'Good guys with a gun' tries to stop bad guys with gun. Makes things worst.

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Armed citizen tries to stop carjacking, shoots victim instead


Authorities in Houston are searching for three men after a carjacking Saturday night – the two suspects who stole the truck and an armed citizen who attempted to intervene but accidentally shot the victim instead of the suspects.

Witnesses said just after 11 p.m., two suspects jumped another man in a gas station parking lot before taking the victim’s Chevy pickup. Another witness saw the carjacking, pulled a gun and opened fire on the suspect. But when the armed citizen realized he had accidentally struck the victim in the head, witnesses said he picked up his spent shell casings and fled the scene.

The victim was transported to a local hospital, where he is in stable condition, and authorities found the stolen truck – abandoned – about a mile from where the carjacking occurred. The suspects, as well as the armed citizen, have not been found.
http://www.guns.com/2015/09/28/armed-citizen-tries-to-stop-carjacking-shoots-victim-instead-video/

He picked-up the evidences of what he had done an run away, not even calling an ambulance to rescue the victim. Classy :clap:

Without that "good guy with a gun" the victim would be totally fine. But because there was a "good guy with a gun" he's now in hospital and will have to spent the rest of his life with the consequences of gunshot wounds to the head.
 
I'll make a deal with you frenchie. Let's arm more people at colleges and schools and after a couple of years let's compare the totals.
 
I'll make a deal with you frenchie. Let's arm more people at colleges and schools and after a couple of years let's compare the totals.
So, basicaly, you wanna use kids as lab-rats, right ?
 

georges

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So, basicaly, you wanna use kids as lab-rats, right ?

Read what he said. Haven't we had not enough violence, racketeering and stabbing attacks in our "oh so well doing" governed by socialists France???
 
Read what he said. Haven't we had not enough violence, racketeering and stabbing attacks in our "oh so well doing" governed by socialists France???

Wether ther socialist or Sarkozy governs France, crime is always on the rise so I don't think you can blame the left for it. Stupid
 

georges

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Wether ther socialist or Sarkozy governs France, crime is always on the rise so I don't think you can blame the left for it. Stupid

Before calling me stupid, make sure that you don't have a half brain and that you have at least a sense of logic, something you absolutely don't. Remember me who is our minister of justice? Christina Taubira . Do you know who is she or are you stupid to ignore her past? She was an independantist and a big antiwhite racist pos.Her son is already in jail for homicide, does this ring a bell for you? She has taken down the minimum sentences against the criminals and bullies that now that type of crowd you love walks free and continues to commit crimes. The left absolished the death penalty in 1981 with Badinter but I bet that you forgot about that. The left is full of shit and especially the French socialists who are fucking stateless, irresponsible and coward douchebags. Even cops in France can't defend themselves, that is why a lot of them commit suicide.
 
is this thread about france now?


or is it still about the fact that the good guy with the gun is more likely to cause more problems, more people getting shot, and very possibly get killed himself

:dunno:
 
Remember me who is our minister of justice? Christina Taubira . Do you know who is she or are you stupid to ignore her past? She was an independantist and a big antiwhite racist pos.Her son is already in jail for homicide, does this ring a bell for you?
Taubira used to be an independantist.
Bin Laden used to be CIA
G. W. Bush used to be alcoholic
Even Clémenceau was a socialist when he was young
People change



She has taken down the minimum sentences against the criminals and bullies that now that type of crowd you love walks free and continues to commit crimes.
And yet, crime does not raises faster than the years before so you can't blame the rise on her policies.

The left absolished the death penalty in 1981 with Badinter but I bet that you forgot about that.
I did not forget that for that is one of the greatest decision ever made by government.

Even cops in France can't defend themselves, that is why a lot of them commit suicide.
This is not true. You just made it up.
Cops commit suicide because their wives went away, because they have too much work, because they did something wrong that's gonna cost them a lot, etc.

PS : I call you stupid because I use to call a spade a spade.
 

georges

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Taubira used to be an independantist. Bin Laden used to be CIA. G. W. Bush used to be alcoholic. Even Clémenceau was a socialist when he was young. People change

And yet, crime does not raises faster than the years before so you can't blame the rise on her policies. I did not forget that for that is one of the greatest decision ever made by government.

