.

But medically bankrupt families with private insurance reported average out-of pocket medical bills of $17,749, while the uninsured's bills averaged $26,971. Of the families who started out with insurance but lost it during the course of their illness, medical bills averaged $22,658. "For middle-class Americans, health insurance offers little protection. Most of us have policies with so many loopholes, co-payments, and deductibles that illness can put you in the poorhouse," said lead author Himmelstein. "Unless you're Warren Buffett, your family is just one serious illness away from bankruptcy."

The study underscores President Barack Obama's arguments in calling for health-care reform legislation this year. In a letter to Democratic Senate leaders this week, the President said: "Health-care reform is not a luxury. It's a necessity we cannot defer. Soaring health-care costs make our current course unsustainable. It is unsustainable for our families, whose spiraling premiums and out-of-pocket expenses are pushing them into bankruptcy and forcing them to go without the checkups and prescriptions they need."

Highest Costs for Diabetes, Neurological Illness
The study was funded by the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation and published online June 4 by the American Journal of Medicine. It will appear in the Journal's August print edition. The researchers examined the court records of a random sample of 2,314 bankruptcy filings across the nation during early 2007, and also contacted those filers for written explanations. The researchers then followed up with extensive phone interviews of 1,032 of those filers.

They found that a number of medical factors contributed to a family's financial disaster. More than 90% of medically related bankruptcies were caused by high medical bills directly or medical costs that were so high the family was forced to mortgage their home. The remaining 8% went bankrupt because a medical problem caused them to lose income. The authors were not able to track credit-card defaults caused by medical bills, but a 2007 study found that, of low- and middle-income households with credit-card debt, 29% used their plastic to pay off medical expenses.

Individuals with diabetes, one of the most common chronic diseases in the U.S., and those with neurological illnesses such as multiple sclerosis had the highest costs, an average of $26,971 and $34,167, respectively. Hospital bills were the largest single expense for half of all medically bankrupt families.

Dr. Woolhandler, an advocate of a single-payer health-care system, said lawmakers in Washington should reconsider health-care reform in light of the study. "Covering the uninsured isn't enough," she said. "Reform also needs to help families who already have insurance by upgrading their coverage and assuring that they never lose it."
 
It's awful, but what's the real answer? Have the government pay?

The government is bankrupt itself... it can't pay it's own bills.

Start with things we KNOW work to bring down costs, and go from there. But the bottom line is that someone with these conditions are just screwed in more ways than one. It's terrible, but that's the way it is.

BTW, there are many charities out there that help pay people's medical treatments that have chronic conditions as well.
 
It's awful, but what's the real answer? Have the government pay?

The government is bankrupt itself... it can't pay it's own bills.

Start with things we KNOW work to bring down costs, and go from there. But the bottom line is that someone with these conditions are just screwed in more ways than one. It's terrible, but that's the way it is.

BTW, there are many charities out there that help pay people's medical treatments that have chronic conditions as well.


BTW charities have more than they can handle now. That is a silly idea. The question for us as a society is this: Do we want a health care system that makes a few people rich, or one that makes people well.
 

Legzman

what the fuck you lookin at?
reform our health care system, but Obama is so far off base its ridiculous. I agree it does need to be overhauled though.

A guy I used to work with, decent guy, filed for bankruptcy last year cause of medical bills. One from an accident at work that my company refused to pay for (what a fucking shock), and one from an auto accident his wife was in a few years later.
 
It doesn't surprise me. The only care that health insurance provides is for its stockholders' portfolios. They overcharge the shit out of whatever services they provide, and then tell you that they can't cover a procedure that's necessary to save your life.

