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Do as I say, not as I do

With open eyes and an open heart I joined the Catholic Church just a few years ago at the ripe old age of 43. I love my Church and I love Pope Francis and my trip to the Vatican last year was a highlight of my life. Being blessed by Francis in St. Peter’s Square is something I will never forget.

I should also add that one of the things I love about the Catholic Church is our disagreements. The last thing I want to do is sit in a Church that doesn’t spiritually or politically challenge me.

Nevertheless, until I learned this morning that Francis visited with the Little Sisters of the Poor, the nuns suing the Obama administration for relief from the persecution of a law (ObamaCare) that forces Catholics to violate their conscience, I was beyond frustrated with this Pope.

As our own government gives hundreds of millions of dollars to Planned Parenthood, an organization that butchers millions of innocent babies and sells off their body parts, the Pope ignoring that issue (and I hope the Holy Father will eventually address it) in favor of the unicorn of Global Warming is an abomination.

And when I live in a country where the poor have air conditioning and cable bills and iPhones and an obesity problem, with all due respect, the Pope’s attacks on capitalism are anti-science. Nothing has done more to lift the poor out of true poverty than free enterprise. If you want to see where true poverty still exists, visit a socialist country — any country where the government has “solved” wealth inequality.

And then there’s the issue of immigration.


Pope Francis urged Catholic bishops in the United States to open their doors to immigrants, asserting that “these people will enrich America and its Church.”

As a Latin American, the Pope apologized for “pleading my own case,” when speaking about the influx of Hispanic immigrants into the United States. He also thanked the bishops for the work they have done for immigrants in this country. …

“Perhaps you will be challenged by their diversity,” he said. “But know that they also possess resources meant to be shared. So do not be afraid to welcome them.”

The Pope also urged the bishops to offer immigrants “the warmth of the love of Christ.”

Again, I mean no disrespect but this is coming from a man who lives in a city-state completely surrounded, literally, by giant walls. Vatican City is a literal fortress.

What would happen to Vatican City if it was to do what Francis is asking America to do?

I’m assuming Pope Francis could order such a thing tomorrow, and after the walls came down he could also choose to greet the wave of “pilgrims” with the “warmth of the love of Christ.”

Of course Pope Francis would never do such a thing because he knows what would happen: Vatican City would be no more, everyone’s security and well-being would be compromised, and the standard of living for close to a thousand residents would be destroyed. Chaos would completely destroy the home of St. Peter.

http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2015/09/24/pope-francis-tear-down-the-vatican-wall/



And what is the Vatican's (a state unto itself) immigration policy?

Pope Francis is more than head of the Catholic Church — he’s also the head of state of the Vatican, which as a government has possibly the most restrictive immigration and citizenship policies of any nation in the world.



“Thousands of persons are led to travel north in search of a better life for themselves and for their loved ones, in search of greater opportunities. Is this not what we want for our own children?” he said. “We need to avoid a common temptation nowadays: to discard whatever proves troublesome. Let us remember the Golden Rule: ‘Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.’”


Sophie Cruz, a five-year-old U.S. citizen whose parents are illegal immigrants from Mexico, broke through the tight security around the pope during a parade on the National Mall on Wednesday to hand him a letter begging him to pressure Congress and the White House to take steps to grant her parents legal status.

The pontiff didn’t mention illegal immigration during his speech Thursday, but did refer to the large numbers of people coming from Latin America. Advocacy groups cheered his words, saying his call for unity and acceptance should temper some of the harsh rhetoric that’s flared recently.



“At this moment, with many political candidates and elected officials fanning the flames of intolerance and divisiveness, let us hope that our leaders take the Holy Father’s powerful message to heart,” said Frank Sharry, executive director of America’s Voice.

But lawmakers doubted his words would break the legislative stalemate in Congress.

Sen. Ted Cruz, Texas Republican, said he took the pope’s call for compassion to be a celebration of legal immigration — and said he welcomed that.

Rep. Michael Burgess, Texas Republican, said the U.S. is already doing its part to heed calls for compassion.

“The thing that always strikes me when we get into these discussions is the United States takes in more people every year legally than the rest of the world combined,” he said. “You start from that premise — it was 1.7 million last year, you want to add another 400,000 to 600,000 that came in without the benefit of doing it the right way. What is the right number? If over 2 million is not enough, would someone please tell me what that right number is, and would other countries act accordingly.”

The Vatican, for its part, welcomes millions of visitors a year — but allows only a very select few, who meet strict criteria, to be admitted as residents or citizens.

Only about 450 of its 800 or so residents actually hold citizenship, according to a 2012 study by the Library of Congress. That study said citizens are either church cardinals who reside in the Vatican, the Holy See’s diplomats around the world, and those who have to reside in the city because of their jobs, such as the Swiss Guard.

