Make our day, release your 2011 tax return

[Will E Worm]

Nevada Republican to Harry Reid: Make our day, release your 2011 tax return

Should Sen. Democratic leader Harry Reid follow in the footsteps of GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney by releasing his 2011 tax return?

Dave Buell, chairman of the Washoe Country Republican party in Mr. Reid's political backyard of Nevada, certainly thinks so.

"Senator, make our day and release your 2011 tax return," he said in an email blast Friday evening.

Citing an anonymous source, Mr. Reid has repeatedly claimed in recent weeks that Mr. Romney "didn't pay taxes for 10 years."

Mr. Romney countered that over the past ten years he never paid less than 13 percent of his taxable income and that "Harry Reid's charge is totally false."

Shortly after Mr. Romney released the additional tax information, Mr. Buell blasted out the email calling for Mr. Reid to come clean and release his tax records "so that all Nevadans can see that he is paying his fair share." He added, "In addition, Mr. Reid should explain to all of us how he became a millionaire on a bureaucrat's salary. Mitt Romney earned his money by investing in companies, people and creating jobs in the private sector while Harry Reid made his money by taking money from the private sector and redistributing it through government."

Mr. Buell also pointed out that Nevada has had the highest unemployment rate in the country.

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[zeeblofowl_1969]

Worm your clutching at straws again.

 

[Will E Worm]

Worm your clutching at straws again.

Not at all.

Someone, like Reid, who was so gung-ho about someone else showing their returns should be able to show their returns without whining about it.

 

[Mayhem]

Not at all.

Someone, like Reid, who was so gung-ho about someone else showing their returns should be able to show their returns without whining about it.

I'm "gung-ho" about a Presidential candidate releasing his tax returns also. That doesn't mean that I'm going to publicly disclose mine. Then again, I'm not running for President.

 

[Friday on my mind]

I'm "gung-ho" about a Presidential candidate releasing his tax returns also. That doesn't mean that I'm going to publicly disclose mine. Then again, I'm not running for President.

I agree and seeing the candidates return is especially important when its someone like Romney. His return is a microcosm of one of the real injustices in our society. Someone who makes what he does paying a lousy 14 % or 10% if return had not been manipulated while many workers pay substantially more than that. IMO that is just indefensible but Romney and friends do try.

 

[bobjustbob]

Are we back to this tax return shit again? "I'll show you mine now you show me yours." The IRS has them and if he evaded them then it would have come out. If we left our 401k in and not panicked after the crash then we would have been ahead of the game today. Just like any other investor. Mitt showed his stuff to those who need to know. Would it make you all feel better if he lost big time in the market? Feel sympathy for him? Folks, don't be like the nuts on the right looking for Obama's birth certificate. You have enough with his lack of ideas to mock.

 

[Johan]

Funny as, in a moment of the campaign in wich Romney is more criticized than ever, he suddenly release his tax-return, wich The Democrats have ben asking for monthes.
And, surprise, even if his return is quite low, it is 100% legal, far from what Democrats have been talking about for weeks. Then why didn't he released that so late. Releasing it sooner would have prevent weks and weeks of critics about it.
I don't know what it is, but something's wrong with this shit...

 

[Friday on my mind]

Funny as, in a moment of the campaign in wich Romney is more criticized than ever, he suddenly release his tax-return, wich The Democrats have ben asking for monthes.
And, surprise, even if his return is quite low, it is 100% legal, far from what Democrats have been talking about for weeks. Then why didn't he released that so late. Releasing it sooner would have prevent weks and weeks of critics about it.
I don't know what it is, but something's wrong with this shit...

It's the well known release bad news on a Friday afternoon trick Romney is trying to use. Their calculation is things have been going so bad in the campaign this will be just one more and won't really hurt as much as it might otherwise. They hope by Monday that it won't be that big of a part of the news cycle and that many may have missed it over the weekend.

 

[meesterperfect]

Worm your clutching at straws again.

No he's not.
Reid did step up before congress on the American taxpayers dime and knowingly lie.
he did this knowing that there would be no negative consequences against him.
he did this knowing that the so biased it makes me want to puke news media would jump all over it and the growing population of pea brains would buy into it.
he did this to divert attention from the all around failure of the current PREZ'S tenure.

If i am wrong, then someone tell me another theory as to why he said it.

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Funny as, in a moment of the campaign in wich Romney is more criticized than ever, he suddenly release his tax-return, wich The Democrats have ben asking for monthes.
And, surprise, even if his return is quite low, it is 100% legal, far from what Democrats have been talking about for weeks. Then why didn't he released that so late. Releasing it sooner would have prevent weks and weeks of critics about it.
I don't know what it is, but something's wrong with this shit...

What's wrong with it is that it was bullshit from the minute he opened his mouth.
Can you wrap your mind around that? Get a handle on it? Admit it?

 

[D-rock]

Are we back to this tax return shit again? "I'll show you mine now you show me yours." The IRS has them and if he evaded them then it would have come out. If we left our 401k in and not panicked after the crash then we would have been ahead of the game today. Just like any other investor. Mitt showed his stuff to those who need to know. Would it make you all feel better if he lost big time in the market? Feel sympathy for him? Folks, don't be like the nuts on the right looking for Obama's birth certificate. You have enough with his lack of ideas to mock.

