I can't decide if those San Diego Charger unis are fugly or

[titsrock]

fraking cool. I think I can't get used to the white helmet...The white helmet with the white jersey...yuck! The shoulder stripe/bolts look to be at a strange angle too

My eyes are hurting too much just watching this preseason game against StL...time to go back to Weather Channel and see what that demon Dean is up too...

Alright....San Diego is going to clown the NFL. Gates just made a sick catch...:bowdown:

Anyone have any thoughts on SD Chargers unis or other teams' unis?

Sorry to reply to my own post but the "Push Out" rule has to be the dumbest rule in professional sports. Wow. Talk about penalyzing a defender for making a great play...

 

[AFA]

No. My neighbors will be pissed if I don't go with the neighborhood loyalty.

 

[Iamforever]

Sorry to reply to my own post but the "Push Out" rule has to be the dumbest rule in professional sports. Wow. Talk about penalyzing a defender for making a great play...

the push out rule is necessary. otherwise i would push the receiver every fucking time. i can tell you never played football.

 

[slikpulla152]

the "Push Out" rule has to be the dumbest rule in professional sports. Wow. Talk about penalyzing a defender for making a great play...

that's just fucking ridiculous... i wouldn't do that on a video game, you might as well just take away pass interference and holding too.

the stupidest rule is that spiking the ball = delay of game penalty. They just put that in this year and makes no damn sense.

If you spike the ball in the middle of your teams' drive it goes against their playclock. It's not college where they start the clock when the ref put the ball on the line of scrimmage... that's just a dumbass rule

 

[titsrock]

the push out rule is necessary. otherwise i would push the receiver every fucking time. i can tell you never played football.

I can tell you're a terrible fan in addition to never playing football yourself. Professionals are supposed to be "professionals." They're supposed to be the best of the best. If a DB hits a WR before the ball arrives, it's PI. That would prevent your idiotic assumption from taking place. QB's need to throw the ball accurately. What's wrong with wanting that? If you bothered to actually analyze the play, you'd realize that a WR has to leap to make a catch, in order to compensate for the QB's terrible throw (or intentional high throw in Red Zone), and the only non-interference play is for the DB to shove the WR out. It's a great defensive play which stupidly is overly penalized in the NFL.

Since we're tangentially on the topic---in every case that I can think of--the college rules are far, far, far superior to the Pro rules...The Pro game has been "pussied out" for lack of a better description...

that's just fucking ridiculous... i wouldn't do that on a video game, you might as well just take away pass interference and holding too.

I stopped reading when you introduced "video games" into the discussion. :uohs:

 

[slikpulla152]

speaking for myself... i know the rules.
I know what PI is, I know what the push out rule is and your reasoning for why this rule should be removed from the books is stupid to me.

Your giving all this credit to dbs for doing such a great defensive job for pushing the guy out of bounds. What about the fact that the reciever must maintain control of the ball as if it was any other catch, while being pushed out of bounds in mid-air.

So your "great defensive play" defense is cancelled out by the great offensive play of the reciever.

Then you say the qb shouldn't get away with trying to throw the ball out of play. But intentional grounding is when there is no receiver near the throw. Obviously, a reciever must at least be somewhere in the vicinity of the ball if he caught it.

Then your accusing the consequence of this push out rule as "stupidly over penalized", but their is no penalty... bro. They just call it a catch.

As far as college rules go.. it's irrelevant to the NFL. I was just pointing out that i could understand if spiking the ball made the clock continue to be stopped, however, it doesn't in the NFL... so why penalize the team 5 yards of the field for some shit like spiking the ball.

 

[titsrock]

speaking for myself... i know the rules.
I know what PI is, I know what the push out rule is and your reasoning for why this rule should be removed from the books is stupid to me.

Your giving all this credit to dbs for doing such a great defensive job for pushing the guy out of bounds. What about the fact that the reciever must maintain control of the ball as if it was any other catch, while being pushed out of bounds in mid-air.

So your "great defensive play" defense is cancelled out by the great offensive play of the reciever.

Then you say the qb shouldn't get away with trying to throw the ball out of play. But intentional grounding is when there is no receiver near the throw. Obviously, a reciever must at least be somewhere in the vicinity of the ball if he caught it.

Then your accusing the consequence of this push out rule as "stupidly over penalized", but their is no penalty... bro. They just call it a catch.