Spouses and children who live in the city because of their relationship with citizens — including the Swiss Guard and workers such as the gardener — have also been granted citizenship. But that means few of the Vatican’s citizens are women.

A Vatican spokesman did not return an email seeking comment on its policy.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/sep/24/pope-call-immigration-unlikely-change-debate/

So far the Vatican has taken in 2 Syrian refugee families. They should do more.
 

Supafly

Retired Mod
Bronze Member
I started a similar conversation elsewhere. I also went on and shared the info about the bishops and other high ranking personnel of the catholic and of the evangelic-lutherian churches. Example: Bishops get a monthly pay of 11.000 Euros. Thing is, they are paid by the state, not from the church tax (Our country does the financial work for the churches).

So why don't they all take in 5 families (both refugees and other needy ones)? They sure have the cash? They could use some of the pompous church facilities for housing.

And the Vatican State - they really don't walk their walk regarding what they talk about.
 
"They will bring with them the principles of the governments they leave, imbibed in their early youth; or, if able to throw them off, it will be in exchange for an un- bounded licentiousness, passing, as is usual, from one extreme to another. It would be a miracle were they to stop precisely at the point of temperate liberty. These principles, with their language, they will transmit to their children. In pro- portion to their numbers, they will share with us the legislation. They will infuse into it their spirit, warp and bias its directions, and render it a heterogeneous, in- coherent, distracted mass."

Thomas Jefferson was a god damned American prophet!
 

BlkHawk

Closed Account
Sure the Pope is a hypocrite, Matthew 12:1-8
1At that time Jesus went through the grainfields on the Sabbath. His disciples were hungry, and they began to pluck heads of grain and to eat. 2But when the Pharisees saw it, they said to him, “Look, your disciples are doing what is not lawful to do on the Sabbath.” 3He said to them, “Have you not read what David did when he was hungry, and those who were with him: 4how he entered the house of God and ate the bread of the Presence, which it was not lawful for him to eat nor for those who were with him, but only for the priests? 5Or have you not read in the Law how on the Sabbath the priests in the temple profane the Sabbath and are guiltless? 6I tell you, something greater than the temple is here. 7And if you had known what this means, ‘I desire mercy, and not sacrifice,’ you would not have condemned the guiltless. 8For the Son of Man is lord of the Sabbath.”

See what the Pope would do if anyone tried verse 3-4 in Vatican City.

Of course what would most Christians do if someone led a group of hungry people into their fields and started eating without paying for it? Back when I called myself Christian I would have called the cops, and had them arrested for trespassing, and theft if I found them in my cornfield. Now most people just want to build a wall to keep out the poor and hungry.

Hypocrisy is grand! :) Don't mean to be insulting to anyone, I have just always found it funny how people only embrace their beliefs when they are convenient. In case anyone is wondering what I am doing for the immigrant/refugee crisis: not a damn thing. I just volunteer locally, but at least I don't claim to follow the teachings of Christ. I freely admit I am a selfish ass.
 
We are not obligated to accept immigrants at our peril. As Jefferson said, the number 1 consideration in immigration is the welfare of the host country. We've been taken our share, there was a period of over 50 years that we didn't take any except under special circumstances. There comes a point that non assimilation affects our culture and it is starting to happen. "Changing demographics" is code for multiculturalism intended to expand a voter base and the ultimate goal is one party rule. Some have been so bold as to boast and rub our noses in the "changing demographics". It could only happen by careless immigration geared to change the makeup of this country . This would not have happened without policy and purposeful non enforcement of our laws. There is a nationalist movement taking hold in the US now and it is a strong one. We are going to build a wall, deport plenty and ratchet down those that emigrate here. Any of you bleeding hearts that want to help the poor and those wanting to be here for a better life then open the doors of your home and your wallet to them. This Pope can start by allowing them to come to Vatican City and opening the coffers of wealth of the Catholic church to the needy and starting a Papal food stamp program with their wealth. But don't bring your Argentine Papal ass to this country that has given so much to so many in the form of money and lives and tell us we need to do more. Enjoy your stay Holy Father, and when you leave, don't let the door hit you in your ass.
 

BlkHawk

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There is a nationalist movement taking hold in the US now and it is a strong one. We are going to build a wall, deport plenty and ratchet down those that emigrate here.

Well thankfully history has shown how benign nationalist movements are.
 
Well thankfully history has shown how benign nationalist movements are.
The American Revolution was pure evil wasn't it.
John Boehner is the first casualty of this movement. More like a revolt that presents itself in November of 2016.
 
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