This is not true. You just made it up. Cops commit suicide because their wives went away, because they have too much work, because they did something wrong that's gonna cost them a lot, etc.

PS : I call you stupid because I use to call a spade a spade.

Many people blame Taubira for her stupid and insane decisions.You are an absolute stupid socialist and that won't change. Giving criminal second chances is just being weakminded and shows that you just hate your constitution. The death penalty doesn't offer the possibility to the criminal to commit another crime when he is set free after a period a good behavior (typical of the laxist socialist justice). People rarely change, they are generally staying true to their character.This socialist governement's prefrence towards criminals has been shown with Taubira.According the socialist bullshit statistics crime does not raises faster than the years before? Don't think that because you are a sheep and that those statistics are false that other people believe in. Only 23% even less support Hollande and his government including you of course, that is enough to call you a void of realism dummy.
 
Many people blame Taubira for her stupid and insane decisions.
Many people can be wrong. Do I have to rememeber that many people voted for Hollande ?

You are an absolute stupid socialist and that won't change.
I'm a centrist. Center-Left to be more precise.

Giving criminal second chances is just being weakminded and shows that you just hate your constitution.
where is it written in our constitution that criminals do not deserve a second chance ?

The death penalty doesn't offer the possibility to the criminal to commit another crime when he is set free after a period a good behavior (typical of the laxist socialist justice).
Omar Raddad, Patrick Dils : these are just two names of people who would have been executed if we had thedeath penalty, even thought they were innocent. But I guess you're the kind of guy who don't bother killing innocent people, as long as we alos kill real criminals

People rarely change, they are generally staying true to their character.
People change. Only morons like you don't

This socialist governement's prefrence towards criminals has been shown with Taubira.
Nope, it hasn't. Because it only exist in right-wing deranged minds like yours.

According the socialist bullshit statistics crime does not raises faster than the years before?
Not faster than according to the bullshit right-wing statistics.
Don't think that because you are a sheep and that those statistics are false that other people believe in.
So, according to you, Hollande statistics are bullshit but Sarkozy's and Marine Lepen's are true ?
Only 23% even less support Hollande and his government including you of course, that is enough to call you a void of realism dummy.
Sorry to disapoint you but I do not support this govbernment. I think they did some good things, some bad things are and that there are some good things they refused to do, 'cause they are cowards.
But I'm not the kind of persons that would say that everythingt they did is wrong and that everything that goes wrong in the country must be blamed on Hollande, Jospin and Mitterand.
 

georges

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Many people can be wrong. Do I have to rememeber that many people voted for Hollande ? I'm a centrist. Center-Left to be more precise. where is it written in our constitution that criminals do not deserve a second chance ?

Omar Raddad, Patrick Dils : these are just two names of people who would have been executed if we had thedeath penalty, even thought they were innocent. But I guess you're the kind of guy who don't bother killing innocent people, as long as we alos kill real criminals

People change. Only morons like you don't Nope, it hasn't. Because it only exist in right-wing deranged minds like yours.

Not faster than according to the bullshit right-wing statistics. So, according to you, Hollande statistics are bullshit but Sarkozy's and Marine Lepen's are true ?
Sorry to disapoint you but I do not support this govbernment. I think they did some good things, some bad things are and that there are some good things they refused to do, 'cause they are cowards.
But I'm not the kind of persons that would say that everythingt they did is wrong and that everything that goes wrong in the country must be blamed on Hollande, Jospin and Mitterand.

