Humans are plague on Earth

Will E Worm

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David Attenborough - Humans are plague on Earth
Humans are a plague on the Earth that need to be controlled by limiting population growth, according to Sir David Attenborough.


The television presenter said that humans are threatening their own existence and that of other species by using up the world’s resources.

He said the only way to save the planet from famine and species extinction is to limit human population growth.

“We are a plague on the Earth. It’s coming home to roost over the next 50 years or so. It’s not just climate change; it’s sheer space, places to grow food for this enormous horde. Either we limit our population growth or the natural world will do it for us, and the natural world is doing it for us right now,” he told the Radio Times.

Sir David, who is a patron of the Optimum Population Trust, has spoken out before about the “frightening explosion in human numbers” and the need for investment in sex education and other voluntary means of limiting population in developing countries.

“We keep putting on programmes about famine in Ethiopia; that’s what’s happening. Too many people there. They can’t support themselves — and it’s not an inhuman thing to say. It’s the case. Until humanity manages to sort itself out and get a coordinated view about the planet it’s going to get worse and worse.”

Sir David, whose landmark series are repeated from Monday on BBC2, starting with Life on Earth, has also spoken out about the change in wildlife documentaries during his lifetime.

The 86-year-old said commentary from presenters like himself are becoming less necessary as camera work is able to tell a story.

“I’m not sure there’s any need for a new Attenborough,” he said. “The more you go on, the less you need people standing between you and the animal and the camera waving their arms about.

“It’s much cheaper to get someone in front of a camera describing animal behaviour than actually showing you [the behaviour]. That takes a much longer time. But the kind of carefully tailored programmes in which you really work at the commentary, you really match pictures to words, is a bit out of fashion now … regarded as old hat.”

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Let elderly people 'hurry up and die', says Japanese ministerTaro Aso says he would refuse end-of-life care and would 'feel bad' knowing treatment was paid for by government

Japan's new government is barely a month old, and already one of its most senior members has insulted tens of millions of voters by suggesting that the elderly are an unnecessary drain on the country's finances.

Taro Aso, the finance minister, said on Monday that the elderly should be allowed to "hurry up and die" to relieve pressure on the state to pay for their medical care.

"Heaven forbid if you are forced to live on when you want to die. I would wake up feeling increasingly bad knowing that [treatment] was all being paid for by the government," he said during a meeting of the national council on social security reforms. "The problem won't be solved unless you let them hurry up and die."

Aso's comments are likely to cause offence in Japan, where almost a quarter of the 128 million population is aged over 60. The proportion is forecast to rise to 40% over the next 50 years.

The remarks are also an unwelcome distraction for the new prime minister, Shinzo Abe, whose first period as Japan's leader ended with his resignation after just a year, in 2007, partly due to a string of gaffes by members of his cabinet.

Rising welfare costs, particularly for the elderly, were behind a decision last year to double consumption [sales] tax to 10% over the next three years, a move Aso's Liberal Democratic party supported.

The 72-year-old, who doubles as deputy prime minister, said he would refuse end-of-life care. "I don't need that kind of care," he said in comments quoted by local media, adding that he had written a note instructing his family to deny him life-prolonging medical treatment.

To compound the insult, he referred to elderly patients who are no longer able to feed themselves as "tube people". The health and welfare ministry, he added, was "well aware that it costs several tens of millions of yen" a month to treat a single patient in the final stages of life.

Cost aside, caring for the elderly is a major challenge for Japan's stretched social services. According to a report this week, the number of households receiving welfare, which include family members aged 65 or over, stood at more than 678,000, or about 40% of the total. The country is also tackling a rise in the number of people who die alone, most of whom are elderly. In 2010, 4.6 million elderly people lived alone, and the number who died at home soared 61% between 2003 and 2010, from 1,364 to 2,194, according to the bureau of social welfare and public health in Tokyo.

The government is planning to reduce welfare expenditure in its next budget, due to go into force this April, with details of the cuts expected within days.

Aso, who has a propensity for verbal blunders, later attempted to clarify his comments. He acknowledged his language had been "inappropriate" in a public forum and insisted he was talking only about his personal preference.

"I said what I personally believe, not what the end-of-life medical care system should be," he told reporters. "It is important that you be able spend the final days of your life peacefully."

It is not the first time Aso, one of Japan's wealthiest politicians, has questioned the state's duty towards its large elderly population. In 2008, while serving as prime minister, he described "doddering" pensioners as tax burdens who should take better care of their health.