Last year my mom got appendicitis. She, obviously, had to have an emergency appendectomy. It turns out that her health insurance initially declined to cover it because it was a pre-existing condition. NO FUCKING SHIT, SHERLOCK!!! WHAT, DID YOU FUCKING EXPECT HER TO BE BORN WITHOUT A FUCKING APPENDIX, YOU FUCKING GENIUS?!? They sent her a bill for $120,000 dollars for the surgery, and the week that she spent recovering in the hospital. Long story short, it took her 8 months to finally get the insurance company to agree to cover the bill, but not before the hospital turned it over to a collection agency, who apparently are too stupid to understand the term "mistaken charges." Now my mom's credit is completely ruined (she had one credit card with a $20,000 dollar limit on it, and another with a $15,000 dollar limit. Because of this, her credit lines have been reduced to $700 and $500 dollars respectively) because of this bullshit. She hasn't filed for bankruptcy, but she might as well, with all the bullshit she's had to go through.
 

meesterperfect

Hiliary 2020
how about if the GOV just gave working people a large tax break or deduction for buying health insurance for themselves and their families?
Oh no, cant do that, who's gonna pay for all the people who refuse to work? whats it like 30% of the population these days?
thats what this whole things about anyway.
 
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Meester, you need to bring actual facts to the discussion, not made up facts. What is the logical conclusion if welfare and unemployment assistance are taken away? We have millions of bodies in the streets. We, in essence, become Bombay.

If we don't get serious about overhauling the healthcare system...more and more employed people will begin to choose to stop their health plan because they won't be able to afford the premiums. The uninsured pool will soon consist of more employed workers than unemployed (and undocumented).

We can not be short-sighted to *fix* the health system without addressing Medicare. I worry that Obama will take the cheap victory of creating some sort of public insurance option without addressing Medicare. Or, all he'll accomplish is getting the private insurers to stop "prior condition terminations" which are nothing more than profit margin protections for them.

The GOP and their corporate partners have thus far succeeded in fearing up and dumbing down rural America, and the Dems and the Dumb Dems (my term for Southern Dems), seem to have lost their spines...
 

meesterperfect

Hiliary 2020
^
Meester, you need to bring actual facts to the discussion, not made up facts. What is the logical conclusion if welfare and unemployment assistance are taken away? We have millions of bodies in the streets. We, in essence, become Bombay.

If we don't get serious about overhauling the healthcare system...more and more employed people will begin to choose to stop their health plan because they won't be able to afford the premiums. The uninsured pool will soon consist of more employed workers than unemployed (and undocumented).

We can not be short-sighted to *fix* the health system without addressing Medicare. I worry that Obama will take the cheap victory of creating some sort of public insurance option without addressing Medicare. Or, all he'll accomplish is getting the private insurers to stop "prior condition terminations" which are nothing more than profit margin protections for them.

The GOP and their corporate partners have thus far succeeded in fearing up and dumbing down rural America, and the Dems and the Dumb Dems (my term for Southern Dems), seem to have lost their spines...

i try not to over complicate things..
also, if its gonna be bombay like you say, better off letting it happen now.
get it over with, the inevitable, instead of taking downb everybody in the long run
maybe then the millions per year who have kids and cant take care of them will think twice and things will balance out.
bah humbug.
 

Facetious

Moderated
The question for us as a society is this: Do we want a health care system that makes a few people rich, or one that makes people well.

Well, certainly NOT the former ! <- click once Click Twice for full resolution. Yeah, this slime ball johnny edwards might have been our President today, the charmer of ignorant juries with all of his riches ! And he's only one of them !!

Cunning Stunts makes a good point, let's do something constructive for a change instead of engaging in all of the nonsensical and non productive political bickering ! (joke ! the dems want turmoil, the scorched earth policy proponents that they are)

For firsts, how about implementing medical malpractice payout caps for starters ?
Gawd no ! We can't have that, that would be counter productive ! If you dems are so gun ho about squeezing the maximum amount of malpractice revenues out of private physicians, then why are you constantly preaching about the virtues of the socialist system of medicine ? Your family will be lucky to have the government pay for the cost of your cremation after one of the U.S. govt contracted - Non American citizen - green card holding - Yemeni, Venezuelan, Libyan, Chinese, Russian national(s) doctor(s) performs a whoopsy on your jugular.
 

Luxman

#TRE45ON
That Hellraiser was always up to hell raising.
 
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