Georgia Homeowner Uses ‘Semi-Automatic Rifle’ To Return Fire Against Three Masked Attackers.
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Rey C.
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I read about this the other day. But so far, I haven't had time to find a story with full details. All I knew was, two of the suspects were brothers and they were all teenagers.
My initial reaction was, they got what they deserved. They were wearing masks, they (apparently) shot first and they were trying to rob these people outside of their home. If that's what happened, then so be it. One kid's family was saying what a good boy he was. Uh yeah, well... unless there was a whole lot more going on (like the homeowner planted the weapon on him and put masks on their faces AFTER he shot them), I'm thinking that he wasn't so sweet and innocent afterall. The wages of sin are death. So maybe they should have spent more time in Sunday school and less time trying to live the thug life.
My initial reaction was, they got what they deserved. They were wearing masks, they (apparently) shot first and they were trying to rob these people outside of their home. If that's what happened, then so be it. One kid's family was saying what a good boy he was. Uh yeah, well... unless there was a whole lot more going on (like the homeowner planted the weapon on him and put masks on their faces AFTER he shot them), I'm thinking that he wasn't so sweet and innocent afterall. The wages of sin are death. So maybe they should have spent more time in Sunday school and less time trying to live the thug life.
We all make poor decisions and some do not end well.
meesterperfect
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So if the Branch Davidians were fired on first back in 93 that means they were justified. Too bad the FBI lost the copy of the footage, all 4 of them.
Supafly
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What is your point, George?
We definitely need more sources on this. The linked story says these 3 teens approached this guy and his friend outside their home at 4am and started shooting at them. That's not a home invasion, it's basically a hit and straight up attempted murder.
Unless these kids had some feud with the guy, the story seems suspect.
Unless these kids had some feud with the guy, the story seems suspect.
So, three masked teenagers approach a house, one of them fires with is gun (the article doesn't mention in what direction he shot, could be towards the house, could be in the air, could be anywhere...), the home-owner shot them all with an assault-rifle and authorities call them "attempted-robbery suspects". Even though they did nothing but approach a house a fire God knows where ! The article doesn't mention them trying to robb, kill or even hurt anyone, it doesn't say they try to break-in any house.
As far as we know for now, this wasn't a case of self-defense 'cause no one was under-attack. Nowx, show me gun impacts on that guy's property and that's a all different story. But considering the facts as we know them for now and the fact that Georgias hasn't abolished the death penalty, that guy deserves to be found guilty of 3 first degree murders, sentenced to the death penalty and executed.
As far as we know for now, this wasn't a case of self-defense 'cause no one was under-attack. Nowx, show me gun impacts on that guy's property and that's a all different story. But considering the facts as we know them for now and the fact that Georgias hasn't abolished the death penalty, that guy deserves to be found guilty of 3 first degree murders, sentenced to the death penalty and executed.
Rey C.
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No one was under attack, huh?
No charges filed after gun owner shoots and kills three
The sheriff's office said the three were killed during a shoot-out with the resident on White Oak Court. Investigators say the three teens had their faces covered as they approached the residence and attempted to rob three people in the front yard, Thomas said. One of the attempted-robbery suspects fired shots at the residents before one of the intended robbery victims returned fire.
Two of the teens were siblings and were identified as 16-year-old Isaiah Reid and 15-year-old Jaime Hernandez. The third deceased teen was identified as 16-year-old Brandon Gresham.
One of the youths allegedly pulled out a gun and fired a few shots, prompting one of the residents, reportedly a male truck driver who owns a semi-automatic rifle and is protective of his mother, to return fire and shoot all three. The homeowner called 911 after the shooting.
“The victims of the attempted robbery were all uninjured, but the three attempted robbery suspects were all shot during the exchange of gunfire and succumbed to their injuries, one on scene and two at a local hospital after being transported,” the Rockdale County Sheriff’s Office said in a statement.
