Man fatally shoots Ark. Dem. chairman at party HQ

LITTLE ROCK, Ark. - A man recently fired from a Target store barged into the Arkansas Democratic headquarters Wednesday and fatally shot the state party chairman before speeding off in his pickup. Police later shot and killed the suspect after a 30-mile chase.

Police identified the suspect as 50-year-old Timothy Dale Johnson of Searcy, a town about 50 miles northeast of Little Rock. They said that moments after the shooting, Johnson pointed a handgun at a worker at the nearby Arkansas Baptist headquarters. An official there said he told the worker, "I lost my job."

Chairman Bill Gwatney died four hours after the shooting. The 48-year-old former state senator had been planning to travel to the Democratic National Convention later this month as a superdelegate. He had backed Hillary Rodham Clinton but endorsed Barack Obama after she dropped out of the race.

I don't really have any smart ass remarks to make for this one.

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Remember the right-wing loon who shot and killed a couple folks at that Unitarian church - he had a bunch of Bill O'Reilly and Michael Savage books for inspiration at home, and admitted that his hatred for liberals was what made him act.

Wonder what's on this guy's bookshelf?

(and if the Right doesn't dig having their homes snooped through for such "terrorist materials" they can keep in mind that it was their big fucking idea to destroy the concept of privacy in America in the first place. My advice to them - Eat it!)
 
At least he didn't use a taser.
 

Jagger69

Three lullabies in an ancient tongue
I have been waiting for his motive to be revealed before making any political comments about this. It's wrong to assume it was a political hate-crime at this juncture. I sure hope it isn't.

Horrible tragedy nonetheless....my heart goes out to his family and friends.
 
Yeah, the Hegel on my bookshelf makes me want to kill too.

"World history is the record of the spirit's efforts to attain knowledge of what it is in itself"

Huh?
 

Legzman

what the fuck you lookin at?
Damn it they missed bush!
 

meesterperfect

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Remember the right-wing loon who shot and killed a couple folks at that Unitarian church - he had a bunch of Bill O'Reilly and Michael Savage books for inspiration at home, and admitted that his hatred for liberals was what made him act.

Wonder what's on this guy's bookshelf?

(and if the Right doesn't dig having their homes snooped through for such "terrorist materials" they can keep in mind that it was their big fucking idea to destroy the concept of privacy in America in the first place. My advice to them - Eat it!)

What the fuck does that have to do with this?
Any excuse to rip the right, man your'e obsessed.
 
It's POSSIBLE there was no sociopolitical motivation to this, but when a dude gets fired and then blames the local head of the Democratic party, it sure looks like there is such a motivation. We'll see (maybe)...

More than "any excuse to rip the right" I've seen an increasing tendency by many on the right to defend anything and everything done by its membership, no matter how egregious or inexcusable. Where were the thoughtful, self-reflective Righties after the Unitarian church shooting who said, "Yeah, maybe Savage, O'Reilly and Rush and co. do take their rhetoric too far; maybe they do agitate whackos like this to take action in these violent ways."

- crickets -
 

Marlo Manson

Hello Sexy girl how your Toes doing?
Regardless of this guys political agenda or his act of violence why in the hell don't these high profile people or organizations have some sort of protection or some kind of security that would eliminate the circumstance that someone gets killed!! if they had some sort of security so they could check for weapons before anyone can be admitted into the premises of such a prime target of dangerous activity due to there agenda?? :rolleyes: :confused:

There's an obvious and often used stereo-typical expression that applies directly to this incident!! "you can feel the tension in the air!! its so thick you can cut it with a knife!!" why on earth would there not be adequate security to subdue and totally eliminate the possibility of this scenario from ever happening in the 1st place??? needless tragic death!! I offer my condolence's to the victim and his family!! :bowdown:
 

Facetious

Moderated
No, actually I don't remember the story of that "right wing loon" who shot and killed two people at a unitarian church and had "michael savage", "bill o'really" books in his personal library. :dunno:

Are you proposing to ban free speech and thought on account of one or two isolated incidents within a nation of 300 million residents ? Get off the Rx man !!

To hell with your marxian-collectivist approach to everything gone awry in this world !
INDIVIDUALS are held responsible for their actions !
 
No, actually I don't remember the story of that "right wing loon" who shot and killed two people at a unitarian church and had "michael savage", "bill o'really" books in his personal library. :dunno:

Are you proposing to ban free speech and thought on account of one or two isolated incidents within a nation of 300 million residents ? Get off the Rx man !!