Socialists and their voters are the plague that should be fought by all means. Wrong?? When one takes a decision, he knows what he is doing at a precise moment and he has to take full responsibility of it, especially when he is a high ranking civil servant like a minister unless he is a fucking cluless and worthless douchebag that needs to change of job and a reality check.
Remember me please who your friend Bayrou the fucking ass hole told to vote in 2012? For the socialists, so :stfu:
I know the socialists tactics,which are always to blame the others for their faults.
This is what De Gaulle said about your friends the socialists 6 decades ago : "The leftists rarely have big projects. They make demagoguery and use movements of opinions. The left pulls the top of the society down by an ideal of egalitarianism. That's how we ended up in the abyss in 1940 ... .. The socialist are eternal utopians, out of phase, mentally stateless ... They are always wasting much credit. We never saw them spending the funds effectively ... I do not like the Socialists, because they are not socialists .... Because they are unable to do anything, and also because they are dangerous .... "He was right
Sarkozy and Mme Lepen describe French socialists with very true words and even De Gaulle described socialists being as worse than the plague.I felt safer under Sarkozy than under Hollande.
With Hollande, unemployment has been skyrocketing, debt has been skyrocketing, criminality has been skyrocketing, poverty has been skyrocketing, a lot of foreign investors don't want to invest in France because of big taxes.
The socialists and the voters they represent are stupid and hate the country they are governing, so I have no forgiveness and certainly not very much tolerance for such people.
When a president has 23% of favorable opinions, there is nothing positive to be considered unless one is an absolute idiot to think that Hollande is fabulous. Before calling me a moron, make sure that you have the maturity to use your braincells and check facts according to the reality not according to the socialist propaganda that you support, then we will have a serious discussion.
Our justice system is a laxist one and if you support it that tells me a lot about your values. The place of criminals is behind bars for life or with a bullet in the head. I prefer the American justice system which is the best for criminals unlike ours which is has been turned down to shit by Mrs Taubira that you are fanboying so much.
Hollande, Jospin and Mitterand were douchebags and socialists and they fucked up the country royaly so they deserve all the harsh and justified criticism they get.
 
I'm gonna stop arguing with you, it's useless. You decided that socialist = evil and that everything that's related to them, in any way is evil as well, that they are toblame for everything that goes wrong and never be praised for what goes well. And you paint anyone who doesn't share your extreme opinion as a socialist.
Anyway, I don't give a fuck wether yo uthink I'm a socialist, a centist, a communist a nazi or anything. I Know what I am, I know what my opinions are and I don't give a fuck about what someone like you think of me. Ypou don't know me, I don't know you, you're are not and will never be related to me in any way so why would I give a fuck ?
 
Socialists and their voters are the plague that should be fought by all means. Wrong?? When one takes a decision, he knows what he is doing at a precise moment and he has to take full responsibility of it, especially when he is a high ranking civil servant like a minister unless he is a fucking cluless and worthless douchebag that needs to change of job and a reality check.
Remember me please who your friend Bayrou the fucking ass hole told to vote in 2012? For the socialists, so :stfu:
I know the socialists tactics,which are always to blame the others for their faults.
This is what De Gaulle said about your friends the socialists 6 decades ago : "The leftists rarely have big projects. They make demagoguery and use movements of opinions. The left pulls the top of the society down by an ideal of egalitarianism. That's how we ended up in the abyss in 1940 ... .. The socialist are eternal utopians, out of phase, mentally stateless ... They are always wasting much credit. We never saw them spending the funds effectively ... I do not like the Socialists, because they are not socialists .... Because they are unable to do anything, and also because they are dangerous .... "He was right
Sarkozy and Mme Lepen describe French socialists with very true words and even De Gaulle described socialists being as worse than the plague.I felt safer under Sarkozy than under Hollande.
With Hollande, unemployment has been skyrocketing, debt has been skyrocketing, criminality has been skyrocketing, poverty has been skyrocketing, a lot of foreign investors don't want to invest in France because of big taxes.
The socialists and the voters they represent are stupid and hate the country they are governing, so I have no forgiveness and certainly not very much tolerance for such people.
When a president has 23% of favorable opinions, there is nothing positive to be considered unless one is an absolute idiot to think that Hollande is fabulous. Before calling me a moron, make sure that you have the maturity to use your braincells and check facts according to the reality not according to the socialist propaganda that you support, then we will have a serious discussion.
Our justice system is a laxist one and if you support it that tells me a lot about your values. The place of criminals is behind bars for life or with a bullet in the head. I prefer the American justice system which is the best for criminals unlike ours which is has been turned down to shit by Mrs Taubira that you are fanboying so much.
Hollande, Jospin and Mitterand were douchebags and socialists and they fucked up the country royaly so they deserve all the harsh and justified criticism they get.


2 points - will neo-facist mme lepen by in jail too soon, like you want hilary to be, for inciting racial hatred

and

george, if you love america so much and it's your idea of a perfect country, why don't you emigrate and go and live there?
 
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