Neighbors told the TV station that the homeowner who shot the teens is a truck driver who owns a semi-automatic rifle and is highly protective of his mother.
IMO, the guy deserves a Good Son of the Year and a Bullseye Award for good shootin'. :yesyes: Too many kids grow up these days not respecting other people or their property. They think that livin' that bullshit thug life makes them kewl. At some point, all it'll make you is locked up in a cage like an animal... or as these punks learned (albeit too late), dead. IMO, they should circulate pictures of their lifeless bodies laying in chalk to their little wannabe tough guy classmates, so they don't have to learn that same lesson firsthand.
No one was under attack, huh?
No charges filed after gun owner shoots and kills three
The sheriff's office said the three were killed during a shoot-out with the resident on White Oak Court. Investigators say the three teens had their faces covered as they approached the residence and attempted to rob three people in the front yard, Thomas said. One of the attempted-robbery suspects fired shots at the residents before one of the intended robbery victims returned fire.
Two of the teens were siblings and were identified as 16-year-old Isaiah Reid and 15-year-old Jaime Hernandez. The third deceased teen was identified as 16-year-old Brandon Gresham.
One of the youths allegedly pulled out a gun and fired a few shots, prompting one of the residents, reportedly a male truck driver who owns a semi-automatic rifle and is protective of his mother, to return fire and shoot all three. The homeowner called 911 after the shooting.
“The victims of the attempted robbery were all uninjured, but the three attempted robbery suspects were all shot during the exchange of gunfire and succumbed to their injuries, one on scene and two at a local hospital after being transported,” the Rockdale County Sheriff’s Office said in a statement.
Neighbors told the TV station that the homeowner who shot the teens is a truck driver who owns a semi-automatic rifle and is highly protective of his mother.
IMO, the guy deserves a Good Son of the Year and a Bullseye Award for good shootin'. :yesyes: Too many kids grow up these days not respecting other people or their property. They think that livin' that bullshit thug life makes them kewl. At some point, all it'll make you is locked up in a cage like an animal... or as these punks learned (albeit too late), dead. IMO, they should circulate pictures of their lifeless bodies laying in chalk to their little wannabe tough guy classmates, so they don't have to learn that same lesson firsthand.
Johan doesn't understand the notion of self defense, he is against guns. These wannabe criminals got what they deserved. There is a sign on houses which is a sign that a house is well guarded with written :"Never mind the dog, beware of owner", and young people shouldn't think that just because people are old that they won't enforce and exercise their 2nd amendment. Trespassing and attempting to rob a private property is not something wise to do.
Rey C.
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I just found it interesting how quick he was to defend the "rights" of these punks, making them sound like victims (of something besides their own stupidity). He made it sound like they were just naughty little kids, playing Halloween pranks or something. An old song says, don't go messin' with people who are strange to ya.
In another article, I read how upset some of the kids' relatives were at the homeowner for stretching them out in the dirt. Well, they should be upset... at the parents, for not raising them right and letting them grow up with the idea that it's OK to put on masks, carry guns and try to jack hard working people with JOBS. You know, people who have to go to work and take care of elderly family members aren't in the mood for little thieving bastards, prowling around, trying to rob them in the middle of the night.
meesterperfect
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You're home at night. Its dark out because well I just said its night time.
There's a knock on the door.
"Who is it?", you ask.
"My car broke down, can I use your phone?" a voice responds.
You look out the window and you see this
What do you do?
Ok well maybe that wasn't the best example to illustrate my point.
Home with family. Woman, children, maybe an elderly parent or two.
Knock on door , says their car broke down can they use your phone.
You look out the window but its too dark to see. You have a bad feeling. They start to turn your door knob and began pushing on the door trying to get in.
You call 911 but by now they are really trying to get through that door. They are kicking on it. You hear other voices, he is not alone.
Finally he kicks open the door.
At this point do you wish you had a firearm?
There's a knock on the door.
"Who is it?", you ask.
"My car broke down, can I use your phone?" a voice responds.
