College students aren't learning anything

[Straight Shooter]

I'm a junior in college and I can honestly say I haven't learned anything that I didn't already know. I've just finished all my general education courses so I guess that's part of the reason but overall this finding doesn't surprise me
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110118/ap_on_re_us/us_college_learning

 

[busaguy79]

Not really surprising, they are raising tuition to the point that every good looking girl in college will have to strip or do porn (not a bad thing!) just to get enough money to pay for each semester of school! The whole college system is becoming a con and the only people that are benifitting are the deans and presidents of these colleges making millions a year!

 

[Bearded_Menace]

Not really surprising, they are raising tuition to the point that every good looking girl in college will have to strip or do porn (not a bad thing!) just to get enough money to pay for each semester of school! The whole college system is becoming a con and the only people that are benifitting are the deans and presidents of these colleges making millions a year!

Lets not forget the Alumni who can usually be found pulling the strings behind the scenes. This is especially true if you have a sports program that is any where near decent.

 

[ApolloBalboa]

When I worked at a gym, I used to talk to this older guy (about 40's to 50's) from Brazil, I believe, or some country bordering that. He used to tell me about how school (including college) is free to dirt cheap down there, and how what would normally be his kid's college fund was instead a fund so his son could buy a house and start a family without having to worry about paying to learn. Funny how we seem to have things somewhat backwards here. I went to school for a year then dropped out to get a job to support myself. Sure, I may not make as much as I would with a degree, but 1. I won't end up in crushing debt once I finish school, and 2. a degree is worth little to nothing nowadays in this economy.

 

[Bloodshot Scott]

They're tossing diplomas at kids nowadays. Any mokey can walk into a 100 level class and snooze through it and literally get an A.

When I worked at a gym, I used to talk to this older guy (about 40's to 50's) from Brazil, I believe, or some country bordering that. He used to tell me about how school (including college) is free to dirt cheap down there, and how what would normally be his kid's college fund was instead a fund so his son could buy a house and start a family without having to worry about paying to learn. Funny how we seem to have things somewhat backwards here. I went to school for a year then dropped out to get a job to support myself. Sure, I may not make as much as I would with a degree, but 1. I won't end up in crushing debt once I finish school, and 2. a degree is worth little to nothing nowadays in this economy.

If you play the system right you can figure things out. They raped my youngest sister for a degree she will likely never need, but i was, ahem, smarter. (Pell, if you catch my drift).

Honestly, trade school really is where it is at right now. Get an apprentice and learn how to actually build something; I can't stress this enough. My friend is a foreman and their crew can literally all take turns building each other's houses.

His old boss pretty much got the whole crew to build his beautiful house. I don't know what he paid the crew, but that house is worth at least 400 stacks.

 

[gunslingingbird]

Bullshit! I learned how to subsist on peanut butter and beer in college. I also learned that my absolute Jack Daniel's limit is half a Costco-sized bottle, or 1.8 liters, in one night. I learned a few other things as well, but I don't remember most of them.

 

[ApolloBalboa]

They're tossing diplomas at kids nowadays. Any mokey can walk into a 100 level class and snooze through it and literally get an A.



If you play the system right you can figure things out. They raped my youngest sister for a degree she will likely never need, but i was, ahem, smarter. (Pell, if you catch my drift).

Honestly, trade school really is where it is at right now. Get an apprentice and learn how to actually build something; I can't stress this enough. My friend is a foreman and their crew can literally all take turns building each other's houses.

His old boss pretty much got the whole crew to build his beautiful house. I don't know what he paid the crew, but that house is worth at least 400 stacks.

Yep, pretty much. College is now essentially "if you can pay to be here, you get a degree". I just work doing some menial part-time stuff half the time and the rest as a personal trainer. I make a relatively good amount and would like to possibly learn a trade once I have some more money saved or am living with someone else that's working so I can afford to restructure my schedule some. And all this is on a high school diploma. Eat it, Harvard.

Bullshit! I learned how to subsist on peanut butter and beer in college. I also learned that my absolute Jack Daniel's limit is half a Costco-sized bottle, or 1.8 liters, in one night. I learned a few other things as well, but I don't remember most of them.

May I ask what your major was? Perhaps in economics? :tongue:

 

[domshooter]

well i think the GE classes are pretty much BS. i mean i went to grammar school and high school for that.

my degree classes are where ive learned the most. im taking criminology, so ive gained a wealth of knowledge so far

 

[gunslingingbird]

May I ask what your major was? Perhaps in economics? :tongue:

Classical guitar performance. :tongue:

im taking criminology, so ive gained a wealth of knowledge so far

Where? CCSF? :1orglaugh

 

[YumiYumi_1988]

Well it should get a little tougher as an upperclassman. But I've found that I can get A's without putting my best effort out there. Honestly, I don't see how people can actually consistently get C's. They must really be blowing school off, skipping classes, and partying.

