Dutch government revokes landing rights for Turkish politician.

[Boothbabe]

As most of you are probably aware there's a very important referendum on it's way in Turkey. It's about whether or not to abandon the parliamentary system and introduce a presidential system which will grant Erdogan enormous power. Turkish politicians wanted to hold political rallies in Germany and The Netherlands to convince the Turks living there to vote yes in the referendum. Turkey in on a fast track to becoming a full fledged dictatorship and should Erdogan win he has the power to take over Turkey in its entirety and crush any form of opposition. My government (and Germany's government) isn't too keen on helping Erdogan to achieve this so they already cancelled a few public rallies. My government was in talks with Turkish politicians to resolve the issue but than the Turkish foreign minister threatened with severe sanctions and they called the Dutch government Nazi's and fascists (same with the German government). That was the last straw and Mark Rutte, the Dutch PM, revoked their landing rights. Imo it was the only right decision. Erdogan is behaving like a power hungry psycho and he attacks anyone who dares to criticize him. I just hope that Germany and the rest of the EU will follow the example set by my government in sending a clear message to Erdogan that we will not support the formation of a dictatorship in Turkey.

https://www.dailysabah.com/diplomac...ission-for-turkish-foreign-minister-cavusoglu
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-39242707

 

[h00t3rl0v3r]

Erdogan is a danger for Turkey, Europe and actually all others...

 

[Jack Davenport]

Turkey is essentially an Islamic state. 98 percent are Muslim. Dictatorship is what Muslims understand. Their secular version of Islam is only tolerated for so long. It is a natural progression.

 

[Boothbabe]

Turkey is essentially an Islamic state. 98 percent are Muslim. Dictatorship is what Muslims understand. Their secular version of Islam is only tolerated for so long. It is a natural progression.

It's not that black and white. A large number of Turks living in Turkey actually don't support Erdogan and the proposed changes to the constitution. If Erdogan wins it will be because Turks living in other countries (a lot of them are 2nd or 3rd generation migrants) voted yes. You see the same thing with Moroccans, a lot of Moroccans living Morocco are modern and forward looking but the ones in The Netherlands are living in the past and are often radicalised.

 

[Supafly]

It REALLY isn't as easy as BC paints it. A lot of turkish/german citizens are for Erdogan, but another part sees him as the danger that he is to Turkey and the whole region.

Turkey wwas set on a good path towards a secular country by Atatürk, sadly Erdogan turns it all around.

 

[Jack Davenport]

He's already a dictator. He staged a coup d'etat.

 

[Johan]

Turkey wwas set on a good path towards a secular country by Atatürk, sadly Erdogan turns it all around.

True. Demirel and then Sezer made good job. Turkey was often cited as the most secular muslim country.

I can't believe the fact that Erdogan's election happened during the crisis that lead to the Iraq War was a coincidence...

 

[Boothbabe]

Things are not going well. There are about a 1000 Turks demonstrating and shouting Allahu Akbar. Apparently a military unit has been sent in to keep things from escalating. I've also read that the Turkish Minister of Family Affairs has been declared Persona Non Grata and that she's been sent back to Germany. I don't know if it's true though. The only one to blame for this mess is Erdogan. No means no, what's so hard to understand about that? He doesn't get to meddle in the interior affairs of the Dutch people. The Dutch government decides what foreign politicians can and cannot do here, not him. And I do applaud my government for not bowing to his whims. It's about time someone made a clear statement towards Erdogan.

 

[Boothbabe]

It has been confirmed by several news outlets that the Turkish Minister of Family Affairs has been escorted out of the country. I'm also not sure what to think about this mess. One the one hand I think it's not a good idea to let Turkish politicians campaign in other countries for what essentially amounts to the formation of a dictatorship. On the other hand I wonder if the Dutch government would have reacted the same way if there wasn't an election a couple of days from now.