You look out the window and you see this
What do you do?
Ok well maybe that wasn't the best example to illustrate my point.
Home with family. Woman, children, maybe an elderly parent or two.
Knock on door , says their car broke down can they use your phone.
You look out the window but its too dark to see. You have a bad feeling. They start to turn your door knob and began pushing on the door trying to get in.
You call 911 but by now they are really trying to get through that door. They are kicking on it. You hear other voices, he is not alone.
Finally he kicks open the door.
At this point do you wish you had a firearm?
No one was under attack, huh?
No charges filed after gun owner shoots and kills three
The sheriff's office said the three were killed during a shoot-out with the resident on White Oak Court. Investigators say the three teens had their faces covered as they approached the residence and attempted to rob three people in the front yard, Thomas said. One of the attempted-robbery suspects fired shots at the residents before one of the intended robbery victims returned fire.
Two of the teens were siblings and were identified as 16-year-old Isaiah Reid and 15-year-old Jaime Hernandez. The third deceased teen was identified as 16-year-old Brandon Gresham.
One of the youths allegedly pulled out a gun and fired a few shots, prompting one of the residents, reportedly a male truck driver who owns a semi-automatic rifle and is protective of his mother, to return fire and shoot all three. The homeowner called 911 after the shooting.
“The victims of the attempted robbery were all uninjured, but the three attempted robbery suspects were all shot during the exchange of gunfire and succumbed to their injuries, one on scene and two at a local hospital after being transported,” the Rockdale County Sheriff’s Office said in a statement.
Neighbors told the TV station that the homeowner who shot the teens is a truck driver who owns a semi-automatic rifle and is highly protective of his mother.
IMO, the guy deserves a Good Son of the Year and a Bullseye Award for good shootin'. :yesyes: Too many kids grow up these days not respecting other people or their property. They think that livin' that bullshit thug life makes them kewl. At some point, all it'll make you is locked up in a cage like an animal... or as these punks learned (albeit too late), dead. IMO, they should circulate pictures of their lifeless bodies laying in chalk to their little wannabe tough guy classmates, so they don't have to learn that same lesson firsthand.
First, if you had read my post, ytou would have noticed that I specifically made it clear that all what I was saying was based on the elements I had at this point. The fact that shots were fired at that guy's house is a new element to me as therefore, completely changes my perception of the case. Knowing that, I wouldn't say that the man should be found guilty, sentencend and executed.
Now, I wouldn't say they got what they deserved but I wouldn't shed a tears for them either. They played with fire, they got burned, sad for them but I won't blame the shooter.
I don't how things are in the states or anywhere but where I live, burglars avoid houses when there's someone inside. They make sur there's no oner iside, they target houses when they know people are away
Rey C.
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Google "home invasions" and you'll get your answer.
Yes, the typical burglar is generally going to avoid an occupied home - the same with porch pirates, who follow delivery trucks around and steal items off porches after they're delivered (which is apparently a growing problem in the U.S. - my girlfriend was a victim of one a few weeks ago). Thieves would of course rather avoid a confrontation and have more time to steal what they want to steal. But some are the more violent type and don't care if you're home or not. I mean, it's not like these people have some sort of rulebook that they're obliged to follow.
One of the very saddest stories that I'm aware of was a gentleman whose house was being broken into by a deranged individual. The local news station played the 911 tape and it was so sad. The man eventually gave his wife the phone and told the dispatcher that he was going to get his shotgun because the intruder was trying to break the sliding glass door. The wife was terrified as she spoke. You could hear the man screaming and pleading with the intruder to stop hitting the door with the deck chair. You could hear the chair hitting the glass. The homeowner told the man he had a gun and he'd use it if he broke into the house. The banging continued and then you heard the glass break. Then you heard a loud boom. A single 12 gauge blast to the chest ended the confrontation. The cops showed up 10 or 15 minutes later. And while the man didn't have a gun, the homeowner was perfectly within his rights to do what he did. Just as with the case in the OP, no charges were filed. But in a follow-up interview, you could tell that the homeowner and his wife were broken individuals. That man had NO desire to take a human life. And he and his wife will probably never be the same again.