"I see people aged 67 or 68 at class reunions who dodder around and are constantly going to the doctor," he said at a meeting of economists. "Why should I have to pay for people who just eat and drink and make no effort? I walk every day and do other things, but I'm paying more in taxes."

He had already angered the country's doctors by telling them they lacked common sense, made a joke about Alzheimer's patients, and pronounced "penniless young men" unfit for marriage.

In 2001, he said he wanted Japan to become the kind of successful country in which "the richest Jews would want to live".

He once likened an opposition party to the Nazis, praised Japan's colonial rule in Taiwan and, as foreign minister, told US diplomats they would never be trusted in Middle East peace negotiations because they have "blue eyes and blond hair".

While figures released on Monday showed a record 2.14 million Japanese were receiving welfare in October 2012, Aso has led a life of privilege few of his compatriots could hope to match.

He is the grandson of Shigeru Yoshida, an influential postwar prime minister, and is married to the daughter of another former premier.

While campaigning for the premiership in 2008, Aso refused to acknowledge the use of hundreds of allied prisoners of war by his family's coal mining business during the second world war. He served as president of the firm's successor, Aso Cement, from 1973-79.

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Taro Aso 72 years old. He can go ahead and die.

Attenborough 86, he can go as well.

Liberal elitists who think they know what is better for everyone else. They want to dictate how long you can live and say humans are a plague, but people like these never commit suicide. :facepalm:
 

Mr. Daystar

In a bell tower, watching you through cross hairs.
We are a plague on Earth...who in the fuck do you think is destroying it?!?!

Law #1) No job, no kids. If you're a welfare slug, you have no right to ovaries, and or testicles. (no eggs or sperm is acceptable, as a substitute).

Law #2) No fertility drugs. If you can't get pregnant the real way, it wasn't meant to be.

Law #3) If there is sufficient dna, or video evidence of you murdering someone, you die no more then a year after you're convicted. There is no reason to be on death row 15 years.

Law #4) If there is no hope for you to recover from an illness, and you are on life support, pull the plug. If your family wants it pulled, pull it, if your 90 years old, there was no reason for you to be put on it in the first place.
 
Law #1) No job, no kids. If you're a welfare slug, you have no right to ovaries, and or testicles. (no eggs or sperm is acceptable, as a substitute).
So I guess you're a strong supporter of abortion and planned parenthood

What about the chinese One-child policy being applied to the rest of the "civilised world" ?
 
The earth is getting older, not better.

We can't save the earth it will die someday.

Don't be an elitist snob.
If we can do nothing to save the planet, then one's gotta be elitist 'cause no space shuttle wil ever be large enough to carry 6.000.000.000 people to another planet. Some "selection" will happen and about 99, 99% people will be left to die with the Earth. So, to maximise his chance not to be one of them, one has to convinced the guys who will be choosing the ones that will leave that he deserves to be one of them, that he is better than the others.

So please, Will, act as you say, don't be an elitist snob but let us be so :wave2:
 

Mr. Daystar

In a bell tower, watching you through cross hairs.
The earth is getting older, not better.

We can't save the earth it will die someday.

Don't be an elitist snob.

Are you fucking kidding me?!?! I wear jeans and Harley shirts. I throw bottles into whatever fucking can I please. I drive a truck that gets 11mpg on a good fucking day, I hate people that drive German luxury sedans, and people that whine about the earth more then any fucking human being you will EVER meet...including you and Sam. Elitist snob!?!?

You sir, can kindly go fuck yourself.

Johan said:
So I guess you're a strong supporter of abortion and planned parenthood

What about the chinese One-child policy being applied to the rest of the "civilised world" ?

I'm not a supporter of abortion, I just don't care if a girl gets one...it isn't my job to judge. My name is Mark, not Jesus. I don't think planned parenthood is a bad thing, and an important source for young adults. I don't think a 15 year old girl should be allowed to get an abortion without her parents being told, especially if they have to legally support her, but she shouldn't be forced to carry out her parents beliefs either.

I just get a little sick and tired of people on welfare, that have always been on welfare, having 5 or 6 kids, by 5 or 6o fathers. If you need assistance because your unemployment has run out, and you've worked your whole life, but are currently fucked by the economy, that's one thing, but if you get pregnant at 15, and by 18, have turned into a baby factory, and made no effort to stop the cycle, and do better. You deserve to be sterilized...and if you're a baby daddy that spends his day living off of some stupid broads welfare check, and make no effort to get employment...snip, snip!

I don't really know what that is, but if the gist is, you are only allowed one child ever, no. If that's what you can afford, then you should have the sense to use birth control, and not have anymore...but what happens down the road if you can afford another, and would like to expand your family?
 