 

[Facetious]

Re: College students aren't learning anything
It's well documented in the Congressional Record . . .

Communist Goals (1963)

Documention below

Congressional Record--Appendix, pp. A34-A35

January 10, 1963

Current Communist Goals

EXTENSION OF REMARKS OF HON. A. S. HERLONG, JR. OF FLORIDA * <- Democrat

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

Thursday, January 10, 1963


17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.

18. Gain control of all student newspapers.

19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.

...


Does it mean anything? probably not if you're an ardent supporter of the political party that has the most in common with socialism/ communism. Conspiracy!, right?

45 Goals of Communism in America


It sure looks like we've been had alright!

 

[busenbust]

If we never remove ineffective teachers then nothing will change / Ditto UK education -- the amount of fucking incompetent 'teachers' is amazing/ they will pass anyone as a teacher now -- : put an X here / congrats ! u are now a fucking shit teacher ! Fuck me !

 

[maildude]

You gotta figure that some of the problem is a revolving door deal. The colleges are pressured to move kids through to make room for other students. I know that student housing and financial aid are issues.

 

[shayd]

This should surprise no one. Education hasn't been a priority for colleges for almost a decade.

 

[Bloodshot Scott]

Re: College students aren't learning anything
It's well documented in the Congressional Record . . .


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Does it mean anything? probably not if you're an ardent supporter of the political party that has the most in common with socialism/ communism. Conspiracy!, right?

45 Goals of Communism in America


It sure looks like we've been had alright!

I like what Governor of New Jersey, Chris Christie just proposed; as you may know, he's had run-ins with teachers unions out that way because they didn't want to give up all those lovely six-figure salaries some of them were getting. I'm all for the middle class, but do they need a six-figure salary?

Anyhow, he proposed recently a merit-based system:

CHRISTIE: I don't mind guaranteeing a good teacher job for life. I want that teacher to be teaching for the rest of his or her life, because they're doing great work to prepare our kids for the future and they're the foundation of our country in the future and of my state. But we should have the ability to get rid of bad teachers. And we don't have that ability right now because of the tenure system. So what I've said is let's eliminate teacher tenure. Let's have people have contracts for a length of time, five years perhaps.

GIGOT: For individual teachers, not just all teachers collectively?

CHRISTIE: Yes, sir.

GIGOT: But individual teachers sign a five-year contract that says we'll evaluate you at the end of that five years and then decide what to do.

CHRISTIE: Yes.

GIGOT: Up or out?

CHRISTIE: Yes.

GIGOT: That can't be something going down very well with the unions who have been used to this lifetime job tenure.

CHRISTIE: I'm sure it's not, but you know what? The good teachers in New Jersey won't mind, because they'll know that -- they know they're good and they know that they're a valuable commodity.

Listen, I love public school teachers. I really do. And I think they do extraordinary work. But the bottom line is the good ones need to be rewarded and paid more, and we have to get rid of the bad ones.

If you guys go to a university, get into something like engineering or science or even math. The liberal arts degrees add up to toilet paper today, unfortunately (as I understand). Of course, if history or political science are your passion, knock yourself out. Don't ever do something you would hate to do for life. Also, don't bother with law school unless you want to work 80 hour weeks for average pay. 2 cents.

 

[Supafly]

I think you do not see the full picture. Herlong tried to kill a bill and in order to do that, he put in some shit that other democrats would shy off, like:

...

Next day the Rains bill itself came up for consideration, and Charlie Halleck used every trick in his bag to kill it. A crafty amendment to outlaw racial discrimination in public housing rentals put Democratic liberals in a sweat: a vote for civil rights in this case would mean certain death for the entire bill, since almost every Southerner would feel obliged to desert to the Halleck forces. But Rayburn cracked down—and the liberal Democrats, led by the House's four Negro members (New York's Adam Clayton Powell, Detroit's Charles Diggs Jr., Chicago's William Dawson and Philadelphia's Robert N. C. Nix), were placed in the embarrassing position of voting against civil rights. That saved the Rains bill. It passed 261 to 160.

Read more: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,811104-2,00.html#ixzz1BTeAZ02Z

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,811104-1,00.html

So, you see, he used all these crazy points to make the other senate members to NOT vote for the complete bill.

Please, guys, before you scream murder and socialism, do some research.

 

[ndania]

so true

 

[domshooter]

Classical guitar performance. :tongue:


Where? CCSF? :1orglaugh

yes actually. is there something wrong with that?

 

[mrtrebus]

Stay off this forum & start studying then you deviant.

 

[georges]

today teachers are pretty mediocre compared to their predecessors.