To hell with your marxian-collectivist approach to everything gone awry in this world !
INDIVIDUALS are held responsible for their actions !

Let me help refresh your memory,surprised you don't remember it as you had several posts in it,mainly going after Obama.

http://board.freeones.com/showthread.php?t=227499&highlight=church+shooting


On this latest shooting,all we know so far was he was apparently a disgruntled person who was out of work.Could be he was just looking to strike out at politicians in general or dems in particular,who knows?:dunno:
 
I wonder what political affiliation Seung-Hui Cho was? Would'nt surprise me if he was a democrat....:1orglaugh

Oh come on lol.I don't think you can say at all what his political beliefs were.But I bet he wouldn't have been in favor of gun control or things like the "Brady Bill".That would have hurt his ability to go on the rampage he went on.:eek:
 
Regardless of this guys political agenda or his act of violence why in the hell don't these high profile people or organizations have some sort of protection or some kind of security that would eliminate the circumstance that someone gets killed!! if they had some sort of security so they could check for weapons before anyone can be admitted into the premises of such a prime target of dangerous activity due to there agenda?? :rolleyes: :confused:

There's an obvious and often used stereo-typical expression that applies directly to this incident!! "you can feel the tension in the air!! its so thick you can cut it with a knife!!" why on earth would there not be adequate security to subdue and totally eliminate the possibility of this scenario from ever happening in the 1st place??? needless tragic death!! I offer my condolence's to the victim and his family!! :bowdown:

Hire security? Have you ever actually visited a state party headquarters? All the ones I've ever been to are just cheap office space and not much else. Besides, nothing says "party of the people" like bulletproof glass and a metal detector, huh?
 

Jagger69

Three lullabies in an ancient tongue
As of this moment there still is no indication that there was a political motivation behind the slaying. From reports I have received, the guy had just either quit or been fired from his job at a Target store after scrawling some derogatory graffiti on a wall and being told not to come back to the store. According to reports, he was extremely agitated when he left the store. Also, a post-it note was found at his residence with Gwatney's name on it but it must also be remembered that the Gwatney family is a prominent name in the car dealership business in Arkansas so who knows how the dots might be connected.

It's a knee-jerk response by liberals that this was probably similar to the incident that recently took place in Tennessee at the Unitarian church and it is likewise a knee-jerk response by conservatives to get defensive about what this guy's motivations might have been. Cooler heads need to prevail here. The more I learn about this incident, the more it looks to me like he was just a highly disturbed individual who had some serious pent up rage in him and simply snapped. Why Gwatney was the target of his angst we may never know.

Not everything is calculated and political in nature. Sometimes, bad things just happen. Again, my heart goes out to the victim and his family.
 

Facetious

Moderated
Truth is, there are nutter killers on both sides of the political spectrum.

Fortunately, at this juncture we prosecute the individual.

This "association" stuff is dangerous to us all, if I may be so collectivist. :tongue:
 

Marlo Manson

Hello Sexy girl how your Toes doing?
Hire security? Have you ever actually visited a state party headquarters? All the ones I've ever been to are just cheap office space and not much else. Besides, nothing says "party of the people" like bulletproof glass and a metal detector, huh?

You maybe right but if they continue to take there safety and welfare for granted like they do as you indicated its really an open invitation for radical opposers to impose there punishment upon thee innocent enemy that are minding there own business?? :confused:

I think in this day and age if the theme is controversial for whatever reason and has the chance of attracting violence cuz somebody has a chip on there shoulder or wants there 15 minutes of fame to inflict revenge on unsuspecting and innocent people that some type of protective measures would be taken into consideration?? which would be better than letting the whacko waltz right in and start shooting the people that are in the wrong place @ the wrong time!? :dunno: :hatsoff:
 

Jagger69

Three lullabies in an ancient tongue
Truth is, there are nutter killers on both sides of the political spectrum.

Yes, and the whole truth is that the vast preponderance of the murders that take place in the United states are committed by killers for whom the motivation is totally apolitcal. Money, lust, greed, revenge, jealousy, sudden rage....I'm pretty certain that all of these triggers would rank way ahead of political motivations. The fact that Mr. Gwatney had a political connotation surely encourages speculation that the crime was somehow politically motivated. At this juncture, this does not appear to be the case.
 
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