There is a big difference between this and Obama's birth certificate. Nobody but the nutcases ever remotely thought Obama wasn't a naturally born U.S. citizen, there was outside proof that backed Obama's citizenship and age up before he released it, and there is only two simple binomial amounts of information (is he old enough to be president and where he was born) that was relevant on it, that as stated before almost everybody knew and believed anyhow.

Romeny financial records have a vast amount of important and relevant information to the American public that can be obtained. Information that much of it is ether hard to impossible to find out any other way. It's also not a case or mere legality as they can also show vast amounts of information that's wrong with our tax system, even if it's perfectly legal. Just because Romney didn't technically break the law isn't a valid enough reason for the American public not to have access to his tax full tax returns and other financial records if he wants to be president. Romney didn't, and for the most part still hasn't, shown the people that "need to know" considering the American public need to know it.

 

[Mayhem]

Conservatives are experts at fooling themselves. You guys know for a fact that if it was Obama not releasing his returns, you'd have to dig the tops of your skulls out of the ceiling. You would be going completely ape-shit over it and there would 3x the threads about just that than we've posted about Romney.

I call it "Selective Indignation".

 

[meesterperfect]

Conservatives are experts at fooling themselves. You guys know for a fact that if it was Obama not releasing his returns, you'd have to dig the tops of your skulls out of the ceiling. You would be going completely ape-shit over it and there would 3x the threads about just that than we've posted about Romney.

I call it "Selective Indignation".

wrong

 

[Mayhem]

wrong

Well argued.

 

[Fatfishblu]

There is a big difference between this and Obama's birth certificate. Nobody but the nutcases ever remotely thought Obama wasn't a naturally born U.S. citizen, there was outside proof that backed Obama's citizenship and age up before he released it, and there is only two simple binomial amounts of information (is he old enough to be president and where he was born) that was relevant on it, that as stated before almost everybody knew and believed anyhow.

Romeny financial records have a vast amount of important and relevant information to the American public that can be obtained. Information that much of it is ether hard to impossible to find out any other way. It's also not a case or mere legality as they can also show vast amounts of information that's wrong with our tax system, even if it's perfectly legal. Just because Romney didn't technically break the law isn't a valid enough reason for the American public not to have access to his tax full tax returns and other financial records if he wants to be president. Romney didn't, and for the most part still hasn't, shown the people that "need to know" considering the American public need to know it.

Wow. This statement is so wrong I don't even know where to begin? I don't believe Obama is an American citizen. There are too many red flags and those that dismiss these facts are just plain stupid! Libs are bent out of shape on Romney's legit tax returns, yet turn their blind side to the illegal (and shoddy) paperwork of Obama's birth certificate? Your fucking priorities are really messed up! Yet, when one of their own, who practices the exact same investment strategies as Romney, calls out Romney for not releasing his tax returns, every Lib has their panties in a bunch over legit paperwork. Reid needs to put up or shut up. Romney released his legit tax returns and we saw how generous his contributions were to charity. How much did stingy Joe Biden contribute? How much did Obama contribute? Reid? Pelosi? I thought so.

 

[Rey C.]

More so than his "generous" charitable contributions, I think the reason that Romney is not releasing anything other than the 2010 and 2011 returns is because he's not stupid. He knows that the American voters in the middle (the votes he HAS to have to win) wouldn't be exactly thrilled to learn that he has/had significant offshore interests, used solely to (legally) shield much of his income from taxation. I don't think he necessarily did anything illegal. But he knows that whatever his effective tax rate was in those years (and I suspect that he's lying about it always being at east 13%), the nature of his income is not something that he wants people to see.

Romney is a private equity guy. He knows the system and he knows how to play it VERY well. And in these still tough economic times, with many jobs being lost to outsourcing, this is the last thing that he wants to talk about. As for Reid, he's playing politics, right or wrong. He may have done the same thing with his own finances. But he knew that he wasn't running for President and he knew (I think he had a source at the IRS or some accounting firm) that he had a big brush that he could use to paint Romney into a corner that he certainly didn't want to be in. Romney's issue is simply that he doesn't want to get side-tracked having to explain why he has paid an effective tax rate closer to what a secretary or machinist making $60K a year would pay.

Taxes are something that we all deal with. And many of us (yours truly included) have had battles with the IRS. So while the Birthers are nothing more than a lunatic fringe group to most Americans of all (rational) political stripes, when it comes to tax related issues, more of us will pay attention to that than some conspiracy theorist moonbat, claiming that he has seen a secret original document that proves that Obama was born on Mars or where ever.

 

[Mayhem]

 

[lurkingdirk]

How much did Obama contribute?

President Obama donated 22% of his adjusted income in 2011 to charitable causes. I can't be arsed to look up the others you mention, because they all give plenty. Romney gave 10%. While I find his level of giving admirable, it doesn't make him a good presidential candidate.

 

[Rattrap]

So while the Birthers are nothing more than a lunatic fringe group to most Americans of all (rational) political stripes...

I don't believe Obama is an American citizen.

I feel like Romney's tax returns wouldn't change much. That is to say, I don't think they'll paint him any worse than he's already been painting himself throughout the campaign. Like many have already commented in the forum, I've still yet to see anybody bring up a reason to vote for Romney other than an irrationally partisan dislike of Obama.

 

[meesterperfect]

wrong

Well argued.

Ha!

 

[PirateKing]

Ha!