As far as college rules go.. it's irrelevant to the NFL. I was just pointing out that i could understand if spiking the ball made the clock continue to be stopped, however, it doesn't in the NFL... so why penalize the team 5 yards of the field for some shit like spiking the ball.

Maintain control? All he has to do is hold onto the ball. He can't be touched until he catches it. It's not that difficult. It's more difficult to perfectly time AND shove a 6'5" WR. Sorry. I see the DB's POV in this case.

Automatically awarding a catch when he did not get 2 feet in bounds..shit..I'd say that's enough of a reward/penalty. Especially when that catch results in a score! I'd be fine with a compromise of making the WR get 1 foot in bounds for End Zone catches,when he's clearly being shoved out by the DB.

College rules are better. For example, in college, they allow DB/WR contact past 5 yards. That's better. College plays a fair overtime. There's no asinine "in the grasp" rule in College..and so on...

 

[D-rock]

Just remember no uniform could possibly be as bad as the old Tampa Bay ones. :1orglaugh


In college football they don't have a rule against pushing people out of bonds and it doesn't dramatically ruin the game. In fact I think technically the defender could catch the receiver in mid air, hold him where his feet don't touch the ground, walk over to the side line, and toss him out. That is a little impractical though.

 

[titsrock]

I think college football is a weak when it comes to having a knee touch the turf and having the ground cause a fumble. The ground should be able to cause a fumble, because, it means you weren't holding on to the ball...I think in the NFL the ground can cause a fumble.

 

[slikpulla152]

Maintain control? It's not that difficult.

Automatically awarding a catch when he did not get 2 feet in bounds..shit..I'd say that's enough of a reward/penalty. Especially when that catch results in a score! I'd be fine with a compromise of making the WR get 1 foot in bounds for End Zone catches,when he's clearly being shoved out by the DB.

College rules are better. For example, in college, they allow DB/WR contact past 5 yards. That's better. College plays a fair overtime. There's no asinine "in the grasp" rule in College..and so on...

Keeping control of the ball while being in such a vulnerable position and having to maintain control even after you hit the ground is difficult. Especially if it's one of those fade routes in the endzone... you can't convince me otherwise

and HOW can the reciever put a foot in bounds when he's been pushed a good 4/5 yards out of bounds...? that makes no sense to me at all.

That's why they came to this general solution to have some way of a compromise for this situation. It's not perfect but it's as good as it can be done. If you have a perfect solution for this ruling... "other than the 1 foot in bounds" please share...? but i know you don't have one.

 

[Iamforever]

I can tell you're a terrible fan in addition to never playing football yourself. Professionals are supposed to be "professionals." They're supposed to be the best of the best. If a DB hits a WR before the ball arrives, it's PI. That would prevent your idiotic assumption from taking place. QB's need to throw the ball accurately. What's wrong with wanting that? If you bothered to actually analyze the play, you'd realize that a WR has to leap to make a catch, in order to compensate for the QB's terrible throw (or intentional high throw in Red Zone), and the only non-interference play is for the DB to shove the WR out. It's a great defensive play which stupidly is overly penalized in the NFL.

Since we're tangentially on the topic---in every case that I can think of--the college rules are far, far, far superior to the Pro rules...The Pro game has been "pussied out" for lack of a better description...

safety thank you very much.


by your theory, there would be legal pass interference. that would really cut down the passing game, as db's would be all over the receiver. keep your sandlot rules in the sandlot.

 

[CptHa]

Titsrock, you never went across the middle did you? As far as SD's uniforms, I think they look great, especially the powder blue version.

 

[CptHa]

I think college football is a weak when it comes to having a knee touch the turf and having the ground cause a fumble. The ground should be able to cause a fumble, because, it means you weren't holding on to the ball...I think in the NFL the ground can cause a fumble.

College rules state that once a player touches the ground, the play is over and the ball is dead, therefore the ground cannot case a fumble. In the NFL the only way the ground can cause a fumble is if a player falls under his own power, i.e. not tackled, and loses the ball. Also, there are some instances where no matter how well you hold on to the football, it will come out, like when someone lands a helmet on the ball. When that happens the ball comes out 95% of the time.