I haven't seen any interviews posted about the Georgia homeowner... probably never will. But despite those who advocate for the "right" of criminals to terrorize hard working people, he had every right to defend his property and his mother. My concern is for him and his family, and my hope is that he can find peace. The kids' families... you raised bad kids and now they're dead. Sad situation, but that's on you.
Yes, the typical burglar is generally going to avoid an occupied home - the same with porch pirates, who follow delivery trucks around and steal items off porches after they're delivered (which is apparently a growing problem in the U.S. - my girlfriend was a victim of one a few weeks ago). Thieves would of course rather avoid a confrontation and have more time to steal what they want to steal. But some are the more violent type and don't care if you're home or not. I mean, it's not like these people have some sort of rulebook that they're obliged to follow.
One of the very saddest stories that I'm aware of was a gentleman whose house was being broken into by a deranged individual. The local news station played the 911 tape and it was so sad. The man eventually gave his wife the phone and told the dispatcher that he was going to get his shotgun because the intruder was trying to break the sliding glass door. The wife was terrified as she spoke. You could hear the man screaming and pleading with the intruder to stop hitting the door with the deck chair. You could hear the chair hitting the glass. The homeowner told the man he had a gun and he'd use it if he broke into the house. The banging continued and then you heard the glass break. Then you heard a loud boom. A single 12 gauge blast to the chest ended the confrontation. The cops showed up 10 or 15 minutes later. And while the man didn't have a gun, the homeowner was perfectly within his rights to do what he did. Just as with the case in the OP, no charges were filed. But in a follow-up interview, you could tell that the homeowner and his wife were broken individuals. That man had NO desire to take a human life. And he and his wife will probably never be the same again.
I haven't seen any interviews posted about the Georgia homeowner... probably never will. But despite those who advocate for the "right" of criminals to terrorize hard working people, he had every right to defend his property and his mother. My concern is for him and his family, and my hope is that he can find peace. The kids' families... you raised bad kids and now they're dead. Sad situation, but that's on you.
Rey C.
Racing is life... anything else is just waiting.
I read your post. I also read the article in the OP. If you'd read it more carefully, you'd have seen this tidbit:
While the details were not as complete as what came out later, the basics were still there. Hell, the very title of the news piece gave the basic details! But according to your post, you wanted to see proof of where the rounds hit. And without that proof, you wanted the guy convicted of murder and executed. You apparently believe that as long as you just shoot near someone, and not directly at them, it's OK to cover your face with a mask and attempt to rob people? IMO, you were way to quick on the trigger (pun intended) to make these thugs into victims.
Quick to defend these thugs ? No
Quick t oattack an assault-rifle owner ? Probably, I have to admit
Me ? certainly not. Considering the datas I have now and the Law, that guy had the right to defend himself, his possessions, his loved ones. And, as I've said, these kids played with fire and got burned, I'm not gonna shed a tear on them.
Quick t oattack an assault-rifle owner ? Probably, I have to admit
Who's "advocating for the right of criminals to terrorize hard working people" ?Rey C. said:
Me ? certainly not. Considering the datas I have now and the Law, that guy had the right to defend himself, his possessions, his loved ones. And, as I've said, these kids played with fire and got burned, I'm not gonna shed a tear on them.
meesterperfect
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Are you shitting me?
(Shitting Me is a phrase which is used by someone to another person in response to something that person said in which the listener can not comprehend whether or not what he heard was said to him/her in a serious nature or in a sarcastic nature because what was said was so ridiculous that it made no sense at all).
Johan, everybody should have the right to defend themselves and others from violence and danger.
I'm sure that if you were suddenly faced with a life threatening situation that you could use your superior intellect to talk your way out of it no problem , but most of us just don't have that gift that our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ gave to you...........so instead we need guns.
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