okay everyone thanks for all the help and great links but my time here is done for now my girlfriend and I are spitting up after 3 1/2 years she has decided that she doesnt want a future with a ****** no **** and doesnt want to get married so i guess im gonna move out and find a girl that i can have a future with anyhoo if i ever get my own pc ill jump back on but for now i dont have one ill probly be gone within the next couple of weeks depending on how long it takes me to find a house, okay ill be on for a little while longer till i move