Judge stops federal funding of embryonic stem cell research

Mayhem

Banned
:dunno:

http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/08/23/stem.cell.funding/index.html?eref=mrss_igoogle_cnn

A U.S. district judge granted a preliminary injunction Monday to stop federal funding of embryonic stem cell research that he said destroys embryos, ruling it went against the will of Congress.

The ruling by Judge Royce C. Lamberth was a blow to the Obama administration, which last year issued guidelines to allow federal funding for embryonic stem cell research.

Lamberth's ruling said all embryonic stem cell research involves destroying embryos, which ******** the Dickey-Wicker Amendment included in federal spending bills.

"The Dickey-Wicker Amendment unambiguously prohibits the use of federal funds for all research in which a human embryo is destroyed," Lamberth's ruling said. "It is not limited to prohibit federal funding of only the 'piece of research' in which an embryo is destroyed. Thus, if ESC [embryonic stem cell] research is research in which an embryo is destroyed, the guidelines, by funding ESC research, ******* the Dickey-Wicker Amendment."

One wonders what part of "cure terrible diseases" that Congress fails to understand?
 

Mayhem

Banned
I'm the only one that is bothered by this? Considering that there is something so obviously wrong with the rest of you, I though more people would be invested in this. :thefinger
 

Vlad The Impaler

Power Slave
I'm the only one that is bothered by this? Considering that there is something so obviously wrong with the rest of you, I though more people would be invested in this. :thefinger

:1orglaugh Truthfully I'm kinda torn on the issue. It's important work, and is a stepping stone to one of my favorite interests (nano tech) but morally I'm just not sure.
 

Mayhem

Banned
See, that's the thing. These are cells. I have my own definition about life and when it begins, but at the cellular level? I can't make that leap. And, to bring religion into this: God gave us the tools to figure these things out. IMO, we are ignoring thousands of years of our own evolutionary knowledge. I don't see God being happy about this.
 

Vlad The Impaler

Power Slave
I wish I knew what the left and the right meant I'd probably understand what people are talking about more but then again I don't really give a ****. But I guess if it came right down to it I'm for stem cell research. Does that make me left or right. Cause I've always just decided each issue on its own with no agenda that I was aware of.

This sounds like a shot and I swear it isnt.
 
I think stem cell research is a good thing but I'm torn in someways about it. I need to think more about when I really think life begins as I'm not totally sure anymore.
 

PlasmaTwa2

The Second-Hottest Man in my ******'s Basement
I don't understand the problem. It's not like little Suzie's aborted fetus is going to achieve something with its life. Once it's aborted... what's the problem?
 
Do people not get abortions anyways? So what do they do with the fetus when everything is said and done? Be it the individual getting an abortion, the doctor office performing the abortion, or whoever collects the fetuses in the end.

And this isn't my way of saying I am against or for abortion; however, it is not ******* to have one and people continue to have them. Thus it does not matter what I am for or against what the individual can choose. It happens. Therefore why not study on embryonic research of what people are already doing?

Or does this need to be some sort of ***** donation bank type of thing? Donating a fetus. Sign one line and check one box or the other form and box. It can be something like this:

Sign and check only ONE option:

1) I agree to have an abortion and give up a right of the fetus inside of me. I do, however, wish to not partake in embryonic research due to it being morally wrong and I oppose embryonic research.

2) I agree to have an abortion and give up a right of the fetus inside of me. I do, however, wish to partake in embryonic research due to I feel it is morally responsible to do in my abortion case.


Sounds like a test idea to me. It would give people a choice of what to do with their aborted fetus they no longer want and having taken out of their body.

I believe this could be a worthwhile idea to this problem. It is only an idea. Brainstorming.
 
Fuck these little unborn babies. They're just going to end up being deadbeat **** and prostitot moms who eat Taco Bell 6 days a week and watch American fucking Idol like it's their religion. Stick a coat hanger in these assholes before they become a burden on society and use them for good. Cure a disease or two.

How can people be against this? It is only holding the human race back.
 

PirateKing

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First it's stem cells, next thing you know you're on trial for ******* your own clone in order to get a life insurance settlement.
 

Vlad The Impaler

Power Slave
Fuck these little unborn babies. They're just going to end up being deadbeat **** and prostitot moms who eat Taco Bell 6 days a week and watch American fucking Idol like it's their religion. Stick a coat hanger in these assholes before they become a burden on society and use them for good. Cure a disease or two.

How can people be against this? It is only holding the human race back.

That's beautiful. http://smileys.on-my-web.com/repository/Sad/******-022.gif
 

PlasmaTwa2

The Second-Hottest Man in my ******'s Basement
How can people be against this? It is only holding the human race back.

It's just survival of the fittest in its purest form. We'll continue to **** them to cure our diseases until they learn to defend themselves.
 

Mayhem

Banned
So no reactionary, "you're going to hell for curing Alzheimers" people in here. I was kind of wanting to hear from the other side because I really don't understand them.
 
First it's stem cells, next thing you know you're on trial for ******* your own clone in order to get a life insurance settlement.

DAMN YOU PIRATE KING!!!That was my back up retirement plan after my accountant made off with the funds in my 401k and my stocks in waffles started to tank(damn you IHOP!). Now the g'ment is gonna be on to me due to a bunch of turkeys who post here trying to rip off my idea. This is all because you couldn't stay quite. Did I forget to bribe you or something!?:cussing:
 

PirateKing

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DAMN YOU PIRATE KING!!!That was my back up retirement plan after my accountant made off with the funds in my 401k and my stocks in waffles started to tank(damn you IHOP!). Now the g'ment is gonna be on to me due to a bunch of turkeys who post here trying to rip off my idea. This is all because you couldn't stay quite. Did I forget to bribe you or something!?:cussing:
Wouldn't have worked anyways since your clone would probably get the same idea and therefore try to **** you. It's better to just prevent cloning altogether.
 

emceeemcee

Banned
groan @ the 'I don't know where life begins' argument.....


how about asking when pain begins? A dish of cells which has no nerve endings vs diabetic who has to undergo thousands of needle sticks every year- you can certainly speculate about whether the former can feel any pain, the latter is not up for debate.


Case ****** fuckin closed. Now support this ****!
 
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