Lolita_Borgia

Official Checked Star Member
Humans are a plague - I do agree with that! But will we destroy the earth, are we responsible for global warming... my opinion is NO. Are we polluting the earth, are we controlled by greed & capitalism, are we over populating - yes we are. Being the ego-centered species that we are we do like to accredit even the worst things to our 'own doing' like global warming/climate change. Amazing how the earth has constantly gone though climate changes over the billions of years before we began fucking around with nature... The earth like all planets will eventually die but this will not be caused by humans, nature will exterminate us to ensure the survival of the planet if we don't get our environmental shit together soon! Its a pity in our white arrogance that we didn't learn from the indigenous people about the countries we settled before we got them hooked on alcohol so we could take them over more easily. The aborigines here were utilising environmental practices for 40 000 years & we are only just abiding by them now... :2 cents:
 
Does it matter if we are a plague or not? Will we change our behavior if we accept we are?

I don't think we will, so the answer to the first question is no. People must have been pondering about the plague question for at least a century & nothing has changed yet.
 

Mr. Daystar

In a bell tower, watching you through cross hairs.
revidffum :D





It doesn't matter. The earth would die one day with or without us.


Capitalism is a great thing and we are not overpopulated.

It will die, with or without us...we're just like the heroin that kills it quicker.

Yes it is, and YES we are.
 

meesterperfect

Hiliary 2020
well the USA has a solution for the problem.
pay people who can't afford to raise kids money for reproducing.
allow millions of poor people from another country to come on up and pay them to do the same.
its working, just look how much better everything is getting.
 
I'm not a supporter of abortion, I just don't care if a girl gets one...it isn't my job to judge. My name is Mark, not Jesus. I don't think planned parenthood is a bad thing, and an important source for young adults. I don't think a 15 year old girl should be allowed to get an abortion without her parents being told, especially if they have to legally support her, but she shouldn't be forced to carry out her parents beliefs either.

I just get a little sick and tired of people on welfare, that have always been on welfare, having 5 or 6 kids, by 5 or 6o fathers. If you need assistance because your unemployment has run out, and you've worked your whole life, but are currently fucked by the economy, that's one thing, but if you get pregnant at 15, and by 18, have turned into a baby factory, and made no effort to stop the cycle, and do better. You deserve to be sterilized...and if you're a baby daddy that spends his day living off of some stupid broads welfare check, and make no effort to get employment...snip, snip!
Pretty OK with all that.

The earth like all planets will eventually die but this will not be caused by humans, nature will exterminate us to ensure the survival of the planet if we don't get our environmental shit together soon
I'm not very sure of that...
I mean, we are a very adaptable specie. Nature sended many terrible diseases on (such as the Black Death, the 1918 Flu Pandemic, the Ebola virus, etc...) and we're still alive and our number hasn't even decreased. We may even cure AIDS within a decade. So Idon't think Nature can destroy mankind without destroying itself (or, at least, destropying a huge part of life, as it happened for the extermination of dinosaurs).

Humans are even worst than a plague. We are a virus. constantly muting to adapt to our environment and get resistant to every possible threat to us. Annd now that we've entered the space exploration era, we are even capable of saving the specie even if the earth is destroyed.
 

Lolita_Borgia

Official Checked Star Member
I'm not very sure of that...
I mean, we are a very adaptable specie. Nature sended many terrible diseases on (such as the Black Death, the 1918 Flu Pandemic, the Ebola virus, etc...) and we're still alive and our number hasn't even decreased. We may even cure AIDS within a decade. So Idon't think Nature can destroy mankind without destroying itself (or, at least, destropying a huge part of life, as it happened for the extermination of dinosaurs).

Humans are even worst than a plague. We are a virus. constantly muting to adapt to our environment and get resistant to every possible threat to us. Annd now that we've entered the space exploration era, we are even capable of saving the specie even if the earth is destroyed.

The Black Death was caused by humans due to unsanitary living thus an abundance of rats with a nice bacterial flea, & when the rats died they jumped onto the flea ridden humans. The ebola virus also thrives where sanitation & basic hygiene isn't present... another human causation factor. The Spanish Flu of 1918 killed anywhere between 50 - 100 million people world wide, more than WWI & before the international travel that we have available today that can spread these viruses with much more efficiency. If a pandemic flu virus hit this world, right now, there would be a huge impact on our population. Having said all this nature may not exterminate the human plague, some dictator or extremist psycho may just put an end to us & save nature the grief... :2 cents:
 
...yes and Putin calls American parasites. The world keeps spinning.
 
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