Infinite regress

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Butler, although a self-described Republican, responded by supporting Roosevelt in that year's election. In a 1995 History Today article Clayton Cramer argued that the devastation of the Great Depression had caused many Americans to question the foundations of liberal democracy. "Many traditionalists, here and in Europe, toyed with the ideas of Fascism and National Socialism; many liberals dallied with Socialism and Communism." Cramer argues that this explains why some American business leaders viewed fascism as a viable system to both preserve their interests and end the economic woes of the Depression.
This post sparked the surfacing of a thought that had been swimming around under the surface of my conscious for a while:

What if all our political posturing, all our ideals that we get so passionate about is nought but a mere veneer and that really we simply operate as pre-dispositioned to do so.
Look at what I quoted:
The right went further right, the left further left. Nobody questioned their beliefs, they just reinforced them, and it makes you think, do we ever question our beliefs? I find it hard to believe that the rightists believe what to me seems just awful BS, yet when you talk to people, they do seem to be pre-determined that way.
I work with a woman (bit of a crazy cat-lady) who thinks everything must be done just so at work and doesn't seem to recognise that the boss puts us through pointless BS at all. She is, of course, right-wing and it seems to me she's never stopped to think about it. But then again, surely it would seem to her that I've never stopped to think about my "fickle, hapless, silly liberalism"?

I suddenly admit to myself that I have for years been denying that I've had the sneaking suspicion that every reason I can give for my beliefs and ideals exists only because I WANT IT TO: Because I needed some credible support for my beliefs and ideals and that that's WHY I have these thoughts; it suddenly seems that I believe what I choose to and make my thoughts to justify my ideals and beliefs rather than basing my thoughts and beliefs on rational, independant conclusions.

A couple of weeks ago I went for a ***** with a friend (breaking my vow not to *****, but I hadn't seen my friend in ages, I didn't go off the rails and spend a mint and I haven't ***** since, so I don't regret it.
While waiting for my friend I saw a guy walk out of nowhere and pick on a tramp; accuse him of having been ********.
My immediate thought was: "You pathetic arse. Never assume. You're pathetic for picking on the weak."
The tramp said he hadn't been ********. Later his friend walked out of the supermarket and handed him a bottle, which made me decide not to give them any money.
I was reminded of the German Idiom (how good the Germans are with Idioms; a favourite example being earworm) I learnt from Goodbye Lenin: Under 30 and not liberal: No heart. Over 30 and still liberal: No brain.

I'm still under 30 and still feel that my sensibilities lie to the left, but I ask you to look inward and decide (be honest, not just with the board, but with yourself) wether you really CAN offer yourself rational justification for your beliefs and ideals, or are those justifications that you offer available only because you seek them to justify your instinctive feelings, liberal or contrary?

Do you only lean to the right or the left because you naturally lean that way, rather than for reasons like the policies of the ruling parties?
 

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