 

[D-rock]

I think they should go back to the rules the NFL used to have where the defensive was allowed to touch and shove around the receivers as much as they wanted until the ball had been thrown. The NFL has sold out to the concept of more offense all the time. In fact it seems like 99% of the new rules and clarifications that have been created in the last 30 years have been to help the offense out.

 

[Iamforever]

I think college football is a weak when it comes to having a knee touch the turf and having the ground cause a fumble. The ground should be able to cause a fumble, because, it means you weren't holding on to the ball...I think in the NFL the ground can cause a fumble.

man, you really dont know football do you?

 

[ChefChiTown]

Since we're tangentially on the topic---in every case that I can think of--the college rules are far, far, far superior to the Pro rules...The Pro game has been "pussied out" for lack of a better description...

Where in the hell are you getting this from? :dunno:

In college, if the ball carrier falls to the ground without being touched, he is considered "down" because they want to avoid injuries...pussies.

In college, you only need one foot inbounds for a catch to count...pussies.

In college, the clock stops after first downs so the team can reset itself and not have to hurry too much...pussies.

Just to name a few examples of why your statement astounds me.

Plus, they are actually petitioning within the NCAA to make college football have 5 downs instead of 4...pussies.

 

[titsrock]

Where in the hell are you getting this from? :dunno:

(A)In college, if the ball carrier falls to the ground without being touched, he is considered "down" because they want to avoid injuries...pussies.

(B)In college, you only need one foot inbounds for a catch to count...pussies.

(C)In college, the clock stops after first downs so the team can reset itself and not have to hurry too much...pussies.

Just to name a few examples of why your statement astounds me.

(D)Plus, they are actually petitioning within the NCAA to make college football have 5 downs instead of 4...pussies.

ChefChitown...someday you'll realize you're being sold a bill of goods with respect to the quality of the NFL game. It is in dire need of "revamping" beginning with "in the grasp" (please defend THAT), the coaches tossing flags for instant replay (defend THAT), the shove-out play and other issues. I'll bring more up later. I want to get to your post and address other people all at once.

I've labeled the statements A-D, so I can respond without having to do a massive copy/quote/paste thing.

A)What do you want me to say? This is weak and I basically already said it above.

B)Flat-out disagree here. This is why there needs to be a difference between college and pro. This rule actually helps "little" teams compete against "Goliath Program." Since the NFL has a salary cap, free agency etc., they try to make all teams competitive and they don't need to worry about the New York Giants beating Jville 80-0. College rule is fine. The pro rule is fine. This should not be changed.

C)Wrong, wrong wrong. Every game matters in college. Not every game matters in the pros. There's plenty of excitement in the college game, especially when the team runs out of TO's. Colleges also don't have ALL DAY EVERY DAY to memorize 2 Minute drills. AGAIN. There has to be a difference between the PRO'S and the Colleges. College also has an incredibly exciting overtime system. Please defend the NFL's choice for handling overtime.

D)I don't know what the hell you're talking about here. Please cite a recognized source for this.

Iamforever--please stay out of the discussion. You don't make any sense, anywhere. If you can contribute something meaningful and understandable, fine. If you just randomly blurt out "SAFETY." Leave the topic to people capable of making arguments. Cptha clarified the ground causing fumble rules, which, actually, I was correct, if you go reread my post.

Cptha--only TE's go over the middle anymore in the Pro game. College WRs go over the middle all the time. I agree, the Powder Blue Charger unis are awesome. I even like the number on the helmet. I think this new all white look they have is ugly.

 

[Iamforever]

Iamforever--please stay out of the discussion. You don't make any sense, anywhere. If you can contribute something meaningful and understandable, fine. If you just randomly blurt out "SAFETY." Leave the topic to people capable of making arguments. Captha clarified the ground causing fumble rules, which, actually, I was correct, if you go reread my post.

of course i dont make any sense to you. you have no idea what you are even saying. proof is in the second quote in this post.

me "blurting" out safety was in response to you saying that i never played. i suggest you read as well as telling others to read.

Captha--only TE's go over the middle anymore in the Pro game.

:1orglaugh

 

[slikpulla152]

i stopped arguing with this dude last nite... he doesn't even know what's he's tryna prove anymore.

qoute of the day: "I'd be fine with a compromise of making the WR get 1 foot in bounds for End Zone catches,when he's clearly being shoved out by the DB."

jesus...

 

[titsrock]

So says the guy with all the baseball shit in his signature...